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Nellie Nolan and Edwin round

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Sandra

Sandra Report 12 Jun 2018 19:55

Thank you Shirley and Austin for the info ,I am going to read though it all now and hopefully I am on the right family .just got to check if Edwin Thomas and Thomas Edwin is the same person .....regards Sandra

AustinQ

AustinQ Report 13 Jun 2018 09:41

As posted earlier- posting again for my reference:

1939, date of birth 31st March 1900:

77 Aberconway Crescent , Doncaster R.D., Yorkshire (West Riding), England

Nellie Round 09 Oct 1907 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married 150 2
Edwin T Round 31 Mar 1900 Male Colliery Stone Miner Below Heavy Worker Married 150 1
Sorry, this record is officially closed. Check if you can open a closed record.
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School record for same person- same birth date, father, David: (also listed are siblings, David 1902, William 1903, & Benjamin 1905

name(s) Edward Thos Round
Birth date 31 Mar 1900
Event year 1912
School name Sedgefield Way Junior Mixed Infants (National) School
Town Mexborough
County Yorkshire
Parent name(s) David
Book type Admissions
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Father David on his marriage:

Marriage:

Name: Nellie Roscoe (age 21, of 8 Featherstone Square)
Event Type: Marriage
Marriage Date: 8 Jan 1923
Marriage Place: Pontefract, St Giles and St Mary, West Yorkshire, England
Father: John Roscoe (Miner)
Spouse: Thomas Edward Rounds (age 22, Soldier)
Spouse father: David Rounds (Pensioner)

Witnesses: Charles Healy & Clara Frances Woodward



AustinQ

AustinQ Report 13 Jun 2018 10:15

Based on birth- possible marriage of parents:

First name(s) David Round
Age 22
Marriage date 17 Apr 1899
Marriage place South Kirkby
Father's name(s) Henry Round
Spouse's name(s) Eliza Jones
Spouse's birth date 1879
Spouse's father's name(s) EdwardJones
Residence South Kirkby, York, England
County Yorkshire
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Birth of possible children based on school record:

ROUND, THOMAS EDWIN (mmn: JONES)
GRO Reference: 1900 J Quarter in CHESTERFIELD Volume 07B Page 788

Baptism:
name(s) Thomas Edwin Round
Baptism date 09 May 1900
Baptism place Sutton cum Duckmanton, Sutton cum Duckmanton, Derbyshire,
Father's name(s) David Round
Mother's name(s) Eliza Round
Place Sutton cum Duckmanton
County Derbyshire
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ROUND, DAVID (mmn: JONES )
GRO Reference: 1901 S Quarter in HEMSWORTH Volume 09C Page 193

Baptism:
name(s) David Round
Gender Male
Baptism date 08 Aug 1901
Residence South Kirkby, York, England
County Yorkshire
Father's name(s) David Round
Mother's first name(s) Eliza
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ROUND, WILLIAM (mmn: JONES )
GRO Reference: 1902 D Quarter in CHESTERFIELD Volume 07B Page 808

Baptism:
name(s) William Round
Baptism date 17 Dec 1902
Baptism place Sutton cum Duckmanton, Sutton cum Duckmanton, Derbyshire,
Father's name(s) David Round
Mother's name(s) Eliza Round
Place Sutton cum Duckmanton
County Derbyshire
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ROUND, BENJAMIN (mmn: JONES )
GRO Reference: 1905 S Quarter in ROTHERHAM Volume 09C Page 727
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ROUND, DAISY (mmn: JONES )
GRO Reference: 1908 M Quarter in CHESTERFIELD Volume 07B Page 795

Baptism:
name(s) Daisy Round
Baptism date 19 Apr 1908
Baptism place Clay Cross, Clay Cross, Derbyshire, England
Father's name(s) David Round
Mother's name(s) Eliza Round
Place Clay Cross
County Derbyshire
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I have a feeling this is the same family:

Derbyshire Courier 11 October 1913

Unnatural Parent:
Chesterfield Man's wanton conduct

The remarkable conduct of a man names David Round was commented upon at the Chesterfield County Police Court on Saturday when he was charged with running away and leaving his three children, whereby they became chargeable to the the Chesterfield Union.
Ald C P Markham said the defendant had ill treated his wife to such an extent that she had committed suicide, and now he was leaving his children. Defendant was ordered to pay £3 8s the amount the upkeep of his children had cost the Guardians or go to Derby for one month.

AustinQ

AustinQ Report 13 Jun 2018 10:28

Looks like David may have married again:

Marriage:
name(s) David Round (widow)
Age 36
Birth year 1877
Residence Mexborough
Marriage date 24 Feb 1913
Marriage place Mexborough
Spouse's name(s) Mary Eckermann
Spouse's age 47
Spouse's residence Mexborough
Father's name(s) Henry Round
Spouse's father's name(s) Thomas Eckermann
County Yorkshire (West Riding)
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Yes- he did marry again:

Sheffield Evening Telegraph 04 October 1913

INCURABLY LAZY
The man who married again

David Round a former Shirebrook collier had his character ruthlessly exposed at the Chesterfield County Police Court today. He was charged, that while living at Old Road, Whittington, he ran away and deserted his three children, who became, and still are, chargeable to the Chesterfield Union. Prisoner was arrested at Oldbury Worcester.
Inspector Nuttall stated that while Round lived at Shirebrook he was incurably lazy and, his wife, in desperation, committed suicide by throwing herself under a train.

The Chairman (Mr C P Markham): His wife committed suicide and he deserted his children?

Deputy Chief Constable Faulkner: And got married again.

Prisoner: I wish you;d give me a chance, as I only got married again lately.

"Unless you pay £3 8s that is owing" pronounced the chairman "you'll go to Derby for three months.

AustinQ

AustinQ Report 13 Jun 2018 11:18

His wife's death:

Sheffield Daily Telegraph 23 January 1911

SHE HAD BEHAVED LIKE A MAD WOMAN

There were several curious points raised at the inquest a Shirebrook on Saturday on a woman whose dead body was found terribly mutilated on the Midland Railway near Shirebrook Bridge.
David Round of 12 Welbeck terrace, the widower was asked by the Coroner (Dr A Green)- What was your wife's full name. 'I do not know to hand' was the extraordinary reply...'Have you no idea what it is?'
Round: Eliza Ann I expect sir...
Witness stated that his wife whose age was 33 had suffered in health of late. She had been weak and of low spirited.
The Coroner: What was the cause of it?
Round: Poverty sir, He added that he had done what he could for her and the five children but he had been out of work for several week....

-It's a lengthy article, but the jury returned an open verdict.