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Maddie

Maddie Report 4 May 2018 15:55

thank you. I think she must have died before 1785 as she is
not mentioned in her fathers will

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 4 May 2018 15:02

The sister's baptism from FMP - with birth date

First name(s) Ann Smith
Last name Renshaw
Birth year 1775
Birth date 26 Dec 1775
Baptism year 1776
Baptism date 13 Mar 1776
Relationship Daughter Of
Father's first name(s) John
Father's last name -
Mother's first name(s) Hester
Mother's last name -
Place Minster in Sheppey

Maddie

Maddie Report 4 May 2018 13:25

thank you for the baptism - on her death bed
found roberts 1st marriage
trying to find his death but being a mariner could be any where :-)

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 4 May 2018 12:56

Robert's first marriage, I would suggest. He is a Mariner .

Name: Robert Wheeler
Gender: Male
Birth Date: abt 1775
Allegation Date: 23 May 1796
Allegation Place: Holy Rood, Southampton, Hampshire, England
Age: 21
Residence: West Cowes, England
Spouse: Ann Brown
Spouse Gender: Female
Spouse Age: 21
Spouse Residence: Holy Rood, Southampton
Volume: Hampshire Allegations for Marriage Licences Vol 2

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 4 May 2018 12:24

Record set Index To Death Duty Registers 1796-1903
First name(s) Mary S
Last name Wheeler
Death year 1839
County Hampshire
Court Pcc and Country Courts
Residence SOUTHAMPTON
National Archives reference IR27/251
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Wills & probate
Collections from Great Britain, England

Executor: Thomas Baines

The fact that her husband wasn't an executor suggests that he pre-deceased her

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 4 May 2018 12:21

She was baptised just before her death

First name(s) Mary Smith
Last name Wheeler
Gender Female
Birth year -
Birth place -
Baptism year 1839
Baptism date 11 Mar 1839
Baptism age 64y
Residence Millbrook, Hampshire, England
Place Millbrook
County Hampshire
Country England

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 4 May 2018 12:19

The person who registered the 1839 death may be a relative

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 4 May 2018 12:15

Smith is the woman's surname in that marriage

Your Mary was a Renshaw

Maddie

Maddie Report 4 May 2018 11:40

thank you all for your imput
Mary Smith may be ann smith but that is just conjecture
Whether she had children who knows as i cant find any whose father was a mariner
Where Robert came from or died i guess will never be known

this is where i got the middle name but could be / probably are different people as date is a year out - sorry
Name: Robert Wheeler
Gender: Male
Marriage Date: 10 Apr 1806
Marriage Place: Southampton, Hampshire, England
Spouse: Mary Ann Smith
FHL Film Number: 1596325
Reference ID: item 3
maddie

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 3 May 2018 17:24

The ROBERT whose children were Wesleyan was a Church minister, and as I pointed out before there is nothing I can see to suggest that Mary had a second forename.

You have put Ann as part of your title, but not shown any records with Ann in her name.

Maddie

Maddie Report 3 May 2018 16:49

so does that make John a minister of the church as John's will states a carpenter of HM ship Fortitude, daughter Mary Smith Renshaw and wife Hester are beneficeries
oh what a tangled web

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 3 May 2018 16:45

Elizabeth baptised 1809 was born in Witney, Oxon, and baptised by her father

Name: Elizabeth Wheeler
Birth Date: 6 Oct 1808
Birth Place: Witney, Oxfordshire, England
Gender: Female
Event Type: Baptism
Father: Robert Wheeler
Mother: Mary Ann Wheeler
Baptism Date: 30 Aug 1809
Baptism Place: Southampton, Hampshire, England
Denomination: Wesleyan

Name: Mary Ann Wheeler
Birth Date: 7 Feb 1807
Birth Place: Northamptonshire, England
Gender: Female
Event Type: Baptism
Father: Robert Wheeler
Mother: Mary Ann Wheeler
Baptism Date: 17 Aug 1807
Baptism Place: Southampton, Hampshire, England
Denomination: Wesleyan

The actual wording on the record is

Mary Ann, daughter of Robert and Mary Ann Wheeler, of Kettering in Northamptonshire, was born February the 7th and baptized 17th August by Ewart Roberts

malyon

malyon Report 3 May 2018 16:42

Mary Renshaw
England, Hampshire Bishop's Transcripts 1680-1892
Name: Robert Wheeler
Event Type: Marriage
Event Date: 22 Oct 1805
Event Place: Southampton, Hampshire, England, United Kingdom
Gender: Male
Spouse's Name: Mary Renshaw
Spouse's Gender: Female

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 3 May 2018 16:39

The father's occupation on the IOW record in 'Minister', and he actually baptised the child whose record precedes that one in the register

Maddie

Maddie Report 3 May 2018 16:28

good find so mary has a sister. but what happened to her as not mentioned in the will or is mary actually ann?

Malyon saw those and also a mary ann wheeler born 1807 but can find no futher trace of the

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 3 May 2018 16:27

Thank you - I couldn't access that one, and those I could didn't have so much detail

Maddie

Maddie Report 3 May 2018 16:24


Kent Marriages Transcription
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First name(s) John
Last name Renshaw
Role Groom
Marital status W
Marriage year 1773
Marriage date 30 Aug 1773
Place Frindsbury
Spouse's first name(s) Hest
Spouse's last name Williams
Spouse's marital status W
County Kent
Country England
Supplier Kent Family History Society
Record source West Kent Marriage Index, Frindsbury marriages 1558-1812
Record set Kent Marriages
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Parish Marriages

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 3 May 2018 16:22

Where did you find the info that John and Hester were widowed when they married?

malyon

malyon Report 3 May 2018 16:21

Robert Wheeler
England and Wales Non-Conformist Record Indexes (RG4-8), 1588-1977
Name: Robert Wheeler
Event Type: Baptism
Christening Date: 18 Oct 1814
Christening Place: Newport, Isle of Wight
Father's Name: Robert Wheeler
Mother's Name: Mary Ann
Affiliate Publication Number: RG4_1388

malyon

malyon Report 3 May 2018 16:20

Elizabeth Wheeler
England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
Name: Elizabeth Wheeler
Gender: Female
Christening Date: 30 Aug 1809
Christening Date (Original): 30 AUG 1809
Christening Place: WESLEYAN,SOUTHAMPTON,HAMPSHIRE,ENGLAND
Birth Date: 06 Oct 1808
Father's Name: Robert Wheeler
Mother's Name: Mary Ann