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PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 21 Apr 2018 11:15

This has been driving me crazy.

I keep putting it on the back burner.....popping it out again and getting more and more.frustrated.

Perhaps someone can find something that i can't.

Here goes........

Richard Hancock born 1792 St Germans, Conwall

Grace Hicks born 1788 Menheniot, Cornwall

Their marriage.......

Grace Hicks in the England, Select Marriages, 1538–1973
Name: Grace Hicks
Gender: Female
Marriage Date: 13 Apr 1814
Marriage Place: Menheniot, Cornwall, England
Spouse: Richard Hancock

A daughter born 1814

Jane Hancock in the England, Select Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
Day Month 12-Aug
Year 1814
Parish Or Reg District Menheniot
Forename Jane
Surname HANCOCK
Sex FEmale
Father Forename Richard
Mother Forename Grace
Residence Trethawl
Father Rank Profession Farmer


Jane married Reynold Stroud in 1837

Jane Hancock in the England, Select Plymouth and West Devon, Parish Registers, 1538-1912
Name: Jane Hancock
Marriage Date: 1837
Marriage Place: Devon
Spouse: Reynold Stroud

Grace is with Jane on the 1851 census.......

1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Penquit Cottage, Modbury, Kingsbridge, Devon, England

Reynold Stroud Head Married Male 40 1811 General Labourer Cornwall
Jane Stroud Wife Married Female 36 1815 Menheniot Cornwall,
Mary J Stroud Daughter - Female 10 1841 - Dartington, Devon,
Peter Stroud Son - Male 8 1843 - Dartington, Devon,
John Stroud Son - Male 6 1845 - Dartington, Devon,
Jessie Stroud Daughter - Female 4 1847 - Devon,
Grace Hancock Mother-In-Law Widow Female 62 1789 Nurse Menheniot Cornwall

(I know all about Jane)

Grace on the 1861 census.....

1861 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Parsonage, Landulph, St Germans, Cornwall, England

Edwin W Jones Visitor Unmarried Male 33 1828 ... Devonport, Devon, England
Grace Hancock Servant Married Female 72 1789 House Keeper Menheniot, Cornwall, England
Charlotte Smallacombe Servant Unmarried Female 39 1822 House Maid Landulph, Cornwall, England

Grace died in 1867.


Here is the frustrating part...

Richard and Grace on the 1841 census........

1841 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Netton Farm, Revelstoke, Plympton St Mary, Devon, England

Richard Hancock Male 45 1796 - Farmer
Grace Hancock Female 50 1791 -
George Hancock Male 20 1821 -
Richard Hancock Male 15 1826 -
Ann Hancock Female 15 1826 -
William Hancock Male 15 1826 -
Isaac Hancock Male 30 1811 -
Sarah Parmer Female 20 1821 Devon, England
Robert Greenslade Male 10 1831 Devon, England
John Rendle Male 10 1831 Devon, England

(All born out of County)

Not only have the ages been rounded, i have no idea of when and where the children were born.

I believe that Isaac Hancock is Richard's brother who i couldn't find on the 1841 census......he was born in 1803.

There are several deaths in Devon between 1841---1851 for a Richard Hancock.

There are no baptism's records that i can find for George, Richard, Ann or William.

I have searched and searched to find them on any other census records......but failed miserably!

Prickles :-(

Andrew

Andrew Report 21 Apr 2018 11:21

Hi Prickles

Just to add...Reynold and Jane 1841?

Name: Reynold Strome
Age: 30
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1811
Gender: Male
Civil Parish: Dartington
Hundred: Stanborough
County/Island: Devon
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

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Registration district: Totnes
Sub-registration district: Totnes
Neighbors:
Piece: 247
Book: 2
Folio: 5
Page Number: 5
Household Members:
Name Age
Reynold Strome 30
Jane Strome 25
Emma Strome 3
Mary Strome 1


so no help here

Andy

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 21 Apr 2018 11:28

EDIT:

No, sorry - ignore this.

You said you couldn't find Isaac in 1841, but you've just posted the 1841 showing him with Richard and Grace.


Possibly Isaac in 1841 ??

Isaac Hancock
in the 1841 England Census
Name: Isaac Hancock
Age: 40
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1801
Gender: Male
Where born: Cornwall, England
Civil Parish: St Germans
Hundred: East (South Division)
County/Island: Cornwall
Country: England
Street address:
Occupation:
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Registration district: St Germans
Sub-registration district: St Germans
Neighbors:
Piece: 135
Book: 5
Folio: 35
Page Number: 15
Household Members:
Name Age
Isaac Hancock 40
Rebecca Hancock 40
William Hancock 7
Susanna Hancock 4

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 21 Apr 2018 11:29

Morning Andrew

I have been tearing my hair out over this one.

:-| :-D

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 21 Apr 2018 11:31

Hi ArgyllGran and thank you.

I got in a muddle with that census.......It is not my Isaac though.

I know all about my Isaac.

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 21 Apr 2018 11:52

None of the Richard Hancock deaths 1841-51 in Devon or Cornwall are anywhere near the right age, assuming 1826 birth to be more or less correct.

Maddie

Maddie Report 21 Apr 2018 11:54

WILLIAM
Last name HANCOCK
Gender Male
Birth year 1826
Baptism year 1826
Baptism date 17 May 1826
Parish St Veep
Father's first name(s) Richard
Father's last name Hancock
Mother's first name(s) Grace
Mother's last name -
Relationship Son
Place ST VEEP
County Cornwall
Country England
Record set Cornwall Baptisms
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Parish Baptisms

RICHARD
Last name HANCOCK
Gender Male
Birth year 1822
Baptism year 1822
Baptism date 30 May 1822
Parish St Veep
Father's first name(s) Richard
Father's last name Hancock
Mother's first name(s) Grace
Mother's last name -
Relationship Son
Place ST VEEP
County Cornwall
Country England

ANNE HICKS ---------------------
Last name HANCOCK
Gender Female
Birth year 1824
Baptism year 1824
Baptism date 11 May 1824
Parish St Veep
Father's first name(s) Richard
Father's last name Hancock
Mother's first name(s) Grace
Mother's last name -
Relationship Dau
Place ST VEEP
County Cornwall
Country England

GEORGE HICKS
Last name HANDCOCK
Gender Male
Birth year 1817
Baptism year 1817
Baptism date 25 May 1817
Parish St Veep
Father's first name(s) Richard
Father's last name Handcock
Mother's first name(s) Grace
Mother's last name -
Relationship Son
Place ST VEEP
County Cornwall
Country England
Record set Cornwall Baptisms
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Parish Baptisms
Collections from England, Great Britain

from fmp
Hancock Anne Hicks 1824 — 1824 Cornwall Baptisms St Veep, Cornwall, England
Hancock Elizabeth 1816 — 1816 Cornwall Baptisms St Veep, Cornwall, England
Hancock John 1819 — 1819 Cornwall Baptisms St Veep, Cornwall, England
Hancock Richard 1822 — 1822 Cornwall Baptisms St Veep, Cornwall, England
Hancock William 1826 — 1826 Cornwall Baptisms St Veep, Cornwall, England
Handcock George Hicks 1817 — 1817 Cornwall Baptisms St Veep, Cornwall, England

Maddie

Maddie Report 21 Apr 2018 12:02

Ann Hicks
Last name Hancock
Age 30
Birth year 1824
Marriage year 1854
Marriage date 01 Mar 1854
Denomination Anglican
Place Plymouth, St Andrew
Father's first name(s) Richard
Father's last name Hancock
Spouse's first name(s) Peter
Spouse's last name White
Spouse's age 28
Spouse's father's first name(s) Philip
Spouse's father's last name White
County Devon
Archive Plymouth & West Devon Record Office
Record set Devon Marriages

George Hicks
Last name Hancock
Age -
Birth year -
Marriage year 1855
Marriage date 15 Feb 1855
Denomination Anglican
Place Plymouth, Charles the Martyr
Father's first name(s) Richard
Father's last name Hancock -------- a farmer
Spouse's first name(s) Mary
Spouse's last name Rowse
Spouse's father's first name(s) John
Spouse's father's last name Rowse
County Devon
Archive Plymouth & West Devon Record Office
Record set Devon Marriages

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 21 Apr 2018 12:03

A great find Maddie!

Off to check those records out.

Thank you.

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 21 Apr 2018 12:08

I actually have that Ann Hicks Hancock marriage record on my tree.

For some reason i didn't connect the two!

Maddie

Maddie Report 21 Apr 2018 12:11

:-) :-)

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 21 Apr 2018 12:12

I am ever so slightly in love with you right now.

:-D :-D

Andrew

Andrew Report 21 Apr 2018 12:18

Son George 1851?

Name: George H Hancock
Age: 33
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1818
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Mary Hancock
Gender: Male
Where born: St Veep, Cornwall, England
Civil Parish: Plymouth Charles the Martyr
County/Island: Devon
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability:

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Registration district: Plymouth
Sub-registration district: Charles
ED, institution, or vessel: 1p
Neighbors:
Household schedule number: 77
Piece: 1878
Folio: 426
Page Number: 14
Household Members:
Name Age
George H Hancock 33
Mary Hancock 29
Henry G Hancock 2
Emily Hancock 10 Mo



Results:
Name: Mother's Maiden Surname: Order:
HANCOCK, HENRY GEORGE ROWSE Order
GRO Reference: 1849 M Quarter in PLYMOUTH Volume 09 Page 462

Andy

Maddie

Maddie Report 21 Apr 2018 12:22

a lovely photo of george on ancestry

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 21 Apr 2018 12:24

Thank you Andrew and a huge thank you to you Maddie.

I am on a roll right now.

You have no idea how long i spent trying to find those children.

Maddie

Maddie Report 21 Apr 2018 12:25

a lovely photo of george on ancestry

naughtyy boy

Devon Social & Institutional records Transcription
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First name(s) Geo Hicks
Last name Hancock
Year 1846
Date 26 Feb 1846
Place Ermington & Plympton
Description mother SUSANNA KINGCOME putative father GEO HICKS HANCOCK division of ERMINGTON AND PLYMPTON date of summons 26/02/1846 petty sessions on 10/03/1846 result ORDER MADE
Dataset Bastardy - Quarter Sessions - Returns of Affiliation Orders 1846
Record type Bastardy
County Devon
Country England
Archive Devon Heritage Centre
Devon Heritage Centre reference QS16/3/7
Record set Devon Social & Institutional Records
Category Directories & social history
Subcategory Social history
Collections from England, Great Britain


1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Noss Village, Revelstoke, Plympton St Mary, Devon, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
George Ellis Kingcombe Head Married Male 60 1791 Fisherman Devon, England
Transcription
Susanna Kingcombe Wife Married Female 61 1790 - Devon, England
Transcription
Susanna Pop Kingcombe Daughter Unmarried Female 33 1818 Straw Bonnet Maker Devon, England
Transcription
George H Haddcock Grand Son Unmarried Male 6 1845 Scholar Devon, England
Transcription
Agnes Jane Bate Grand Daughter Unmarried Female 2 1849 - Devon, England

oh dear

Susanna
Last name Kingcombe
Year 1857
Date 04 May 1857
Place Ermington & Plympton
Description mother SUSANNA KINGCOMBE putative father WILLIAM BATER division of ERMINGTON AND PLYMPTON date of summons 04/05/1857 petty sessions on 18/05/1857 result ORDER - WHOLE ENTRY CROSSED THROUGH
Dataset Bastardy - Quarter Sessions - Returns of Affiliation Orders 1857
Record type Bastardy
County Devon
Country England
Archive Devon Heritage Centre
Devon Heritage Centre reference QS16/14/7

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 21 Apr 2018 12:30

Awww, just spotted that photo Maddie.

:-)

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 21 Apr 2018 17:39

Well that's Ann, George and John sorted.

Struggling to find any further info on Elizabeth, Richard and William.

Maddie

Maddie Report 23 Apr 2018 11:33

can't find richard in census so maybe
Richard
Last name Hancock
Gender Male
Marital status -
Occupation -
Event year 1831
Birth year -
Age at death -
Burial year 1831
Burial date 14 Oct 1831
Burial place Menheniot, Cornwall, England
Place Menheniot
County Cornwall
Country England

Maddie

Maddie Report 23 Apr 2018 12:29

??????
William Hancock
Event Type Census
Event Date 1841
Event Place St Veep, Cornwall, England
Residence Note Kingole
Gender Male
Age 20-24
Age (Original) 20
Birth Year (Estimated) 1817-1821
Birthplace Cornwall
Registration District Liskeard
Parish St Veep
County Cornwall
Page Number 4
Registration Number HO107
Piece/Folio 153/6
Affiliate Record Type Household
Household

Role

Sex

Age

Birthplace
William Willcock M 55-59 Cornwall
Jane Willcock F 55-59 Cornwall
William Hoskin M 4 Cornwall
Ann Pound F 20-24 Cornwall
William Hancock M 20-24 Cornwall
Thomas Hambly M 15-19 Cornwall
James Hill M 10 Cornwall
John Willcock M 10 Cornwall
Thomas Hill M 30-34 Cornwall
Citing this Record

"England and Wales Census, 1841," database with images, FamilySearch