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29 Mar 2018 08:58 |
I am looking for details of the Father of (Emily Maud Stanhope born 1864). On her marriage certificate at St Marys Lambeth London in 1885 his name is given as Walter White Stanhope Occupation Cellarman Deceased Thanks Pam
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29 Mar 2018 09:06 |
Birth for Emily with Mothers maiden name
STANHOPE, EMILY MAUD HOWELL Order GRO Reference: 1864 M Quarter in WESTMINSTER Volume 01A Page 338
Gives this marriage
Surname First name(s) District Vol Page Marriages Mar 1859 (>99%) Howell Esther Matilda Westminster Stanhope Walter Wade Westminster 1a 390
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29 Mar 2018 09:16 |
Maybe his death
Deaths Sep 1870 (>99%) Stanhope Walter Wade 42 St. Giles 1b 341
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29 Mar 2018 09:25 |
First name(s) Walter Wade Last name Stanhope Birth year 1828 Death year - Burial year 1870 Burial date 27 Jul 1870 Year 1870 Place Brompton Age 42 Residence 43 Bloomsbury Street, Bloomsbury County Middlesex Country England Document type Burials Burial number(s) 60844, 59268 Print number 59268 Burial register number 60844 Piece description Brompton Cemetery burial book no. 203, references 59201-59499
First name(s) Walter Wade Last name Stanhope Age 31 Birth year 1828 Residence - Marriage year 1859 Parish St John the Evangelist, Smith Square Spouse's first name(s) Esther Matilda Spouse's last name Howell Spouse's age 18 Spouse's birth year 1841 Spouse residence -
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29 Mar 2018 09:28 |
Another child of the marriage
First name(s) Esther Matilda Last name Stanhope Birth year 1861 Birth date 10 Jul 1861 Baptism year 1861 Baptism date 31 Jul 1861 Father's first name(s) Walter Mother's first name(s) Esther Matilda Parish St Peter, Eaton Square, Pimlico County Middlesex Country England Archive City of Westminster Archives Centre
SADLY........................ First name(s) Esther Matilda Last name Stanhope Age 3 Birth year 1862 Death year 1865 Death date ? ? 1865 Burial year 1865 Burial date 31 Jan 1865 Place Hackney, Victoria Park Cemetery Burial place as transcribed London Denomination - County Middlesex Country England
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29 Mar 2018 09:31 |
1871 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription Willow Street, St Margaret, St George Hanover Square, London & Middlesex, England
Esther Stanhope Head - Female 29 Widow 1842 - Middlesex, England Anne Howell Mother - Female 68 Widow 1803 - Surrey, England
Esther re-married in 1872....
Esther Matilda Stanhope in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Marriage Index, 1837-1915 Name: Esther Matilda Stanhope Registration Year: 1872 Registration Quarter: Jul-Aug-Sep Registration district: St Saviour Southwark Parishes for this Registration District: View Ecclesiastical Parishes associated with this Registration District Inferred County: London Volume: 1d Page: 84 Records on Page: Name James Record Esther Matilda Stanhope
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29 Mar 2018 09:32 |
1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription 6, Fountain Street, Lambeth, London & Surrey, England
James Record Head Married Male 62 1839 Southwark, Surrey, England Labourer General Esther M Record Wife Married Female 59 1842 Westminster, Middlesex, England Tailoress Arthur J Record Son Single Male 18 1883 Lambeth, Surrey, England Grocers Assistant
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29 Mar 2018 09:34 |
1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription 30, Newport Street, Lambeth, London & Surrey, England
James Record Head Married Male 43 1838 Lambeth, Surrey, England Iron Moulder Ester Record Wife Married Female 39 1842 Westminster, Middlesex, England Tayloress
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29 Mar 2018 09:35 |
1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription Glasshouse Street, Lambeth, London & Surrey, England
James Record Head Married Male 54 1837 London, Middlesex, England Iron Moulder Esther Record Wife Married Female 49 1842 London, Middlesex, England Tailoress Arthur Record Son Single Male 8 1883 London, Middlesex, England -
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29 Mar 2018 09:38 |
Second marriage for Esther
Name: Esther Matilda Stanhope [Esther Matilda Howell] Gender: Female Record Type: Marriage Marriage Date: 30 Sep 1872 Marriage Place: Holy Trinity, Newington, Southwark, England Father: John Howell Spouse: James Record Register Type: Parish Register
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29 Mar 2018 09:38 |
RECORD, ARTHUR JAMES MMN HOWELL GRO Reference: 1882 S Quarter in LAMBETH Volume 01D Page 373
Arthur James Record in the London, England, Church of England Births and Baptisms, 1813-1916 Name: Arthur James Record Gender: Male Record Type: Baptism Baptism Date: 18 Oct 1882 Baptism Place: Lambeth St Mary the Less, Lambeth, England Father: James Record Mother: Esther Matilda Record Register Type: Parish Registers
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29 Mar 2018 09:48 |
1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription Smith Place, Saint Margaret Westminster, Westminster, London & Middlesex, England
John Howell Head Married Male 48 1803 Labourer Lowdham, Kent, England Ann Howell Wife Married Female 43 1808 - Rotherhithe, Surrey, England Mary Howell Daughter - Female 19 1832 Needle Worker Greenwich, Kent, England Esther Howell Daughter - Female 9 1842 Scholar Westminster, Middlesex, England Louisa Howell Grand Daughter - Female 1 1850 - Westminster, Middlesex, England
(I can't seem to find the Howell family on the 1841 census)
Westminster Baptisms Transcription First name(s) Esther Last name Howell Birth year 1841 Birth date 18 Jun 1841 Baptism year 1841 Baptism date 20 Dec 1841 Father's first name(s) John Mother's first name(s) Ann Parish St John the Evangelist, Smith Square County Middlesex Country England Page 126 Archive City of Westminster Archives Centre Record set Westminster Baptisms Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records Subcategory Parish Baptisms Collections from England, Great Britain
Mary Ann Howell in the England, Select Births and Christenings, 1538-1975 Name: Mary Ann Howell Gender: Female Birth Date: 22 Oct 1831 Baptism Date: 14 Nov 1831 Baptism Place: St Alphage,Greenwich,Kent,England Father: John Howell Mother: Ann
1861 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription 8, Lewisham Street, St Margarets, Westminster, London & Middlesex, England
John Howell Head Married Male 56 1805 Labourer Lewisham, Kent, England Ann Howell Wife Married Female 55 1806 - Rosherville, Surrey, England Louisa Howell Granddaughter - Female 11 1850 - Westmorland, England
Grandaughter Louisa was illegitmate...
HOWELL, LOUISA ANN - (No father named) GRO Reference: 1850 M Quarter in WESTMINSTER Volume 01 Page
Possibly Mary's daughter??
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29 Mar 2018 10:39 |
I can't seem to find Walter and Esther on the 1861 census.
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1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription White Hart Lane, Hornchurch Town Ward South, Romford, Essex, England
Ann Stanhope Head Widow Female 68 Widow 1783 - Willingale, Essex, England Walter Stanhope Son Unmarried Male 23 1828 Agl Labr Hornchurch, Essex, England Lawrence Stanhope Son Unmarried Male 19 1832 Agl Labr Hornchurch, Essex, England John Gardiner Lodger Widower Male 70 1781 Agl Labr Lexden, Essex, England John Skingley Lodger Unmarried Male 19 1832 Agl Labr Writtle, Essex, England
1841 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription White Hart Lane, Hornchurch, Romford, Essex, England
Joseph Stanhope Male Ag Lab 55 1786 - Ann Stanhope Female 55 1786 Essex, England Joseph Stanhope Male 15 1826 Essex, England Walter Stanhope Male 13 1828 Essex, England Lawrence Stanhope Male 9 1832 Essex, England Peter Harrington Male 20 1821 Ireland George Miller Male 30 1811 Ireland James Ketch Male 15 1826 -
Deaths Dec 1848 (>99%) Stanhope Joseph Romford 12 153
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Pamela
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29 Mar 2018 10:40 |
Emily Maud Stanhope was married on 29th March 1885 I have the marriage certificate Her Father is not Walter Wade Stanhope. Thanks for all your help
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PricklyHolly
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29 Mar 2018 10:53 |
Hi Pamela
Emily's baptism record......
Westminster Baptisms Transcription
First name(s) Emily Maud Last name Stanhope Birth year 1864 Birth date ? ? 1864 Baptism year 1864 Baptism date 24 Apr 1864 Father's first name(s) Walter (Cellar Man) South Bond Court? Francis Street. Mother's first name(s) Esther Matilda <<<<<< Parish St Stephen, Rochester Row County Middlesex Country England Page 229 Archive City of Westminster Archives Centre Record set Westminster Baptisms Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records Subcategory Parish Baptisms Collections from England, Great Britain
Perhaps that might convince you that her father was Walter "Wade" Stanhope and not Walter "White" Stanhope even though his middle name is written as "White" on the marriage record??
Prickles ;o))
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Pamela
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29 Mar 2018 13:44 |
Thank you I will look at this in more depth Pam
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29 Mar 2018 14:17 |
Note that on the 1851 and 1841 census records i posted for Walter Stanhope.....
Born 1828 Hornchurch, Essex.
On the 1871 census, Emily Maud is Neice to James and Emma Hope.
Emma Hope....Born 1822 Hornchurch, Essex
James and Emma on the 1851 census.....
1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription Chalk, North Aylesford, Kent, England
James Hope Head Married Male 32 1819 Railway Labourer Kent, England Emma Hope Wife Married Female 29 1822 - Hornchurch, Essex, England Henry Hope Son - Male 1 1850 - Higham, Kent, England
The son Henry......
HOPE, HENRY JAMES Mothers Maiden Name...STANHOPE GRO Reference: 1850 M Quarter in NORTH AYLESFORD Volume 05 Page 455
So it would seem then that Walter and Emma were siblings.
Frustrating that i still can't find Walter and Esther on the 1861 census.
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29 Mar 2018 14:40 |
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England & Wales marriages 1837-2005 Transcription First name(s) EMMA Last name STANHOPE Marriage quarter 3 Marriage year 1839 Registration month - MarriageFinderâ„¢ EMMA STANHOPE married James Hope District Romford District number - County Essex Country England Volume 12 Volume as transcribed 12 Page number 355 Record set England & Wales Marriages 1837-2005 Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records Subcategory Civil Marriage & Divorce Collections from Great Britain, England
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29 Mar 2018 14:43 |
The child not named on this registration.....
HOPE, - MMN STANHOPE GRO Reference: 1848 J Quarter in NORTH AYLESFORD Volume 05 Page 438
Matilda M who appears on the 1871 census....
HOPE, MATILDA MARGARET MMN STANHOPE GRO Reference: 1852 J Quarter in DARTFORD UNION Volume 02A Page 206
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29 Mar 2018 15:06 |
On 1859 Westminster Marriage posted above, Walter occ. Cellarman, his Father, Joseph Stanhope occ. Servant. Wits. Ann Wilks, Emma Howell)
(Walter Wade on image!)
(1864 Baptism, Emily Maud, Walter occ. Cellarman)
Chris :)
https://www.freereg.org.uk/
(possibly Essex/Kent on above relating, James/Emma Hope)
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