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Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 28 Mar 2018 19:30

(yes, she is with Harriett Ann Weston (Widow) Housekeeper to Charles Jay 1911. Mary Alice as Servant)

Chris :)

(a gardener one below!)

06 January 1912 - Exeter and Plymouth Gazette - Exeter, Devon, England

While John Keegan a gardener employed at Clonyn Castle Castlepollard, Westmeath, was eating his supper, a piece of meat lodged in his throat and he was choked before medical assistance could procured.


(perhaps Daughter of Harriet, not sure if they relate in families)

Baptism
County Lincolnshire
Place Grimsby
Church name (with link) St Andrew
Register type (with link) Unspecified
Register entry number 702
Birth date 04 Mar 1879
Baptism date 02 Apr 1879
Person forename Sarah Jane
Person sex F
Father forename George
Mother forename Harriet
Father surname WESTON
Person abode Strand St, Grimsby
Father occupation Fisherman


Marriages Jun 1878 (>99%)
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TODD Harriet Pearson Caistor 7a 1303
WESTON George Caistor 7a 1303


(15 Orwell Street, her Mother and Mary Keegan 1901)

Bruce

Bruce Report 28 Mar 2018 19:14

Joseph's age is given as 21 years and his father is John Keegan, gardener.
Address is simply Ayscough Street. Joseph was a fisherman.
In 1901 census Mary Alice Keegan, Joseph's wife, was living at 15 Orwell Street with Harriett Weston working as a charwoman.

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 28 Mar 2018 09:38

(notes below for 87, but don't suppose for one minute, lol)

Chris :)

14 December 1897 - Hull Daily Mail - Hull, East Riding of Yorkshire, England

A DISAPPEARANCE REPORTED. Mr Major, 87, Orwell-street, reports to the Borough Police that his son (John Major) has been missing since Saturday night...(age 34, but actual home Lynn, where he has a wife and family, was one of a crew on board a smack)



19 September 1884 - Hull Packet - Hull, East Riding of Yorkshire, England

District News.
John Smith, fisherman, was charged with stealing a tea- pot, the property of Mary Ann Havercroft. The magistrates believed that Smith only intended the affair as a joke, and dismissed the charge

(probably husband of Emma one)

AustinQ

AustinQ Report 28 Mar 2018 07:26

I checked at 87 Orwell Street (where a Joseph Francis Keegan was listed in the directory in 1882)- can't see anything.

There is a John Smith (fisherman, born Brixham) at 86 Orwell Street, but he is with his wife Emma (had been for a long time).

Bruce- do you have the marriage certificate for Joseph and Mary Alice? Does it give an age and father's name and occupation for Joseph?

Off out now- will check back later

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 28 Mar 2018 07:08

Alias John Smith, lol...(oh grief)...

Chris :)

(had a quick look down Ayscough Street 1881, but not seeing, don't you have the Marriage Cert.?)

Bruce

Bruce Report 27 Mar 2018 19:46

Ada's Father, Joseph Keegan, abandoned his wife and children in 1889, when they were taken into the Caistor workhouse. A warrant was issued for him when he was also known as John Smith. Apart from Caroline, her siblings all married locally and lived locally. The inquest into Ada's Mother, names her father as Joseph Francis Keegan. I have not been able to trace him on any census.
I have traced the family Thomas Lammin and Florence, Ada's sister, quite successfully.
I will pursue the electoral rolls for Burgess Street, when I next in the local library.

I must express my appreciation for everyone's help

AustinQ

AustinQ Report 27 Mar 2018 14:52

It looks like Ada lived with her sister (Kate Florence) for a while.

In 1911 Florence (Kate) is living as servant at 110 Burgess St, Grimsby.

Kate married Thomas Lammin in 1911 (4th qtr)- she is listed as Florence Keegan).

Electoral register 1928/ 1929/ 1930- still at 110 Burgess Street:

Ada Keegan
Michael Joseph Richardson
Thomas Lammin
Kate Florence Lammin

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 27 Mar 2018 13:04

One below, just says Month 1...(but somewhere FMP used to have Maritime Deaths also, with more on image, unless I'm mistaken!)

J Keegan 1895 — Great Britain BT 334 Deaths At Sea 1891 – 1972

Chris :)

(as for Mary Ada, wondered if any clue from Marriages of siblings. Bruce, what else do you know?)...

AustinQ

AustinQ Report 27 Mar 2018 11:19

Enjoy your shop- I'll be out myself in a while.

The only reference I can see to a Joseph Keegan in the area is:-

City and County Directories, 1766 - 1946
Name: Joseph Francis Keegan
Publication Year: 1882
Address: 87 Orwell street
Residence Place: Hull, Yorkshire, England
Occupation: Fisherman

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 27 Mar 2018 10:09

(lol, well wherever we end up. hope they have newspapers archives!, we'd be lost!!. Now orf' to T***O, and hope they don't have them there, one place I won't miss!)

Chris :)

AustinQ

AustinQ Report 27 Mar 2018 10:01

National School Admission Registers
First name(s) Frank
Last name Keegan
Event year 1890
School name King Edward Street School
Town Grimsby
County Lincolnshire
Parent name(s) Joseph Keegan
Book type Admissions

AustinQ

AustinQ Report 27 Mar 2018 09:08

Lol! Yes, I think I'm coming back as a fisherman in the next life

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 27 Mar 2018 08:44

(yes, that would fit with Mother 1911, says 5 children, and Widowed, just don't know when...

Chris :)

(another perhaps? of Hull/Grimsby Fisher/Trawler Men that go 'missing, lost at sea' that we never find!)


https://www.freereg.org.uk/

(Burials (Grimsby) John Francis 1955, John William 1964 on above)

AustinQ

AustinQ Report 27 Mar 2018 08:32

I don't see Ada in 1911

Stamford Mercury 30 September 1881
GRIMSBY - Sept 23 at the Roman Catholic chapel, Holme-hill, Joseph Keegan, fisherman an Ayscough Street, to Mary Alice Murphy of King Edward Street.
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Possible Births:
KEEGAN, JOHN FRANCIS MURPHY
GRO Reference: 1883 M Quarter in CAISTOR Volume 07A Page 658

KEEGAN, KATE FLORENCE MURPHY
GRO Reference: 1885 M Quarter in CAISTOR Volume 07A Page 675

KEEGAN, CAROLINE MURPHY
GRO Reference: 1886 J Quarter in CAISTOR Volume 07A Page 695

KEEGAN, MARY ADA MURPHY
GRO Reference: 1887 D Quarter in CAISTOR Volume 07A Page 632

KEEGAN, JOHN WILLIAM MURPHY
GRO Reference: 1889 D Quarter in CAISTOR Volume 07A Page 675
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John Francis- going by the name Frank:

1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
King Edward Street, Great Grimsby, Caistor, Lincolnshire, England
Mary Murphy Head Married Female 20 1871 Kent, England -
John Murphy Son - Male 0 1891 Lincolnshire, England -
Frank Keegan Nephew - Male 8 1883 Lincolnshire, England -
Sarah Withers Cousin Married Female 30 1861 Lincolnshire, England -
Lottie Withers Cousin - Female 3 1888 Lincolnshire, England

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 27 Mar 2018 07:05

When did her Father die?...is she not one of 90 Orphans listed on 1901...(Caroline also with her)

Chris :)

Where are the girls 1911?...

(can see John William in Grimsby)

Edits (Caroline, 'Household Occupation', Birkenhead, in below)

http://taking-stock.org.uk/Home/Dioceses/Diocese-of-Shrewsbury/Birkenhead-St-Anne

Bruce

Bruce Report 26 Mar 2018 19:37

Chris and Austin
You are both correct in the families you have shown. To the best of my knowledge she was a nun. On the 1901 census she was in St Emmanuel Roman Catholic Boarding School in Leed, part of St Mary's convent and orphanage.

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 26 Mar 2018 11:53

(right you are then AQ, lol, notes 1891 as Ada also, with her Mother in Workhouse (Lincs.)

(also with them, Henry (6) Caroline (4) John William (1)

Chris :)

AustinQ

AustinQ Report 26 Mar 2018 09:07

Looks like her birth date was changed on the 1939 register from 1892 to 1889 in 1948- the code given was NJA- which is Manchester.

She was originally added as Just ADA. Mary was later added (possibly also in 1948- code was also given as Manchester)

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 26 Mar 2018 08:05

Could be below for her...

Chris :)

Lancashire Death indexes for the years: 1967

KEEGAN Mary Ann 77 Manchester (CRU) Manchester BOOK(CRU)/335/18

http://www.lancashirebmd.org.uk/


Below was Mother of Mary Ada 1887...(Murphy as Mother Maiden Name)

Burial
County Lincolnshire
Place (with link) Grimsby
Church name (with link) Cemeter
Register type (with link) Unspecified
Burial date 30 Nov 1917
Burial person forename Mary Alice
Burial person surname KEEGAN
Person age 56
Notes Died 26 Nov

https://www.freereg.org.uk/


Marriages Sep 1881 (>99%)
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KEEGAN Joseph Caistor 7a 1104
MURPHY Mary Alice Caistor 7a 1104


30 September 1881 - Stamford Mercury - Stamford, Lincolnshire, England

Marriage
Grimsby - Sept. 23, at the Roman Catholic chapel, Holme hill. Joseph Keegan, fisherman, of Ayscough-street to Mary Alice Murphy, King Edward-street.



Edits (other writing? on that 1939 image 6/10/1892)


(and below perhaps who she was 'Housekeeper' to) Edits (yes, Probate 1941, 12, Acland Street)

26 March 1941 - Manchester Evening News - Manchester, Greater Manchester

ACKNOWLEDGMENTS
...Brothers and Sisters of the late GEORGE BROWN desire to Thank all relatives, friends, neighbours and members R.A.O.B., for their kindness, sympathy, and floral tributes received in their sad bereavement. —Acland-street, Beswick.

Bruce

Bruce Report 25 Mar 2018 18:39

Many thanks for your help