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New thread started:

https://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/general_chat/thread/1400101

Best to continue on this thread, Helen, rather than the new one, to save people repeating info already posted here.

Hi guys

Thankyou to everyone that has found these pieces of records for me . i will indeed look through everthing and put it altogether .
Thankyou so much for your help
Regards helen :-D

It's a shame Helen didn't get back to us.

I could have posted a lot more information regarding the parents and grandparents of
Joseph Andrew Dale/Goldsmith.

I would bookmark 3 sites
https://www.freebmd.org.uk/

https://www.familysearch.org/search/collection/list#page=1®ion=UNITED_KINGDOM_IRELAND

https://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/

The first is the FreeBMD home page - it has links to FreeCEN and FreeREG as well as to the search page for FreeBMD
(FreeCEN has a convenient display, but very variable coverage - Noefolk is complete for 1861/71/91)

FreeBND aims to transcribe the printed GRO index which ended with 1983.
Transcriptions for the 1980s leave 70% of the quarters incomplete, plus 10 of the earler quarters, viz

Births Jun 1963 (84%) ****************
Births Dec 1964 (4%) ****************
Births Sep 1978 (44%) ****************
Births Dec 1978 (6%) ****************
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Marriages Mar 1964 (54%) ****************
Marriages Dec 1965 (6%) ****************
Marriages Dec 1966 (55%) ****************
Marriages Sep 1969 (44%) ****************
Marriages Dec 1969 (2%) ****************
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Deaths Mar 1975 (99%) *

[The %-ages are amount transcribed]

To deal with these gaps, and the more recent stuff, we can use collections from the FS site, but it don't find the searching there so nice.

There are short-comings with the printed index - the main ones being no mother's maiden surname on births pre-1911q3, lack of full names (initials get used for mid-names), lack of age at death pre-1866.
These are addressed with the new GRO index at the 3rd bookmarked site, which covers births thru 1917 and deaths thru 1957.
This site is also the gateway to buying the GRO's copy of BMD certs, and you do have to do a free rego.
The drawbacks to the the site are it doesn't address the lack of a spouse's surname for marrs pre-1912, and it's a pain to search.
E.g., suppose I'm looking for Fisher-Briggs births for 1871-1901, probably in King;s Lynn (but I'm not sure)
I could look for 1921-1951 with one search for Norfolk with FreeBMD, but with the new GRO index, I have to search each sex seperately, and do it in 5-year chunks (1899+-2, 1894+-2, etc.)
I would also need to know vol=4b covered the rego county of Norfolk.


So, starting with FreeBMD, we enter the2 surnames Hardy, Goldsmith.
We get several possible hits, incl:
Marriages Sep 1939 (>99%)
Hardy Charles W Goldsmith Kings' L. 4b 1232

Now, click on the page number to see the 4 names on the page, viz:

Marriages Sep 1939 (>99%)
Goldsmith Gertrude M Hardy King's L. 4b 1232
Hardy Charles W Goldsmith Kings' L. 4b 1232
plus 2 other names.

Now we search for Hardy-Goldsmith births. We get hits for 1938q4-1951q4, plus 2 later hits in Nottingham which don't look like ours.
Note the 1938q4 hit is before the marr, and no page number is given for it, just "see M46".
The birth was rego'ed initially in 1939q1 under Goldsmith-Goldsmith.
One can click on the page number to see if there's an extra rego under the fathers surname - there's not.
(Unwed parents can jointly rego a child, but the father is only named if both the mother and father agree.
Initially the couple had to appear together - later relaxed to allow the father to attend any rego office, then later still to allow the father to submit a notarized statement. The mother still had to approve.)
Also, one had (and still have) 6 weeks to rego a birth in England/Wales, but the note (see M46) still appears in the actual birth quarter. The birth was later re-rego'ed after the parents wed.
Actually, the child is legitimized by the marriage of its parents, provided both were free to marry at the time of birth. The marr legitimizes the child, not the re-rego.
I'll not list Leslie's sibs as some will still be alive - all were born in Norfolk, except Les:

Births Jun 1942 (>99%)
Hardy Leslie C Goldsmith Manchester 8d 296

One rego's Bs and Ds at the local subdistrict office. These rego's are the ones the informants actually signed.
Copies of the events were made at the end of each quarter and, after checking, these copies were sent to the GRO.
Completed rego's (500 entries at 5 per page) were deposited at the local superintendents office.
One can buy official BMDs from the local office that now holds the rego's (Manchester/Norfolk here).
One can also buy official m.certs from the church that held the marr, if it's in their current rego.
Some local indexes are online - see https://www.ukbmd.org.uk/local_bmd
In particular, http://www.lancashirebmd.org.uk/

Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1942
Surname Forename(s) Mother's Maiden Name Sub-District Registers At Reference
HARDY Leslie C GOLDSMITH Manchester Withington Hospital Manchester WITH/9/91

In 1936, Subdistricts were set up at two Manchester hospitals (Crumpsall was the other one).
A local ref usually has 3 parts - a church or subdistricy code, a register sequence number, and a (local) page or entry number - 91 is a page # - marrs usually havean entry number (so one knows who wed whom).


Marriages Sep 1939 (>99%)
Goldsmith Gertrude M Hardy King's L. 4b 1232
Hardy Charles W Goldsmith Kings' L. 4b 1232

Marriages Jun 1960 (>99%)
HARDY Gertrude M VAN PELT King's L. 4b 1112
VAN PELT Theodorus HARDY King's L. 4b 1112

Deaths Mar 1959 (>99%)
HARDY Charles W 39 King's L. 4b 661

Deaths Jun 1969 (>99%)
VAN PELT Theodorus 22AU1918 KING'S L. 4B 1499

Gertrude probably died after 1980, so we use FS

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QVZX-CFYK
Name Gertrude Mary Van-Pelt
Event Type Death Registration
Registration Quarter Jan-Feb-Mar
Registration Year 1998
Registration District Kings Lynn
County Norfolk
Event Place Kings Lynn, Norfolk, England
Birth Date (available after June quarter 1969) 03 May 1917
Volume 6371B
Page 77B


Births Mar 1920 (>99%)
Hardy William C Southgate King's L. 4b 640

Births Jun 1917 (>99%)
Goldsmith Gertrude M Fisher King's L 4b 397

I think this is Harold who appears on the 1939 Register...

Births Jun 1921 (>99%)
Goldsmith Simon H N Fisher King's L. 4b 521

He obviously preferred the name Harold (Probably his second name and who you referred to as "Harry"

Marriages Mar 1962 (>99%)
GOLDSMITH Harold S N MESSING King's L. 4b 1379
MESSING Helen M Goldsmith Kings L. 4b 1379


England & Wales deaths 1837-2007 Transcription
First name(s) HAROLD SIMON N
Last name GOLDSMITH
Gender Male
Birth day 5
Birth month 4
Birth year 1921
Age -
Death quarter 3
Death year 2006
District Kings Lynn
District number 6371B
Register number 103B
Entry number 274
Date of registration mm/yy 0906
County Norfolk
Country England
Record set England & Wales Deaths 1837-2007
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Civil Deaths & Burials
Collections from Great Britain, England


Joseph A R Goldsmith in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Birth Index, 1916-2005
Name: Joseph A R Goldsmith
Mother's Maiden Surname: Fisher
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1919
Registration district: King's Lynn
Inferred County: Norfolk
Volume Number: 4b
Page Number: 397


Joseph A R Goldsmith in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Marriage Index, 1916-2005
Name: Joseph A R Goldsmith
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1946
Registration district: King's Lynn
Inferred County: Norfolk
Spouse: Elizabeth M Wilson
Volume Number: 4b
Page Number: 1252


Joseph Andrew R Goldsmith in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1916-2007
Name: Joseph Andrew R Goldsmith
Death Age: 60
Birth Date: 5 Jul 1919
Registration Date: Jun 1980
Registration district: Norwich
Inferred County: Norfolk
Volume: 10
Page: 1592


Births Sep 1922 (>99%)
Goldsmith Jessie E Fisher King's L. 4b 463

Jessie E Goldsmith in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Marriage Index, 1916-2005
Name: Jessie E Goldsmith
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1958
Registration district: King's Lynn
Inferred County: Norfolk
Spouse: Eric G Neal
Volume Number: 4b
Page Number: 1339

??

Eleanor Jessie Neal in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1916-2007
Name: Eleanor Jessie Neal
Death Age: 65
Birth Date: 21 May 1922
Registration Date: Sep 1987
Registration district: Kings Lynn
Inferred County: Norfolk
Volume: 10
Page: 1366





The son Wyndham who appears on the 1939 Register was also born in Cardiff

Births Mar 1927 (>99%)
Goldsmith Wyndham R Fisher Cardiff 11a 576

Marriages Mar 1952 (>99%)
Goldsmith Wyndham R Hutson King's L. 4b 1211
Hutson Sheila M Goldsmith Kings L 4b 1211


England & Wales deaths 1837-2007 Transcription

First name(s) WYNDHAM RAYMOND
Last name GOLDSMITH
Gender Male
Birth day 14
Birth month 1
Birth year 1927
Age -
Death quarter 2
Death year 2006
District Kings Lynn
District number 6371B
Register number 103B
Entry number 005
Date of registration mm/yy 0506
County Norfolk
Country England
Record set England & Wales Deaths 1837-2007
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Civil Deaths & Burials
Collections from Great Britain, England


Births Mar 1924 (>99%)
Goldsmith Charles E Fisher Cardiff


England & Wales deaths 1837-2007 Transcription

First name(s) CHARLES EDWARD
Last name GOLDSMITH
Gender Male
Birth day 26
Birth month 12
Birth year 1923
Age -
Death quarter 1
Death year 2000
District Kings Lynn
District number 6371B
Register number 85B
Entry number 004
Date of registration mm/yy 0300
County Norfolk
Country England
Record set England & Wales Deaths 1837-2007
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Civil Deaths & Burials
Collections from Great Britain, England


Births Sep 1925 (>99%)
Goldsmith Stanley D Fisher Cardiff 11a 679


England & Wales deaths 1837-2007 Transcription

First name(s) STANELY DAVID
Last name GOLDSMITH
Gender Male
Birth day 26
Birth month 8
Birth year 1925
Age -
Death quarter 4
Death year 2002
District Kings Lynn
District number 6371B
Register number 92B
Entry number 272
Date of registration mm/yy 1102
County Norfolk
Country England
Record set England & Wales Deaths 1837-2007
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Civil Deaths & Burials
Collections from Great Britain, England


Births Dec 1928 (>99%)
Goldsmith Ivy M Fisher Cardiff 11a 615

Deaths Dec 1928 (>99%)
Goldsmith Ivy M 0 Cardiff 11a 405

Son Donald was also born in Cardiiff

So between the births of Charles and Jessie....the family obviously moved to Cardiff for some reason.

Mother Gertrude Maud Goldsmith nee Fisher......obviously returned to Kings Lynn, Norfolk by the time of the 1939 Register and that is where she died in 1958.


Hi Helen, take the time to slowly work your way through all the information that has been provided for you on here........And hopefully, all will become clear.

Prickles :o))

If you use below, you will see other Goldsmith names, with Mother Maiden Name Fisher, some are Cardiff...(first seems to be 1924 Charles E.)

https://www.freebmd.org.uk/cgi/search.pl

Chris :)

(perhaps the family moved from Kings Lynn and then back again!, to be sure you really need to purchase Certificates)


Deaths Dec 1943 (>99%)
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GOLDSMITH Annie 68 King's L. 4b 383


Deaths Mar 1921 (>99%)
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Goldsmith Joseph 66 King's L. 4b 347

Father Robert on the 1939 Register......

Fisher Household (3 People) 16 Losinga Road , King's Lynn M.B., Norfolk, England

Robert Fisher 09 Sep 1876 Male Unfit For Work Married 86 1
Thomas H Fisher 30 Sep 1911 Male Farm Labourer Single 86 2
Irene S Jamieson (Duck) 16 Sep 1920 Female Land Worker Single 86 3


Births Dec 1911 (>99%)
Fisher Thomas H Cook King's L. 4b 527

Robert Fisher in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1916-2007
Name: Robert Fisher
Death Age: 73
Birth Date: abt 1877
Registration Date: Mar 1950
Registration district: Kings Lynn
Inferred County: Norfolk
Volume: 4b
Page: 560

Looks to be below...

Chris :)

Baptism
Place South Lynn
Church name (with link) All Saints
Register type (with link) Parish Register
Register entry number 638
Baptism date 24 Oct 1894
Person forename Joseph Andrew Goldsmith Dale
Person sex M
Father forename Joseph
Mother forename Annie
Father surname DALE
Person abode 11 Bridge Street
Father occupation Fireman


Place King's Lynn
Church name (with link) St Margaret
Register type (with link) Parish Register
Register entry number 359
Marriage date 6 Nov 1894
Groom forename Joseph
Groom surname GOLDSMITH
Groom condition Bachelor
Groom occupation Mariner
Groom abode Bridge street
Bride forename Annie
Bride surname DALE
Bride condition Spinster
Bride abode Bridge Street
Groom father forename Joseph
Groom father surname GOLDSMITH
Groom father occupation Fisherman deceased
Bride father forename Allen
Bride father surname DALE
Bride father occupation Labourer deceased
Witness1 forename Andrew
Witness1 surname MORRISON
Witness2 forename Mary
Witness2 surname MORRISON

https://www.freereg.org.uk/


(if her Father below)

Burial
County Norfolk
Place King's Lynn
Church name (with link) St Margaret
Register type (with link) Parish Register
Register entry number 535
Burial date 05 Jan 1889
Burial person forename Allen
Burial person surname DALE
Person age 47
Burial person abode Hospital


(possibly her below)

Birth
DALE, ANNIE (NORTON)
GRO Reference: 1874 D Quarter in NORWICH Volume 04B Page 133


Birth
DALE, ALLEN WALTER (NORTON)
GRO Reference: 1882 J Quarter in KING'S LYNN Volume 04B Page 340


Marriages Jun 1872 (>99%)
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Dale Allen Mitford 4b 509
Norton Elizabeth Mitford 4b 509

Gertrude appears as Gertie/Gerty on the 1901 and 1911 census records...

1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Trues Yard, North Street, Kings Lynn, Kings Lynn St Margaret, Norfolk, England

Robert Fisher Head Married Male 24 1877 Lynn, Norfolk, England Fisherman
Mary A Fisher Wife Married Female 25 1876 Lynn, Norfolk, England -
Gerty M Fisher Daughter Single Female 3 1898 Lynn, Norfolk, England -
Charles R Fisher Son Single Male 1 1900 Lynn, Norfolk, England -



1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
North Place North Street King's Lynn, St Margarets, Norfolk, England

Robert Fisher Head Married Male 33 1878 Kings Lynn Norfolk Fisherman
Mary Ann Fisher Wife Married Female 34 1877 Kings Lynn Norfolk -
Gertie Maud Fisher Daughter Single Female 13 1898 Kings Lynn Norfolk School
Charles Robert Fisher Son - Male 11 1900 Kings Lynn Norfolk School
Ethel May Fisher Daughter - Female 9 1902 Kings Lynn Norfolk School
Arthur Edward Fisher Son - Male 3 1908 Kings Lynn Norfolk -
Elsie May Fisher Daughter - Female 1 1910 Kings Lynn Norfolk -


FISHER, GERTRUDE MAUD MMN COOK
GRO Reference: 1898 M Quarter in KING'S LYNN Volume 04B Page 336

Parents marraige.....

Robert Fisher in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Marriage Index, 1837-1915
Name: Robert Fisher
Spouse: Mary Ann Cook
Registration Year: 1898
Registration Quarter: Jan-Feb-Mar
Registration district: King's Lynn
Inferred County: Norfolk
Volume: 4b
Page: 483

Joseph Andrew Goldsmith in the Web: UK, Royal Naval Reserve Service Records Index, 1860-1955
Name: Joseph Andrew Goldsmith
Birth Date: 8 Sep 1894
Birth Place: King's Lynn, Norfolk
Date: 1908-1955
Service Number: SD 1109

Joseph A Goldsmith 1109/SD Deck Hand 1919 Royal Naval Reserve


British Merchant Navy, First World War Medal Cards 1914-1925 Transcription
First name(s) Joseph Andrew
Last name Goldsmith
Birth year 1894
Birth place as transcribed Kings Lynn
Birth place Kings Lynn
Birth county -
Birth country -
Year -
Link to site http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/D8019490
Source Registry of Shipping and Seamen: Index of First World War Mercantile Marine Medals and the British War Medal
Archive reference BT 351/1/52023
Medal type Merchant Navy Medal Index Cards, 1914-1920
Record set Britain, Campaign, Gallantry & Long Service Medals & Awards
Category Military, armed forces & conflict
Subcategory Medal rolls and honours
Collections from Great Britain, UK None

(I can't find the death of Joseph)

I think this is Joseph A Goldsmith on the 1901 census..


1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Sir Lewis Street, Kings Lynn, Kings Lynn St Margaret, Norfolk, England

Joseph Goldsmith Head Married Male 48 1853 King's Lynn, Norfolk, England General Labourer
Annie Goldsmith Wife Married Female 26 1875 Norwich, Norfolk, England -
***Joseph A Goldsmith Son Single Male 6 1895 King's Lynn, Norfolk, England -
Frederick W Goldsmith Son Single Male 4 1897 King's Lynn, Norfolk, England -
Martha M M Goldsmith Daughter Single Female 1 1900 King's Lynn, Norfolk, England -
Elizabeth Dale Mother-In-Law Widow Female 59 1842 Norfolk, England -
Walter Dale Brother-In-Law Single Male 19 1882 King's Lynn, Norfolk, England General Labourer

His parents marriage.......

Marriages Dec 1894 (>99%)
Dale Annie King's L. 4b 919
Goldsmith Joseph King's L. 4b 919

Joseph birth was registered with his mothers maiden name....

DALE, JOSEPH ANDREW GOLDSMITH -
GRO Reference: 1894 D Quarter in KING'S LYNN Volume 04B Page 322

Probably born before the marriage.

Edit: Yes he was born before the marriage..........

Norfolk banns Transcription


Record set Norfolk Banns
Sex Male
Archive reference PD 39/59
First name(s) Joseph
Last name Goldsmith (Batchelor)
Banns year 1894
Marriage year 1894
Spouse's first name(s) Annie
Spouse's last name Dale (Spinster)
Parish King's Lynn, St Margaret with St Nicholas
Diocese Norwich
County Norfolk
Country England
Residence Kings Lynn
Marriage date 06 Nov 1894
Spouse's parish Kings Lynn
Archive Norfolk Record Office
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Parish Marriages
Collections from England, Great Britain


Joseph on the 1911 census.....

Joseph Goldsmith in the 1911 England Census

Name: Joseph Goldsmith
Age in 1911: 16
Estimated birth year: abt 1895
Relation to Head: Inmate
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Kings Lynn, Norfolk
Civil Parish: Dartford
County/Island: Kent
Country: England
Street address: Training Ship Warspite, River Thames, off Stone, near Greenhithe
Marital Status: Single
Occupation: sea Apprentice
Registration district: Dartford
Registration District Number: 43
Sub-registration district: Dartford
ED, institution, or vessel: 32-36
Piece: 3792

Joseph Goldsmith 16

Replying generally...

Closed records on the 1939 Register indicates that the named person was born after 1915 & that they had not died in England or Wales before 1992. It was a working document until then & formed the basis of the NHS numbering system. It is slowly being updated where names & dates of birth can be matched with the death indices.

WW2 Service Records are still with the MOD. You can purchase a copy for £30 using the following link.
http://www.veterans-uk.info/service_records/service_records.html

At some point you’ll probably be advised to purchase birth, marriage or death certificates. Use https://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/
A paper copy will cost £9.25.
For Births: 1837 –1917 & Deaths: 1837 –1957, there is currently a trial where you can buy a PDF version sent via a link for £6.

Hi guys

Umm i dont really have dates etc... I am aware that only one of gertrudes (my great nan ) is alive . why are some of the records closed ? What does this mean ? Strange thing is gertrude i thought was born in cardiff soith wales with the rest of her sibling stanley and charlie and harry etc.. This is so hard and confusing . when you dont know dates etc...
William c hardy my great grandad had a few childrne 5 i think of which one was leslie charles hardy my granddad . i know these details etc... I just camt seem to get started with this . also how do i get service records ? As i was aware of william being in the japanese prisoner war camp. This is all very interesting for me and my children .

Could be below...

Chris :)

Baptism
County Norfolk
Place King's Lynn
Church name (with link) St Nicholas
Register type (with link) Parish Register
Register entry number 1749
Birth date 5 Jan 1898
Baptism date 21 Jun 1901
Person forename Gertie Maud
Person sex F
Father forename Robert
Mother forename Mary Ann
Father surname FISHER
Person abode Trews Yd North Street
Father occupation Fisherman

https://www.freereg.org.uk/

(from above link, also below)


Ethel May FISHER Baptism 21 Jun 1901 (Born 2nd June 1901)

Charles Robert FISHER Baptism 21 Jun 1901 (Born 22nd Aug. 1899)

(couple of others also, different dates)

It seems Gertrude's parents married in Portsmouth......

Marriages Sep 1916 (>99%)
Fisher Gertrude M Goldsmith Portsmouth 2b 919
Goldsmith Joseph A Fisher Portsmouth 2b 919


Births Mar 1898 (>99%)
Fisher Gertrude Maud King's L. 4b 336


Gertrude M Goldsmith in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1916-2007
Name: Gertrude M Goldsmith
Death Age: 60
Birth Date: abt 1898
Registration Date: Dec 1958
Registration district: Kings Lynn
Inferred County: Norfolk
Volume: 4b
Page: 513

The birth date of Gertrude M Van Pelt (Hardy) born 1917 on the 1939 register......is actually

3rd May 1917

Gertrude Mary Van-pelt in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1916-2007
Name: Gertrude Mary Van-pelt
Death Age: 80
Birth Date: 3 May 1917
Registration Date: Jan 1998
Registration district: Kings Lynn
Inferred County: Norfolk
Register Number: 77B
District and Subdistrict: 6371B

Her second marriage.....

Gertrude M Hardy in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Marriage Index, 1916-2005
Name: Gertrude M Hardy
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1960
Registration district: King's Lynn
Inferred County: Norfolk
Spouse: Theodorus Van Pelt
Volume Number: 4b
Page Number: 1112

If them below...

Chris :)

1911 (Find My Past)
John William Hardy Head Single Male 35 1876 North Woolham Carter Labourer
Martha Mary Hardy - Single Female 32 1879 Kings Lynn Norfolk Housekeeper
Valtine Rose Hardy Daughter - Female 9 1902 Kings Lynn Norfolk -
Violet May Southgate Daughter - Female 7 1904 Kings Lynn Norfolk
Alice Maud Southgate Daughter - Female 4 1907 Kings Lynn Norfolk
Baptist Yard Broad St Lynn, St Margarets, Norfolk

Birth
SOUTHGATE, VALENTINE ROSE -
GRO Reference: 1902 M Quarter in KING'S LYNN Volume 04B Page 310 Order

Birth
SOUTHGATE, VIOLET MAY -
GRO Reference: 1904 S Quarter in KINGS LYNN Volume 04B Page 316

Birth
SOUTHGATE, ALICE MAUD -
GRO Reference: 1907 M Quarter in KING'S LYNN Volume 04B Page 296


Deaths Jun 1937 (>99%)
---------------------------------------------------
Hardy Martha M 57 King's L. 4b 329

Marriages Mar 1913 (>99%)
Hardy John W Southgate King's L. 4b 573
Southgate Martha M Hardy King's L. 4b 573

Births Jun 1913 (>99%)

Hardy George H Southgate King's L. 4b 549
Births Sep 1916 (>99%)
Hardy Dorothy M Southgate King's L. 4b 478
Births Mar 1920 (>99%)
Hardy William C Southgate King's L. 4b 640

Do you know when Charles William died?

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First name(s) CHARLES W
Last name HARDY
Gender Male
Birth day -
Birth month -
Birth year 1920
Age 39
Death quarter 1
Death year 1959
District Kings Lynn
County Norfolk
Volume 4B
Page 661
Country England
Record set England & Wales Deaths 1837-2007
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Civil Deaths & Burials


Conflict World War 2
Record set Prisoners Of War 1715-1945
Archive reference WO 345/23
First name(s) Charles William
Last name Hardy
Year 1942
Birth year 1918
Rank Private Army
Regiment -
Residence Kings Lynn
Residence county Norfolk
Country of imprisonment Thailand
Nationality British
Prison camp or ship Thailand or 4D Camp
Archive The National Archives
Document details War Office: Japanese Index Cards of Allied Prisoners of War and Internees, Second World War, 1942-1945
Category Military, armed forces & conflict
Subcategory Regimental & service records
Collections from Great Britain, UK

Mother Martha mary and father John William on this record, and Mrs Hardy wife at 6 st Annes street Kings Lynn? the age is a year or 2 out but that is not especially unusual.

1939 register

Goldsmith Household (10 People)
Norfolk Street, Corner Of Blackfriars Road , King's Lynn M.B., Norfolk, England

Gertrude M Van Pelt (Hardy) 17 May 1917 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Single 212 9 <<<<<

Gertrude M Goldsmith 05 Jan 1898 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Widowed 212 1
Harold Goldsmith 05 Apr 1921 Male Grocery Warehouseman Single 212 2
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Wyndham Goldsmith 14 Jan 1927 Male At School - 212 6
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