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21 Mar 2018 12:35 |
Thanks Prickles for your efforts in looking for Jesse and I will keep you in the picture should anything come up, I live in hope.
Thanks again for all your hard work, it's appreciated.
Bob
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20 Mar 2018 22:10 |
If you do succeed Bob.........do let us know.
I have lost most of my hair and eaten all my finger nails searching for him!
Prickles..... :-D
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20 Mar 2018 14:42 |
Just like to say thanks to Mary, Margaret & especially Erika & Prickly Holly, for your invaluable help in trying to find my 2 x great grandfather Jesse Huby, hopefully I will eventually succeed in my search :-)
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robert
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18 Mar 2018 17:03 |
That is the Hubys
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18 Mar 2018 16:45 |
Herbert on the 1939 Register.......
Herbert Huby on the 1939 Register
Vickery Household (8 People) 22 Isledon Road , Islington, London, England
Herbert Huby 19 Jan 1865 Male Instrument Maker Electrical Married 57 5 Alfred E Vickery 27 Sep 1884 Male Road Sweeper Ibc Married 57 1 Ann C Vickery 17 Nov 1879 Female Household Duties Married 57 2 Alfred G Vickery 29 Apr 1915 Male Electrician Single 57 3 Henry W Vickery 13 Mar 1920 Male Warehouse Store Keeper Single 57 4 Richard H Walmisley 14 Apr 1890 Male Hotel Waiter Married 57 6 Hetty R Walmisley 09 Dec 1895 Female House Duties Married 57 7 Maurice Walmisley 29 Jan 1921 Male Stores Man General Post Office Single 57 8
His wife......
Harriet A Huby on the 1939 Register (The middle initial A is actually R on the image)
Huby Household (3 People) 2 Pilbert Mansions , St Marylebone, London, England
Harriet A Huby 12 Jun 1874 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married 55 1 Phyllis D Kirk (Huby) 07 Sep 1905 Female Telephone Operator Ltr Single 55 2 Clarice R (Roberta) Roberts (Huby) 29 Sep 1913 Female Dancer Stage (Travelling)) Single 55 3
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18 Mar 2018 16:38 |
PS Sorry in answer to your Q my mothers line is Edwin James Huby 1836
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18 Mar 2018 16:33 |
The other family names of interest, apart from Huby are, Primmer, Petzing, Marder & Moth, the latter three are my wife's ancestors, the Petzings, who came to England in the late 1800s, from Prussia, now Germany, I have records back to 1605, they seem to be pretty static bunch.
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18 Mar 2018 16:18 |
Herbert R Huby Son Single Male 21 1870 London, Middlesex, England Electrician
This is my grandfather Herbert Rosewell Huby, he was born 1865 Greenwich 1D 671 Just like to mention as I am not a member of Ancestry, but have built my family history up to Jesse Huby, c 1816, but thanks to your information I have been able to fill nearly all the gaps, thank you.
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18 Mar 2018 15:35 |
The information that Mary posted is for the son Edwin James Huby who married Jane Miller Rosewell in 1860.
Edwin James Huby in the London, England, Church of England Marriages and Banns, 1754-1931 Name: Edwin James Huby (Bachelor) Stuff Presser Gender: Male Record Type: Marriage Marriage Date: 18 Mar 1860 Marriage Place: St Luke, Finsbury, Islington, England Father: Jesse James Huby (Tailor) Spouse: Jane Miller Rosewell (Spinster) Father: William Barkley Rosewell (Brewer) Witnesses: Edward ??? and Charlotte Baker Register Type: Parish Register
*** Note that Edwin does not declare his father to be deceased.....and it's not until the 1871 census that Catherine claims to be a widow***
He appears as Edward J Herby on Ancestry
From Find My Past....
1871 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription Alma Street, Halifax, Yorkshire & Yorkshire (West Riding), England
Edwin J Huby Head - Male 35 1836 Stuff Presser Yorkshire, England Jane M Huby Wife - Female 32 1839 - Sussex, England Arthur Huby Son - Male 9 1862 - Middlesex, England Herbert Huby Son - Male 6 1865 - Kent, England William Huby Son - Male 4 1867 - Kent, England Horace Huby Son - Male 2 1869 - Kent, England
Appears as James Harley on the 1881 census......
1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription 54, Allerton Road, Shoreditch, London & Middlesex, England
James Harly Head Married Male 45 1836 Yorkshire, England Warehouseman Jane Harly Wife Married Female 42 1839 Hermitage, Sussex, England - Herbert Harly Son Single Male 16 1865 City of London, Middlesex, England - William Harly Son Single Male 14 1867 Peckham, Surrey, England - Horace Harly Son Single Male 12 1869 Peckham, Surrey, England Scholar Ada Harly Daughter Single Female 8 1873 Peckham, Surrey, England Scholar Jane Harly Daughter Single Female 2 1879 Bradford, Yorkshire, England -
Appears as Edwin J Huber on Ancestry
From Find My Past.....
1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription Buckland Street, Shoreditch, London & Middlesex, England
Edwin J Huby Head Married Male 55 1836 Yorkshire, England Clothworker Jane M Huby Wife Married Female 52 1839 Sussex, England - Herbert R Huby Son Single Male 21 1870 London, Middlesex, England Electrician Horace B Huby Son Single Male 22 1869 London, Middlesex, England Electrician Ada M Huby Daughter Single Female 18 1873 Halifax, Yorkshire, England - Jane B Huby Daughter - Female 12 1879 Yorkshire, England Emma Corper Visitor Widow Female 40 1851 Essex, England Cabinet Finisher
Deaths Mar 1899 (>99%) Huby Edwin James 62 Shoreditch 1c 69
Deaths Mar 1899 (>99%) Huby Jane Millar 60 Shoreditch 1c 70
Which child of Jesse and Catherine does your Mother descend from?
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18 Mar 2018 15:03 |
Hi again to you Prickly Holly,
Who needs C.I.S ,when your on the team :-)
Mally Greenwood, Catherine's sister, I think the glass slipper fits to a "t" good on you great stuff, and its of interest to me , gives foundation to the wall so to speak and I thank you for that , although its the Huby linage that I most want to unravel, my mums parental vein.
Still not to sure on Jesse birth given as 1816, thanks Mary, could be him? both him and his father, Thomas, are noted as Tailors, were they both Yorkshire born? his mothers name would be helpful but that is work in progress
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18 Mar 2018 11:53 |
Mally appears as Mary on the census records......
1841 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription Boulder Clough, Halifax, Yorkshire & Yorkshire (West Riding), England
Wright Harwood Male 30 1811 Whitesmith Yorkshire, England Mary Harwood Female 30 1811 Yorkshire, England Emma Harwood Female 11 1830 Yorkshire, England Elizabeth Harwood Female 6 1835 Yorkshire, England Greenwood Harwood Male 5 1836 Yorkshire, England John Harwood Male 3 1838 Yorkshire, England
1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription Boulder Clough, Halifax, Yorkshire & Yorkshire (West Riding), England
Wright Harwood Head Married Male 39 1812 Whitesmith Yorkshire, England Mary Harwood Wife Married Female 42 1809 - Yorkshire, England Emma Harwood Daughter Unmarried Female 20 1831 Weaver Yorkshire, England Greenwood Harwood Son Unmarried Male 14 1837 Whitesmith Sowerby, Yorkshire, England John Harwood Son Unmarried Male 13 1838 Learning Whitesmith Sowerby, Yorkshire, England James Stedman Harwood Son Unmarried Male 11 1840 Scholar Sowerby, Yorkshire, England Mary Ann Harwood Daughter - Female 3 1848 - Sowerby, Yorkshire, England Edward Harwood Son - Male 1 1850 - Sowerby, Yorkshire, England James Harwood Male 1 1840 Yorkshire, England William Harwood Male 0 1841 Yorkshire, England
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18 Mar 2018 11:48 |
Hi again Bob
In case this is of interest to you.......
From the marriage record, we know that Catherine Greenwood's father was John Greenwood.
The witnesses to the marriage were Thomas Huby and Wright Harwood.
Wright Harwood married a Mally Greenwood in 1829.
Catherine's sister??
Mally Greenwood in the West Yorkshire, England, Church of England Marriages and Banns, 1813-1935 Name: Mally Greenwood (Spinster of Wadsworth) Event Type: Marriage Marriage Date: 9 Nov 1829 Marriage Place: Halifax, St John the Baptist, Yorkshire, England Parish: Halifax, St John the Baptist Spouse: Wright Harwood (Bachelor of Wadsworth) Whitesmith
Mally Greenwood in the England & Wales, Non-Conformist and Non-Parochial Registers, 1567-1970 Name: Mally Greenwood...Born at Colden Row, Heptonstall Birth Date: 17 Mar 1809 Birth Place: Heptonstall, Yorkshire, England Gender: Female Event Type: Birth Father: John Greenwood (Weaver) Mother: Betty Denomination: Baptist
Catherine's Baptism...
Catherine Greenwood in the West Yorkshire, England, Church of England Births and Baptisms, 1813-1910 Name: Catherine Greenwood Baptism Date: 5 Jun 1814 Baptism Place: Heptonstall, St Thomas, Yorkshire, England Parish: Heptonstall, St Thomas Father: John Greenwood (Weaver) Wadsworth Lanes, Wadsworth. Mother: Betty Greenwood
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Mary
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18 Mar 2018 09:45 |
Hi Sylvia,yes my parents died 5-6 weeks of each other. It was the page numbers that caught my eye,page 69/70.
Maryb.
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17 Mar 2018 21:21 |
Mary .......
maybe Edwin and Jane did not died at the same time, but certainly within weeks of each other.
OH's 2 x gt grandparents died 6 weeks apart, but the deaths show as being in the same quarter on Freebmd.
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17 Mar 2018 18:42 |
1861 St Giles Middlesex Edwin Herby
1871 Edwin James Herby.
1881 Shoreditch James Harly.
1891 Edwin J Huber.
Edwin James Huby dad Jesse James Huby married 18/3/1860 in Islington Middlesex to Jane Miller Rosewell.
Edwin J Huby died J/F/M 1899 in Shoreditch V1c P69
Jane M Huby also died J/F/M 1899 V1c P70 So they must have died at same time??
Maryb.
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17 Mar 2018 17:09 |
Hi Prickly Holly,
I could only find baptism records for Rebecca, Edwin & Mary, St John Halifax 1852. ( C033614) they were baptized all at the same time (all in their teens) but thanks for the info on John & Ann, this twig's turning into a branch now :-D
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17 Mar 2018 16:30 |
Mary Ann Huby married Walter Manby Richardson in 1859
Marriages Sep 1859 (>99%) Huby Mary Ann E London 1c 13 Huby Mary Anne E. London 1c 13 Richardson Walter Manby E. London 1c 13
On her marriage record, she names her father as James Huby....Occupation Tailor
Mary Anne Huby in the London, England, Church of England Marriages and Banns, 1754-1931 Name: Mary Anne Huby (Spinster) Gender: Female Record Type: Marriage Marriage Date: 11 Sep 1859 Marriage Place: St Botolph, Aldersgate, City of London, England Father: James Huby (Tailor) Spouse: Walter Manby Richardson (Bachelor) Draper Father: John Richardson (Deceased) Register Type: Parish Register
** Note that it mentions Walter's father as deceased but not Mary Ann's father! **
I have just checked the image of the 1841 census......Jesse's occupation was a Tailor.
1861 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription East Cottages, 17, Lambeth, London & Surrey, England
Walter Richardson Head Married Male 22 1839 Draper Alton, Hampshire, England Mary Ann Richardson Wife Married Female 22 1839 - Huddersfield, Yorkshire, England Alfred Richardson Son Unmarried Male 0 1861 - London, Middlesex, England
The son Alfred, was actually born Frederick Alfred...
RICHARDSON, FREDERICK ALFRED MMN HUBY GRO Reference: 1859 D Quarter in WEST LONDON Volume 01C Page 46
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17 Mar 2018 16:13 |
Hi Bob
The last child born on the 1841 census was John Thomas born 1840..died 1842
The child before him was Mary Ann born 1838
HUBY, MARY ANN MMN GREENWOOD GRO Reference: 1838 D Quarter in HUDDERSFIELD UNION Volume 22 Page 353
Prickles ;o))
Edit: I see Mary was baptised with the middle name of Hannah.
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17 Mar 2018 16:04 |
Hi, Prickly Polly
1871 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription, Catherine Heely ? I've got Census for 1851 & 1881, Both have her as Huby, possibly the census taker had hearing prob or to much local ale :-D Jesse seems to be a phantom, cant find him anywhere apart from Marriage 1833 Halifax, last child born was Mary Hannah 1836, Jesse did he do off or died ??? You given me a lot of info I did not know, thank you for that its appreciated.
Cheers for now
Bob
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17 Mar 2018 15:39 |
I have been trying for over an hour to find Catherine Huby on the 1861 census
.Her surname has been transcribed as "Puby" on Ancestry but, if you check out the image, it does look more like "Huby"
1861 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription 19, Middle Street, St Bartholomew the Great, West London (City of London), London & Middlesex, England
(Married daughter Rebecca is living at No 3 Middle Street on the 1861 census)
William Kimber Head Widower Male 46 1815 Warehouseman Berkshire, England Mary A Kimber Daughter Unmarried Female 18 1843 - Berkshire, England Catherine Puby 45 Married Tailoress Yorkshire (Age possibly 41 on the image)
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