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Bruce
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8 Mar 2018 21:05 |
Joseph Frost was baptised on 7.8.1791 at Duffield, Derby, Derbyshire. His children's mother is shown as Charlotte Can anyone find his marriage to Charlotte. His first child I have found was born in 1822. He lived and worked in St Johns Square Clerkenwell and East London.
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Catherine
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8 Mar 2018 21:17 |
from a tree on ancestry
Joseph Frost
Birth: 1791 - Derbyshire, England Death: 1857 Marriage: 13 Sep 1818 - Islington, England Spouse: Charlotte Gandar
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Catherine
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8 Mar 2018 21:17 |
Name: Joseph Frost Gender: Male Record Type: Banns (Bann) Marriage Banns Date: 13 Sep 1818 Marriage Banns Place: St Mary, Islington, Islington, England Spouse: Charlotte Gandar Register Type: Parish Register
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Catherine
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8 Mar 2018 21:20 |
Is this the family in 1841 ?
Name: Joseph Frost Age: 49 Estimated birth year: abt 1792 Gender: Male Civil Parish: St James Clerkenwell Hundred: Ossulstone (Finsbury Division) County/Island: Middlesex Country: England Street address: Occupation: View image Registration district: Clerkenwell Sub-registration district: St James Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 661 Book: 5 Folio: 14 Page Number: 21 Household Members: Name Age Joseph Frost 49 James Frost 19 Charlotte Frost 17 Eliza Frost 15 Emma Frost 13 Sarah Frost 11 William Frost 9 Martha Frost 7
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Catherine
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8 Mar 2018 21:23 |
Name: James Frost Birth Date: 31 Jan 1822 Birth Place: St Johns Clerkenwell, Middlesex, England Event Type: Birth Father: Joseph Frost Mother: Charlotte Gandar Piece Title: Piece 4665-1: Dr Williams' Library Registry, Birth Certificates, 1824-1827
Name: Charlotte Frost Birth Date: 15 Oct 1823 Birth Place: St Johns Clerkenwell, Middlesex, England Event Type: Birth Father: Joseph Frost Mother: Charlotte Gandar Piece Title: Piece 4665-1: Dr Williams' Library Registry, Birth Certificates, 1824-1827
Name: Eliza Frost Birth Date: 29 Apr 1825 Birth Place: St Johns Clerkenwell, Middlesex, England Event Type: Birth Father: Joseph Frost Mother: Charlotte Gandar Piece Title: Piece 4665-1: Dr Williams' Library Registry, Birth Certificates, 1824-1827
Name: Emma Frost Birth Date: 14 Mar 1827 Birth Place: St Johns Clerkenwell, Middlesex, England Event Type: Birth Father: Joseph Frost Mother: Charlotte Gandar Piece Title: Piece 4665-1: Dr Williams' Library Registry, Birth Certificates, 1824-1827
NAME: Sarah Ann Frost MOTHER: Charlotte Gandar FATHER: Joseph Frost BIRTH: 17 Jul 1829 - Clerkenwell, Middlesex, England
NAME: William Joseph Frost MOTHER: Charlotte Gandar FATHER: Joseph Frost BIRTH: 5 Jun 1831 - Clerkenwell, Middlesex, England
NAME: Martha Maria Frost MOTHER: Charlotte Gandar FATHER: Joseph Frost BIRTH: 19 Nov 1833 - Clerkenwell, Middlesex, England
NAME: Clara Frost MOTHER: Charlotte Gandar FATHER: Joseph Frost BIRTH: 2 Mar 1836 - Clerkenwell, Middlesex, England
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Bruce
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8 Mar 2018 21:28 |
Catherine Many thanks Yes that is the correct 1841 census record. and that will be his first marriage. Have you any record of his second marriage to Christian Ann Lock in Jul Sep 1845. I have the GRO reference for the marriage
The tree on Ancestry does it show the death of Charlotte or the death date of Joseph in 1857
Once again many thanks for your help.
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Catherine
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8 Mar 2018 21:31 |
As Charlotte is not with the family in 1841, possible death??
Name: Charlotte Frost Registration Year: 1838 Registration Quarter: Apr-May-Jun Registration district: Clerkenwell Parishes for this Registration District: View Ecclesiastical Parishes associated with this Registration District Inferred County: London Volume: 3 Page: 55
Name: Charlotte Frost Age: 41 Record Type: Burial Death Date: abt 1838 Burial Date: 3 Jun 1838 Burial Place: St John, Clerkenwell, Islington, England Register Type: Parish Register
states aged 41yrs, so born abt. 1797
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Catherine
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8 Mar 2018 21:35 |
Last born child Clara Frost's death
Name: Clara Frost Age: 5 Record Type: Burial Death Date: abt 1841 Burial Date: 7 Mar 1841 Burial Place: St John, Clerkenwell, Islington, England Register Type: Parish Register
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Catherine
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8 Mar 2018 21:37 |
1851 for ref:-
Name: Joseph Frost Age: 60 Estimated birth year: abt 1791 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Christianna Frost Gender: Male Where born: Derbyshire, England Civil Parish: St Botolph Bishopsgate County/Island: Middlesex Country: England Street address: Occupation: Condition as to marriage: Disability: View image Registration district: East London Sub-registration district: St Botolph ED, institution, or vessel: 2c Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 124 Piece: 1524 Folio: 440 Page Number: 28 Household Members: Name Age Joseph Frost 60 Christianna Frost 51 James Frost 29 Elizabeth Frost 23 Infant under 1 Mo Charlotte Frost 27 Eliza Frost 25 Emma Frost 24 Sarah Ann Frost 21 Martha Frost 17 Louisa Slater 62
so still living in 1851
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Bruce
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8 Mar 2018 21:38 |
Catherine
Many thanks. That is no doubt the correct death. They were living and working in Clerkenwell.
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Catherine
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8 Mar 2018 21:39 |
Possible death
Name: Joseph Frost Age: 66 Record Type: Burial Death Date: abt 1857 Burial Date: 25 Nov 1857 Burial Place: St James, St Pancras, Camden, England Register Type: Bishop's Transcript
makes date of birth abt. 1791
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Catherine
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8 Mar 2018 21:41 |
Not the marriage but the banns
Name: Joseph Frost (Widow) Record Type: Banns (Bann) Marriage Banns Date: 6 Jul 1845 Marriage Banns Place: St George the Martyr, Southwark, England Spouse: Christian Ann Lock (Widower) Register Type: Parish Register
........so not Christiana , but 'Christian Ann'
Marriages Sep 1845 (>99%) Carter Eliza Islington 3 187 CASSON Mary Ann Islington 3 187 xxxxx FROST Joseph Islington 3 187 xxxxx xxxxx Lock Christian Ann Islington 3 187 xxxxx Thomson Matthew Islington 3 187 Walton Charlotte Islington 3 187 Williams Solomon Islington 3 187 Wood Charles William Islington 3 187
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Bruce
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8 Mar 2018 21:45 |
I have found his death in the last few minutes on Findmypast. He was buried on 16.11.1857 in Highgate Cemetery. He is shown on the record as a muggletonian. It is through that extreme religious following that I am interested.
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Catherine
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8 Mar 2018 21:47 |
Sorry Bruce so busy posting what I found I didn't see your postings. :-)
Have checked the ancestry tree but they don't have an exact date of death.
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Bruce
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8 Mar 2018 21:51 |
No problem, I am extremely grateful for your help.
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Catherine
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8 Mar 2018 22:01 |
Ancestry shows burial as 25 Nov so wonder if he actually died on the 16th Nov
I can only see one Joseph Frost who died in last quarter of 1857 so must be the same one. You may have to buy a copy of the death cert. to find out the exact date.
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Bruce
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8 Mar 2018 22:19 |
Findmypast is only a transcription so cannot be verified from their record which is correct.
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Catherine
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8 Mar 2018 22:35 |
I'm off to bed now so hope will look in again tomorrow to see if there is anything else you need. Good luck.
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Chris Ho :)
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9 Mar 2018 10:58 |
As 25th on Image (Ancestry) Abode, 17 Half Moon St. Bishopsgate. (not seeing 'Muggletonian')
Perhaps there was a Gravestone.
(also on below)
https://www.deceasedonline.com/
Chris :)
http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/results/r?_q=muggletonian
(is that him on above?, held at British Library, they also have below)
https://tinyurl.com/y9zjpmce
(Author: Joseph FROST, and (Isaac) Contributor: Isaac FROST Muggletonian)
Death FROST, ISAAC (65) GRO Reference: 1858 D Quarter in ISLINGTON Volume 01B Page 181
https://tinyurl.com/yb9nqno3
(quite a few things on google search, Joseph and Isaac above)
(above Burial on D Online Link, Camden) (also Ancestry, Abode, Tavistock Terrace, Upper Holloway, Islington)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muggletonianism
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Bruce
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9 Mar 2018 19:23 |
Many thanks Chris
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