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Glyn
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27 Feb 2018 16:03 |
On the 1871 census record for Joseph and Mary Parslow ( also spelt Parsloe) from Milton under Wychwood Oxon it lists two children. One is Frederick, the other Spencer. All the family for generations have lived in this area of the Cotswolds and Spencer has never been a family name. It says Spencer was born in Spencer, Iowa. Very odd!! Some members of the family emigrated in 1874 to New Zealand, but they never returned. This entry looks as though the family went to Iowa and came back, but they were poor, Joseph an ag. lab. And this wasn’t normal for those days. Can anyone shed light on this mysterious entry please? Glyn
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27 Feb 2018 16:11 |
1861 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription Cottage, Lower Milton, Milton, Chipping Norton, Oxfordshire, England
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place Joseph Parsloe Head Married Male 33 1828 Plasterer Milton, Oxfordshire, England Transcription Mary A Parsloe Wife - Female 30 1831 - Swerford, Oxfordshire, England Transcription Frederick Parsloe Son - Male 5 1856 Scholar Milton, Oxfordshire, England Transcription Spencer Parsloe Son - Male 0 1861 - - Born in USA (NY)
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27 Feb 2018 16:12 |
1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription 14, Forest Terrace, Gloucester, Gloucestershire, England
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Birth place Occupation Spencer Parsloe Head Married Male 40 1861 - Plasterer Transcription Born USA Annie Parsloe Wife Married Female 48 1853 Gloucestershire, England - Transcription William E Perks Step Son Single Male 16 1885 Gloucestershire, England General Labourer Transcription Elizabeth B Perks Step Daughter Single Female 15 1886 Gloucestershire, England - Transcription James H Perks Step Son Single Male 13 1888 Gloucestershire, England - Transcription Elsie M Perks Step Daughter Single Female 7 1894 Gloucestershire, England - Transcription John Perks Brother-In-Law Single Male 42 1859 Gloucestershire, England General Labourer Transcription
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Catherine
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27 Feb 2018 16:15 |
1871 (for info)
Name: Joseph Parsloe Age: 44 Estimated birth year: abt 1827 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Mary Ann Parsloe Gender: Male Where born: Lyneham, Oxfordshire, England Civil Parish: Milton Town: Milton County/Island: Oxfordshire Country: England Registration district: Chipping Norton Sub-registration district: Charlbury ED, institution, or vessel: 12 Household schedule number: 168 Piece: 1456 Folio: 64 Page Number: 31 Household Members: Name Age Joseph Parsloe 44 Mary Ann Parsloe 35 Frederick Parsloe 15
Sperner Parsloe 10 born: NY, Sponde Town (original says born New York, Spencer Town, B.S.)
Lindon Parsloe 8 Adolphe Parsloe 6 Leonard Parsloe 4 Alice Kate Parsloe 2
[ If you google Spencertown, New York, you will see that the place does exist]
1861 Name: Spener Parsloe Age: 10/12 Estimated birth year: 1860 Relation: Son Father's name: Joseph Parsloe Mother's name: Mary A Parsloe Gender: Male
Where born: NY British Subjt, Spencer, United States
Civil Parish: Milton Ecclesiastical parish: Milton and Shipton County/Island: Oxfordshire Country: England Street address: Occupation: Condition as to marriage: View image Registration district: Chipping Norton Sub-registration district: Charlbury ED, institution, or vessel: 12 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 117 Piece: 910 Folio: 38 Page Number: 21 Household Members: Name Age Joseph Parsloe 33 Mary A Parsloe 30 Frederick Parsloe 5 Spener Parsloe 10/12
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Catherine
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27 Feb 2018 16:16 |
ancestry gives this link, but I don't have worldwide
New York, Passenger Lists, 1820-1957 Mary Ann Parslve
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Maddie
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27 Feb 2018 16:17 |
1891 also says born in the USA SO DOES 1861 CENSUS Cottage, Lower Milton, Milto n, Chipping Norton, Oxfordshire, England
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place Joseph Parsloe Head Married Male 33 1828 Plasterer Milton, Oxfordshire, England Transcription Mary A Parsloe Wife - Female 30 1831 - Swerford, Oxfordshire, England Transcription Frederick Parsloe Son - Male 5 1856 Scholar Milton, Oxfordshire, England Transcription Spencer Parsloe Son - Male 0 1861 -
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Maddie
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27 Feb 2018 16:25 |
Name: Mary Ann Parslve Arrival Date: 10 Apr 1860 Birth Date: abt 1832 Age: 28 Gender: Female Ethnicity/ Nationality: British (English) Place of Origin: Great Britain Port of Departure: Liverpool, England Destination: United States of America Port of Arrival: New York, New York Ship Name: Thornton Search Ship Database: Search for the Thornton in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
WITH HUSBAND JOS aged 31 and children fred aged 5 and rosina aged 3
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Maddie
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27 Feb 2018 16:42 |
ame: Mother's Maiden Surname: Order: PARSLOC, ROSINA FIELD Order GRO Reference: 1857 J Quarter in CHIPPING NORTON Volume 03A Page 587
PARSLOE, FREDERICK FIELD Order GRO Reference: 1855 S Quarter in CHIPPING NORTON Volume 03A Page 545
JOSEPH Last name PARSLOE Marriage quarter 4 Marriage year 1850 Registration month - MarriageFinder™ JOSEPH PARSLOE married Mary Ann Field District Chipping Norton District number - County Oxfordshire
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Catherine
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27 Feb 2018 16:44 |
Thanks Maddie, that certainly looks like them leaving home. :-) :-
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Catherine
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27 Feb 2018 16:46 |
Here they are on the 1860 US census
Name: Joseph Parslow Event Type: Census Event Date: 1860 Event Place: Spencer, Tioga, New York, United States Gender: Male Age: 32 Race: White Birth Year (Estimated): 1828 Birthplace: England Page: 36 Household Role Sex Age Birthplace Joseph Parslow Male 32 England May Ann Parslow Female 26 England Fredrick Parslow Male 5 England Rosanna Parslow Female 3 England William Parslow Male 0 New York
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Chris Ho :)
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27 Feb 2018 16:51 |
Back by below date!...
Chris :)
09 July 1864 - Oxford Times - Oxford, Oxfordshire, England
SUPPOSED Poacher - Joseph Parsloe, of Milton, slater and plasterer, was charged by P. C. Cooper, under the new Game Act, with being found on the highway at Bruern, with a gun and two rabbits in his possession. Fined £1 including costs. Paid.
http://www.pratley.info/person/detail.php?person=2143
(looks to relate to wife of Spencer)
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Catherine
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27 Feb 2018 16:55 |
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:939V-559T-RS?i=402&cc=1849782
(follow the link to see the original)
Jos Parsloe New York Passenger Lists, 1820-1891 birth: 1829 Great Britain immigration: 1860 New York City, New York, United States Mary Ann Parsloe New York Passenger Lists, 1820-1891 birth: 1832 Great Britain immigration: 1860 New York City, New York, United States Fred Parsloe New York Passenger Lists, 1820-1891 birth: 1855 Great Britain immigration: 1860 New York City, New York, United States Rosina Parsloe New York Passenger Lists, 1820-1891 birth: 1857 Great Britain immigration: 1860 New York City, New York, United States
Looks like the family went over to New York in 1860 and came home pretty quickly. Not surprising though when you know that the American Civil War started in 1861 and the gouvernement were looking for volonteers to go and fight.
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Glyn
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27 Feb 2018 19:08 |
That’s fantastic everyone. Thank you. That explains the quick return as they wouldn’t want to be embroiled in the American Civil War. Great help
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Glyn
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28 Feb 2018 22:33 |
That was a great amount of information. When I was reading through it I see that when they sailed to New York they had Fred and Rosina. Then in New York on 1860 census they have William as well. The following year they have Spencer. When they return to Milton under Wychwood and are on 1861 census they only have Fred and Spencer. Does anyone have a record for ( what I assume to be) the deaths of Rosina and William, probably in New York.
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rootgatherer
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28 Feb 2018 22:55 |
Is it possible that William and Spencer are the same person? William must have been born after the family left England as he's not on the passenger list and Spencer is only 10 months old on the 1861 census.
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mgnv
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1 Mar 2018 03:52 |
1860 https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MCHZ-QQ8 [with free image link] [nominal census day 1/6/1860]
1861 https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M7L7-QQH [nominal census day 7/4/1861]
The opening shot of the ACW - "the shot heard round the world" as Americans say with typical modesty - was 12/4/1861
Looking at 1860 image, William was 2m old on 2/8/1860 (the day they were actually enumerated), so likely born in May, which would make him 10 m old at the beginning of the following April.
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Glyn
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1 Mar 2018 09:59 |
Great thanks for that! So William and Spencer are the same child. Sadly it does look as though Rosina ( or Roseanna as she appears on the 1860 census) died before they returned to the U.K. Don’t you agree? I can’t find any record of her death but as she’s not on 1861 or subsequent census that seems the logical conclusion. What bad timing for potentially emigrating to USA
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1 Mar 2018 13:34 |
Spencer is mentioned quite a few times in the papers of the day. Here are a few snippits.
HUSBAND AND WIFE. Spencer Parsloe, 18, Forest-terrace, Rtroud-road wus summoned by his wife, Annie Parsloe, 14, Forest-terrace, for failing to maintain 29 September 1925 - Gloucester Citizen - Gloucester, Gloucestershire, England
At Gloucester City Petty Sessions on Tuesday—before the Mayor (Mr. William Jones) in the chair, and other magistrates—Spencer Parsloe, of 42. New-street Gloucester, was summoned for being £16 2s. 6d. including costs, in arrear a maintenance order made 23 October 1926 - Gloucester Journal - Gloucester, Gloucestershire, England
POLICE-COURT PROCEEDINGS. Spencer Parsloe, master plasterer, living Forest-terrace, Stroud-road, was placed in the dock at the Gloucester City Police-court, on Wednesday, charged with attempted suicide on September 25 September 1901 - Gloucester Citizen - Gloucester, Gloucestershire, England
Before the Chipping Norton County Magistrates on Wednesday, Spencer Parsloe, plasterer, Miltonunder-Wychwood, Oxfordshire, was charged with refusing to ouit the Great Western Railway when requested, ana also with interfering 09 August 1890 - Gloucester Journal - Gloucester, Gloucestershire, England
Richard Morris, of Great Rissington, sawyer, and Spencer Parsloe, of Miltonunder-Wychwood, slater and plasterer, were charged by P.C. Collins with being drunk and disorderly on 14th inst 02 January 1892 - Wilts and Gloucestershire Standard - Cirencester, Gloucestershire, Eng
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Glyn
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1 Mar 2018 22:51 |
Thank you. That’s really interesting
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