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Thanks chris and Argyll gran very much.xxx

Perhaps read through, to make sure you have noted things (goes back quite a way!).

Chris :)

Hi all I would like to thank you all so much for you kind and hard work.I would not of known where to look without you all.Once again thank you so much.Now to the sorting out.lol xxx :-)

(yes, too many George the Butchers, lol)

Chris :)

Not necessarily, Carol - there was more than one George Page of about the right age in Suffolk, either butchers or poulterers or both.

George was a Butcher so it must be him.

Maybe this is a possibility ?



George Page
in the 1891 England Census
Name: George Page
Gender: Male
Age: 48
Relationship: Lodger
Birth Year: 1843
Birth Place: Debenham, Suffolk, England
Civil Parish: St Peter
Residence Place: Ipswich, St Peter, Suffolk, England
Sub registration district: Ipswich Western
ED, Institution or Vessel: 15
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 1468
Folio: 12
Household Members:
Name Age
Matilda Smith 37
Alice Maud Smith 9
George Wm Smith 7
Rose Eden Smith 5
George Page 48 - butcher and dealer, married
Phabe Laean 71


Or maybe not! think I'll give up on this!

George Page
in the 1881 England Census
Name: George Page
Age: 36
Estimated birth year: abt 1845
Relationship to Head: Head
Spouse: Matilda Page
Gender: Male
Where born: Debenham, Suffolk, England
Civil Parish: Ipswich St Peter
County/Island: Suffolk
Country: England
Street address: 5 Little Whip St
Marital Status: Married
Education:
Employment status:
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Occupation: Butcher <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Registration district: Ipswich
ED, institution, or vessel: 16
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 1870
Folio: 100
Page Number: 33
Household Members:
Name Age
George Page 36
Matilda Page 28


George Page
in the 1861 England Census
Name: George Page
Age: 16
Estimated birth year: 1845
Relation: Lodger
Gender: Male
Where born: Debenham, Suffolk, England
Civil Parish: Ipswich St Matthew
Town: Ipswich
County/Island: Suffolk
Country: England
Street address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
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Registration district: Ipswich
Sub-registration district: St Matthew
ED, institution, or vessel: 6
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 133
Piece: 1161
Folio: 111
Page Number: 21
Household Members:
Name Age
Joseph Pooley 26
Mary Ann Pooley 27
Joseph Pooley 5
Hannah Pooley 1
George Page 16 - fowl dealer
Samuel Page 20
Henry Page 18
William Pooler 24
Sarah Pooler 24


I don't see a marriage to Matilda.

On the other hand I don't see him in 1871, the only census when Elizabeth's husband is with her.

There were far too many George Pages in Suffolk involved in butchery or the poultry business!

Ah, well, maybe George of Crowfield isn't the right one ??
This looks like him in 1871, when the Ipswich George is with his wife Elizabeth.

George Page
in the 1871 England Census
Name: George Page
Age: 27
Estimated birth year: abt 1844
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Ellen Page
Gender: Male
Where born: Crowfield, Suffolk, England
Civil Parish: Pettaugh
County/Island: Suffolk
Country: England
Registration district: Bosmere
Sub-registration district: Coddenham
ED, institution, or vessel: 16
Household schedule number: 38
Piece: 1743
Folio: 78
Page Number: 7
Household Members:
Name Age
George Page 27 - Poulterer
Ellen Page 24


Marriages Jun 1870 (>99%)
HAILS Ellen Bosmere 4a 797
Page George Bosmere 4a 797


PAGE, ALFRED ARTHUR GEORGE mms HAILS
GRO Reference: 1880 S Quarter in BOSMERE Volume 04A Page 658

A butcher

(what does it give for occ. of George?...)

Chris :)

Edits (well 1851 George (Pork Butcher) Crowfield, with Louisa, and son George...

(then below, a Butcher born Debenham (near Crowfield)

George 1845 — 1881 1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census Ipswich St Peter, Ipswich, Suffolk, England

(apologies, bit quick as haven't got time, until Morning!)

(Butcher, Fowl Merchant/Dealer...Fowl Dealer 1891, Butcher at Annie Marriage 1894, did she really know what he was doing, lol, if this George is her Father, that is!)


(and hopes AQ sees result of that 1894 Marriage find, lol)

I wonder if it is the same person.Thank you so much for your help.

(adds below, but quickly, can't stay!)

Chris :)

Suffolk Baptism Index 1538-1911 Transcription (Find My Past)

First name(s) George
Last name Page
Birth year 1846
Baptism year 1846
Baptism date 07 Jun 1846
Parish Crowfield, All Saints
Place Crowfield
Father's first name(s) George
Mothers first name(s) Louisa
Father's occupation Fowl Merchant
Residence Crowfield
Notes bn 7 Jun 1843


(hope not him below!, from google search)

The London Gazette - Part 2 - Page 1885 - Google Books Result
https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=khlKAQAAMAAJ

Great Britain - 1843 - ?Gazettes
George Page, late of Crowfield, near Debenham, Suffolk, Farming Labourer—In the Gaol of Ipswich,


02 February 1888 - The Ipswich Journal - Ipswich, Suffolk, England

George Page, Crowfield, was summoned in regard to the maintenance of his son in the Asylum. Mr. Gooding said the son was an inmate of Melton Asylum...
Defendant had been a great deal of trouble, he was a dealer in fowls, and had a horse and cart...


Page Louisa 1824 1887 (Buried 5th May) National Burial Index For England & Wales Crowfield, Suffolk, England

Page George 1810 1898 (Buried 24th Dec) National Burial Index For England & Wales Crowfield, Suffolk, England

Oh my goodness thank you so much.I found his christening 7 june 1846 x

According to George's probable death record, he was born c1845, and according to 1871 census, born c1843 in Ipswich.


This might perhaps be him in 1861. I THINK his occupation is given as Dealer in Fowl:


George Page
in the 1861 England Census
Name: George Page
Age: 18
Estimated birth year: 1843
Relation: Son
Father's name: George Page
Mother's name: Lousia Page
Gender: Male
Where born: Crowfield, Suffolk, England
Civil Parish: Crowfield
County/Island: Suffolk
Country: England
Street address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
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Registration district: Bosmere
Sub-registration district: Coddenham
ED, institution, or vessel: 7
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 60
Piece: 1155
Folio: 91
Page Number: 10
Household Members:
Name Age
George Page 50
Lousia Page 41
Harriet Page 21
George Page 18
Walter Page 16
Herbert Page 13
Fredick Page 11
Arthur Page 8
Ebenezer Page 5


And 1851:


George Page
in the 1851 England Census
Name: George Page
Age: 8
Estimated birth year: abt 1843
Relation: Son
Father's name: George Page
Mother's name: Louisa Page
Gender: Male
Where born: Crowfield, Suffolk, England
Civil Parish: Crowfield
Phillimore Ecclesiastical Parish Maps:
View related Ecclesiastical Parish
County/Island: Suffolk
Country: England
Street address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Disability:
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Registration district: Bosmere
Sub-registration district: Coddenham
ED, institution, or vessel: 9
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 43
Piece: 1797
Folio: 180
Page Number: 11
Household Members:
Name Age
George Page 37
Louisa Page 32
Harriett Page 12
Alfred Page 10
George Page 8
Walter Page 5
Herbert Page 3
Frederick Page 7 Mo


Parents' marriage ??

Marriages Jun 1839 (>99%)
GOSLING Louisa Bosmere &c. 12 431
PAGE George Bosmere &c. 12 431


PAGE, EBENEZIER mms GOSLING
GRO Reference: 1856 S Quarter in BOSMERE AND CLAYDON Volume 04A Page 477


PAGE, ALFRED mms GOSTLING
GRO Reference: 1841 M Quarter in BOSMERE AND CLAYDON UNION Volume 12 Page 335

PAGE, WALTER mms GOSLING
GRO Reference: 1845 D Quarter in BOSMERE & CLAYDON UNION Volume 12 Page 293


I don't see George's birth.

So we are fine now we have the Parents Her father was a Butcher.Thank you so much for your help.x

So what are we looking for now?!

1871 and 1881 censuses for Annie are posted on page 4, and she is with James in 1901 and 1911 - also posted previously.

Her parents' marriage cert should tell you more about them - copied again here:

Marriages Dec 1864 (>99%)
Page George Ipswich 4a 1368
Smith Elizabeth Ipswich 4a 1368

Also Annie's probable birth cert (copied here from page 4) will give more info:

PAGE, ALICE mms SMITH
GRO Reference: 1869 M Quarter in IPSWICH Volume 04A Page 627

witnesses are searles and Taylor.James and Annie lived at 134 Elizabeth street at the time of Marriage.

(ooerr!, now is that a good or bad thing, lol lol)...

Chris :)

(any witness names that relate?)

Hi Chris and Argyll Gran
I have the Marriage certificate at last James father is Hobart and Annie is George.
The Mistry is solving .So Elizabeth and George are her Parents.

My good ness had to go to hospital yesterday and look what has happened. I will be glad when certificate comes .This is driving everyone crazy. Thank you so much AG and Chris I appreciate all you are doing.xx