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my granddads sister oswald turner martha florence turner birth 21 aug 1914 death 1982 stratford e 15 age 68married george william scarborough had children no one was sheila i cant seem to find her also a jessie born 1881 i think was my granddads sister thank you

Hi Susan,

Your post is a bit jumbled so I'm not quite sure what you are looking for.

Is it Sheila Scarborough's birth. If so there is this one:-

First name(s) SHEILA
Last name SCARBOROUGH
Birth year 1936
Birth quarter 1
Registration month -
Mother's last name Turner
District West Ham
County Essex
Country England
Volume 4A
Page 22
Record set England & Wales Births 1837-2006

If this is the correct one then there are 5 other births in West Ham between 1931 and 1949 with surname Scarborough and mother's maiden name Turner.

Kath. x

Your post is very difficult to understand. A little punctuation would help.


Marriages Mar 1931 (>99%)

Scarborough George W Turner W.Ham 4a 432
Turner Martha F Scarborough W.Ham 4a 432

Possible children?


Births Dec 1931 (>99%)

Scarborough George W Turner W.Ham 4a 7 Scan available - click to view


Births Mar 1933 (>99%)

Scarborough Dorothy J Turner W. Ham 4a 128 Scan available - click to view


Births Sep 1934 (>99%)

Scarborough Ronald L Turner W. Ham 4a 112 Scan available - click to view


Births Mar 1936 (>99%)

SCARBOROUGH Sheila Turner W.Ham 4a 22 Scan available - click to view


Births Sep 1937 (>99%)

Scarborough Dennis G Turner W.Ham 4a 29 Scan available - click to view

thank you as i said i know they had a sheila maybe a george after his dad thank you

sorry martha florence turner ,married george scarborough . this was my granddads sister he was oswald turner . i think there sister was jessie born in 1881 .

is sheila still alive please i know she had a few children as well thank you

Martha F Scarborough on the 1939 Register

1939 Register Transcription

Scarborough Household (5 People) 45 Cullum Street , West Ham C.B., Essex, England
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First name(s) Last name(s) DOB Sex Occupation Marital status Schedule Schedule Sub Number
Martha F Scarborough 30 Aug 1914 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married 102 2
George W Scarborough 09 Jun 1911 Male Public Works Contractors Labou Married 102 1
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Have you tried to find anything yourself by using freebmd?

yes thats where i found martha and georges birth and death

they lived in manby road stratford e15 when she died

There is a marriage for a Sheila Scarborough in West Ham in 1956 to a Charles G. Copping.

If this is "your" Sheila then there is a death in 2002 in Essex for that name.

This is the marriage:-

England & Wales marriages 1837-2005

First name(s) SHEILA
Last name SCARBOROUGH
Marriage quarter 3
Marriage year 1956
Registration month -
MarriageFinder™ SHEILA SCARBOROUGH married
Charles G Copping
Spouse's last name Copping
District West Ham
District number -
County Essex
Country England
Volume 5A
Volume as transcribed 5A
Page number 1749
Record set England & Wales Marriages 1837-2005

and this is the death:-

England & Wales deaths 1837-2007

First name(s) SHEILA
Last name COPPING
Gender Female
Birth day 15
Birth month 12
Birth year 1935
Age -
Death quarter 2
Death year 2002
District Havering
District number 2341A
Register number HA89
Entry number 264
Date of registration mm/yy 0402
County Essex
Country England
Record set England & Wales Deaths 1837-2007

There are these births that would appear to be from the marriage:-

First name(s) BARRY D
Last name COPPING
Birth year 1958
Birth quarter 1
Registration month -
Mother's last name Scarborough
District West Ham
County Essex
Country England
Volume 5A
Page 847
Record set England & Wales Births 1837-2006

and:-

First name(s) LYNN J
Last name COPPING
Birth year 1958
Birth quarter 4
Registration month -
Mother's last name Scarborough
District West Ham
County Essex
Country England
Volume 5A
Page 719
Record set England & Wales Births 1837-2006
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records

and:-

First name(s) LESLEY C
Last name COPPING
Birth year 1961
Birth quarter 1
Registration month -
Mother's last name Scarborough
District West Ham
County Essex
Country England
Volume 5A
Page 838
Record set England & Wales Births 1837-2006

and:-

First name(s) TINA EILEEN
Last name COPPING
Birth year 1967
Birth quarter 4
Registration month -
Mother's last name Scarborough
District West Ham
County Essex
Country England
Volume 5E
Page 934
Record set England & Wales Births 1837-2006
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records

Kath. x

thank you so much

I have amended my post above as I posted Barry's birth twice and missed off Lynn's.

Sorry.

Kath. x

TURNER, MARTHA FLORENCE mms RICHARDSON
GRO Reference: 1914 D Quarter in WEST HAM Volume 04A Page 11


There were two Oswalds who both died in infancy - I don't see a third one who could be your grandfather. When was he born? Perhaps Oswald wasn't his official name?:


Births Dec 1912 (>99%)
TURNER Oswald Richardson W.Ham 4a 65

Births Jun 1916 (>99%)
Turner Oswald A Richardson W. Ham 4a 59


Deaths Mar 1913 (>99%)
Turner Oswald 0 W. Ham 4a 35

Deaths Sep 1916 (>99%)
Turner Oswald A 0 W.Ham 4a 228


I don't see the birth of a Jessie c1881, assuming they had the same mother.
It seems like a very big age gap.



EDIT:

Perhaps this is your grandfather, if Oswald was his middle name ??

Births Mar 1922 (>99%)
Turner Ernest O (mms Richardson ) W.Ham 4a 82

Do you know Oswald's parents' first names?

my grand father was horace william born25th july 1909

parents catherine richardson and henry turner

hi are lesley lynn and barry marthas or sheila children i know tina was sheilas

Was Oswald Owen Turner 1883 -1961 the father of your William Horace Turner,
he was also under the name of Oswald Owen 1891/1901 according to tree on Ancestry.

Would this be your tree,as the owner has your name??
Do you know why the name change happened?


Oswald turner 1883 mum nee Pearson.

Maryb

https://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1326939

(think above relates)

Chris :)


https://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1366353

(above has 'Jessie' reference, as below)


AustinQ Report 21 May 2017 16:16

1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
High Street, Hackney, London, England

Henry Owen Head Married Male 45 1846 Fish Dealer London (NK), Middlesex, England
Mary Ann Owen Wife Married Female 38 1853 Monmouthshire (NK), Wales
Olive Owen Daughter - Female 12 1879 Scholar Camberwell, Surrey, England
Jessie Owen Daughter - Female 10 1881 Scholar Clerkenwel London, Middlesex, England
Minnie Owen Daughter - Female 9 1882 Scholar , London, Middlesex, England
Oswald Owen Son - Male 7 1884 Scholar Bow, London, Middlesex, England
Horace Wm Owen Son - Male 5 1886 Scholar London, Middlesex, England
Albert Victor Owen Son - Male 3 1888 Scholar Bermondsey, Surrey, England
William John Owen Son - Male 7 months 1891 Homerton, London, Middlesex, England
Edward Benstead Boarder Married Male 46 1845 Fish Dealer Sussex, England


Edits (as you stated on Henry Turner 'Thread' yesterday, his second Marriage below)

Marriages Dec 1874 (>99%)
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Pearson Mary Ann Holborn 1b 1069


Birth
TURNER, JESSY (PEARSON)
GRO Reference: 1881 M Quarter in HOLBORN Volume 01B Page 731