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26 Jan 2018 07:51 |
My grandmother, Florence Holloway, married an ANZAC from New Zealand in the 1st World War. He survived and they were married for many years. Her sister, VOILET MARY HOLLOWAY 1898-1957, also married an ANZAC from Australia. Sadly he died in 1917 the year they were married. I think Violet went to Australia as she had a baby girl, named Peggy ( I think). She did return to Wiltshire and I think she died in Urchfont.
It’s a sad story, and I know other people had the same tragedy. I would like to trace what happened to Violet, but also what became of her child. Her husband’s name was THOMAS WHITE and he died in 1917.
Thank you Glyn
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26 Jan 2018 07:59 |
Born late 1897:
1939 White Household (4 People) 89 Mortimer Street , Trowbridge U.D., Wiltshire, England
Violet M White 10 Dec 1897 Female Packer Steriliser Milk Factory Widowed Sorry, this record is officially closed. Sorry, this record is officially closed. Sorry, this record is officially closed. --------------------------------
Violet's death: First name(s) VIOLET MARY Last name WHITE Gender Female Birth day 10 Birth month 12 Birth year 1897 Death quarter 1 Death year 1984 District Trowbridge Register number 184 County Wiltshire Volume 23 Page 2431
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26 Jan 2018 08:01 |
As well as Peggy there are also possible births for two sons- all children born after Thomas death.
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26 Jan 2018 08:06 |
Possible death for Peggy (married Ernest Lyte in 1944, and married again to John Doherty in 1955):
First name(s) PEGGY ARMISTICE Last name DOHERTY Gender Female Birth day 11 Birth month 11 Birth year 1921 Death quarter 2 Death year 1995 District Swindon District number 7961B Register number B45B Entry number 157 Date of registration mm/yy 0695
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Chris Ho :)
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26 Jan 2018 08:19 |
Was wondering where in Australia? (Queensland, NSW etc.)
Chris :)
Edits (below one?)
White Thomas : SERN 2005 : POB Mackay QLD : POE Rockhampton QLD : NOK W White Violet Contents date range 1914 - 1920
(yes, from image, Violet M White, 9, Havelock St, Trowbridge, Wilts. Dated 11/1/16)
Australian Imperial Force Embarkation Roll 1914-1918 Transcription (Find My Past)
First name(s) Thomas Last name White Service number 2005 Rank Private Birth year 1890 Marital status Single Occupation Labourer Religion Church of England Age at Embarkation 26 Embarkation year 1916 Embarkation date 01 May 1916 Embarkation regiment/unit 52nd Infantry Battalion Unit information 3rd Reinforcements Departure port Brisbane, Queensland Ship name Hmat A46, Clan Mcgillivray Enlistment date 11 Jan 1916 Address Peri City Mackay State Queensland Country Australia Next of kin's first name(s) Charlotte Next of kin's last name Burkett Next of kin title Mrs Relationship Mother Next of kin address Peri Next of kin city Mackay Next of kin state QUEENSLAND
(on Aust. Archives WW1 image, Violet is given)
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26 Jan 2018 08:20 |
Possibly Violet travelling to Australia with her eldest child in 1919- both intending to reside in Queensland (but had returned to England by 1921 for daughter's birth):
Passenger Lists leaving UK 1890-1960 Transcription
names Mrs V M White, age 22, occ domestic duties names Thomas White age 1
Departure year 1919 Departure day 18 Departure month 7 Departure port London Destination port Brisbane Destination BRISBANE State Queensland Country Australia Destination country Australia Ship name Orsova Ship official number 128278
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Chris Ho :)
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26 Jan 2018 08:33 |
(yes could be, nothing jumping out on below, although does state below)
Current birth search range is from 1829 to 1918.
Chris :)
https://www.bdm.qld.gov.au/IndexSearch/queryEntry.m?type=births
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/search?adv=y
(if any snippet on above)
https://www.cwgc.org/find-war-dead/casualty/576954/white,-thomas/
Private WHITE, THOMAS Service Number 2005A Died 17/04/1918 Aged 29 52nd Bn. Australian Infantry, A.I.F. Husband of Violet Mary White, of 9, Havelock St., Trowbridge, England.
Buried at VILLERS-BRETONNEUX MILITARY CEMETERY
https://tinyurl.com/ybwemoa6
The Telegraph (Brisbane, Qld. : 1872 - 1947) Monday 20 May 1918
Roll of Honour. 261 Queenslanders Thomas White, England, 17/4/18.
Wiltshire Marriage indexes for the years: 1917
HOLLOWAY Violet M WHITE Thomas Trowbridge Holy Trinity History Centre C24/3/42
http://www.wiltshirebmd.org.uk/index.php
Marriages Sep 1917 (>99%) ------------------------------------------------------------ Holloway Violet M White Melksham 5a 219 White Thomas Holloway Melksham 5a 219
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26 Jan 2018 08:33 |
Obituary of Mrs Florence Holloway of 20 Orchard Road recorded in the Wiltshire Times and Trowbridge Advertiser 10 July 1943.
Mourners were: Mr W Holloway, son Mr & Mrs Stanley Holloway, son & daughter in law Mr & Mrs Blackey, daughter & son in law Mr & Mrs J West, daughter and son in law Mr & Mrs T Lyke, daughter & son in law Mrs V White, daughter Teggie Lyke, Peggy White & Gladie- grandchildren --------------------------
The article also gives mention of the floral tributes which include:
In loving memory of a dearest Mother and Gran from Vi & Gray
In loving memory of our dearest Gran from her Granschildren, Tom Peg and Gladie (on active service) "Gone but not forgotten"
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Glyn
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26 Jan 2018 23:24 |
I will look up Thomas army records to confirm that. They were married3rd quarter of 1917 in TROWBRIDGE. Thanks for what you’ve found out and I’ll get back to you soon with more army info
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27 Jan 2018 06:51 |
Well think below is him...(posted earlier)
Chris :)
https://www.cwgc.org/find-war-dead/casualty/576954/white,-thomas/
Private WHITE, THOMAS Service Number 2005A Died 17/04/1918 Aged 29 52nd Bn. Australian Infantry, A.I.F. Husband of Violet Mary White, of 9, Havelock St., Trowbridge, England.
Buried at VILLERS-BRETONNEUX MILITARY CEMETERY
http://www.naa.gov.au/collection/search/
(RecordSearch (to) NameSearch) World War 1)
(his record was on above, but a lot of images, some repeats, you have to keep plodding through!)
1911 (Find My Past) (Address Reference) George Holloway Head Married Male 43 1868 Steple Ashton Wilts General Hawker Florance Holloway Wife Married Female 38 1873 Bristol - Florance Holloway Daughter Single Female 16 1895 Bristol Wooling Piecer Violet Holloway Daughter - Female 13 1898 Trowbridge Wilts School Edith Holloway Daughter - Female 11 1900 Trowbridge Wilts School William Holloway Son - Male 9 1902 Trowbridge Wilts - Lillian Holloway Daughter - Female 7 1904 Trowbridge Wilts - Stanley Holloway Son - Male 2 1909 Trowbridge Wilts 9 Havelock Street Trowbridge, Trowbridge, Wiltshire
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27 Jan 2018 09:07 |
(no time at present, but below is Death of Thomas White, AQ, if you're about, there is an address Queensland!, apologies for the cheek!, but going out shortly)
Chris :)
17 April 1920 - Wiltshire Times and Trowbridge Advertiser - Trowbridge
From Liz loving Wife and Child. Mrs, V. White tnee Violet Holloway). Road, Mackey, Australia.
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27 Jan 2018 09:47 |
17th April 1920 - Wiltshire Times and Trowbridge Advertiser
In loving memory of my dear husband and dear daddy, Private Thomas White, who was killed in action in France on April 18th 1918.
'Only the grave of a hero, Only a mound of earth, Far from the land of Wattie, the place that gave him birth. Somewhere in France he's lying, he answered his country's call, He died an Australian hero, fighting to save us all'
From his loving wife and child Ms V White (nee Violet Holloway), Bridge Road, Queensland Mackey, Australia.
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27 Jan 2018 14:35 |
(thankyou Choccy, very grateful, felt like I'd got the cheek of the devil, lol, time seemed to whizz earlier!)
Chris :)
Australia, Electoral Rolls, 1903-1980 (Ancestry)
(Queensland (District) Herbert MacKay)
(would be his Mother at Bridge Road, Charlotte Birkett, and a George Col* Birkett, there in 1917/22)
(down as George Coleman Birkett, and George Colam Birkett)
https://tinyurl.com/y9vg5ddx
(Charlotte Death notice, 1925)
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/search?adv=y
(for Newspapers, if anything else relating)
Queensland, Mackay, Funeral notices and funeral director records Transcription (Find My Past)
First name(s) Charlotte Last name Birkett Sex Female Age 65 Birth year 1860 Burial year 1925 Burial date 22 May 1925 Place Mackay State Queensland Country Australia
Queensland Marriages 1829-1939 Transcription (Find My Past)
First name(s) George Colman Last name Birkett Registration year 1897 Registration number 1897/001304 Marriage date 15 Mar 1897 Spouse's first name(s) Charlotte Spouse's last name White State Queensland Country Australia
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27 Jan 2018 16:30 |
Yes those war records are Thomas Whites. SERN 2005 POB Mackay QLD: POE Rockhampton etc. As for where he came from I think he was from Rockhampton but I haven’t found out yet where in Australia that is I thought Violet had a daughter called Peggy who was his daughter, but from what you’ve all found it seems she had more children, of whom only one is Thomas child. Thank you for what you’ve found out so far. I Thank
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27 Jan 2018 19:08 |
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rockhampton
(info. Rockhampton on above, from google search)
Chris :)
(a check on below, if Birth Queensland)
https://www.bdm.qld.gov.au/IndexSearch/queryEntry.m?type=births
1889 C7005 Thomas White William Charlotte Gaylard
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Glyn
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27 Jan 2018 21:27 |
Thanks everyone for all that information. I’ll see if I can find out more about Violets three children and what happened to them
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