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25 Jan 2018 16:43 |
Hi I am looking for any information about Alice Maud Styles (Stiles), born 1876 in Portsea Island, from what I have been told she was disowned by her family, the only info I have is that she married my father in-laws grandfather George Henry Sanders in 1896, nobody seems to have any idea why she was disowned, any help would be most grateful.
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25 Jan 2018 16:51 |
For ref 1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription Charles Street, Portsea, Portsea Island, Hampshire, England George Styles Head Married Male 47 1844 Surrey, England Engineers Labourer Elizabeth Styles Wife Married Female 43 1848 Hampshire, England - Alice M Styles Daughter - Female 14 1877 Eastney, Hampshire, England - Emily J Styles Daughter - Female 10 1881 Hampshire, England - Kitty J Styles Daughter In Law Married Female 19 1872 Hampshire, England - Charles R G Styles Grandson - Male 0 1891 Hampshire, England - Sophie A Styles Daughter In Law Married Female 24 1867 Hampshire, England - Alice M A Styles Granddaughter - Female 0 1891 Eastney, Hampshire, England - Transcription
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25 Jan 2018 16:53 |
Was she previously married?
Hampshire, Portsmouth Marriages
First name(s) Alice Maud Last name Styles Age 20 Birth year 1875 Denomination Anglican Marital status Spinster Occupation Dressmaker Residence Portsea Marriage year 1895 Marriage date 14 Oct 1895 Marriage place Southsea, St Bartholomew Dedication St Bartholomew Licence or banns Banns Spouse's first name(s) Edward Spouse's last name Cooke Spouse's age 22 Spouse's birth year 1873 Spouse's marital status Bachelor Spouse's occupation Clerk Spouse's residence Southsea Father's first name(s) George Father's last name Styles Father's occupation Labourer Spouse's father's first name(s) Edward Spouse's father's last name Cooke Spouse's father's occupation Solicitor's Clerk Witness 1 George Styles Witness 2 Hester Cooke County Hampshire Country England Register type Marriages Register year range 1891-1900 Archive reference CHU 32/1B/2 Archive Portsmouth History Centre Record set Hampshire, Portsmouth Marriages Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records Subcategory Parish Marriages Collections from England, Great Britain
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25 Jan 2018 16:55 |
Marriages Sep 1896 (>99%)
Sanders George Henry S. Molton 5b 839 Stiles Alice Maud M S Molton 5b 839
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25 Jan 2018 17:08 |
1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription Ivy Cottage Charles Bottom Cottage, Charles, South Molton, Devon, England George Sanders Jr Head Married Male 30 1871 Charles, Devon, England Ord Agric Labourer Alice Sanders Wife Married Female 26 1875 Portsmouth, Hampshire, England - Edwin Sanders Son - Male 4 1897 Charles, Devon, England William Sanders Son - Male 3 1898 Charles, Devon, England Ellen Sanders Daughter - Female 1 1900 Charles, Devon, England
birth to confirm mmnSANDERS, EDWIN SANDERS mmn STILES Order GRO Reference: 1896 D Quarter in SOUTH MOLTON Volume 05B Page 433
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25 Jan 2018 17:14 |
could that marriage be' this alice maud she was born about the same time
Births Dec 1876 (>99%) this alice
STYLES Alice Maud M Eastry 2a 891
Births Dec 1876
STYLES Alice Maud Portsea 2b 464
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25 Jan 2018 17:20 |
Could well be, the birth of Sanders children all seem to have mmn spelling Stiles SANDERS, ELLEN MARIA STILES Order GRO Reference: 1900 J Quarter in SOUTH MOLTON Volume 05B Page 402
SANDERS, WILLIAM GEORGE STILES Order GRO Reference: 1898 J Quarter in SOUTH MOLTON Volume 05B Page 413
so would need to be sure of whether there is another Alice Stiles, with that spelling?
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25 Jan 2018 17:26 |
this alice is married to George cooke
Alice Maud Cooke England and Wales Census, 1911 Name: Alice Maud Cooke Event Type: Census Event Date: 1911 Event Place: Portsmouth, Southsea, Hampshire, England County: Hampshire Parish: Portsmouth Sub-District: Kingston And East Southsea Registration District: Portsmouth Gender: Female Age: 34 Marital Status (Original): MARRIED Birth Year (Estimated): 1877 Birthplace: Eastney Portsmouth Relationship to Head of Household: Wife Line: 2 Page: 1 Years of Marriage: 15 Household Role Sex Age Birthplace Edward Cooke Head Male 38 Dalston London, London Alice Maud Cooke Wife Female 34 Eastney Portsmouth Edward George Cooke Son Male 14 Southsea Portsmouth Walter Charles Cooke Son Male 12 Southsea Portsmouth Ernest Frederick Cooke Son Male 10 Southsea Portsmouth Gladys Maud Cooke Daughter Female 8 Southsea Portsmouth Lilian May Cooke Daughter Female 5 Southsea Portsmouth
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25 Jan 2018 17:29 |
in 1901 Alice M Cooke England and Wales Census, 1901 Name: Alice M Cooke Event Type: Census Event Date: 31 Mar 1901 Event Place: Portsmouth, Hampshire, England County: Hampshire Civil Parish: Portsmouth Ecclesiastical Parish: St Bartholomew Sub-District: Portsmouth And Mid Southsea Registration District: Portsmouth Residence Note: Cleveland Road Gender: Female Age: 24 Relationship to Head of Household: Wife Birth Year (Estimated): 1877 Birthplace: Portsmouth, Hampshire Schedule Type: 21 Page Number: 3 Household Role Sex Age Birthplace Edward Cooke Head Male 27 Dalston, London Alice M Cooke Wife Female 24 Portsmouth, Hampshire Edward G Cooke Son Male 4 Portsmouth, Hampshire Walter C Cooke Son Male 2 Portsmouth, Hampshire Ernest F Cooke Son Male 0 Portsmouth, Hampshire
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25 Jan 2018 17:30 |
Birth of one of the Cooke children confirms mmn as Styles
COOKE, GLADYS MAUD STYLES Order GRO Reference: 1903 J Quarter in PORTSMOUTH Volume 02B Page 524
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25 Jan 2018 17:31 |
Below from google search...
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http://www.angelfire.com/de/BobSanders/RMAEastney81-2.html
(ROYAL MARINE ARTILLERY BARRACKS, EASTNEY, HAMPSHIRE - PART 2 Married Quarters)
1881 George STYLES M 37 M Merrow, Surrey, England Gunner R M Artillery Elizabeth STYLES M 33 F New Forest, Hampshire, England Gunner Wife George James STYLES 13 M Southsea, Hampshire, England Son Errand Boy Charles STYLES 10 M Southsea, Hampshire, England Son Scholar Alice Maud STYLES 4 F Southsea, Hampshire, England Daughter Emily Jane STYLES 5 m F Southsea, Hampshire, England Daughter
Birth STYLES, ALICE MAUD (WHITE) GRO Reference: 1876 D Quarter in PORTSEA ISLAND Volume 02B Page 464
Birth STYLES, EMILY JANE (WHITE) GRO Reference: 1880 D Quarter in PORTSEA ISLAND Volume 02B Page 518
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25 Jan 2018 17:37 |
Edward do you have the marriage cert for Alice to George Sanders? Does it give an occupation for her father please?
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25 Jan 2018 17:47 |
Below?...
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25 September 1896 - Western Times - Exeter, Devon, England
Marriage Sanders - Stiles - Sept. 19, at the Wesleyan Church, Southmolton, George Henry Sanders, of Charles, to Alice Maud Mary Stiles, of the same place.
(other one)
Kent, Canterbury Archdeaconry Baptisms Transcription (Find My Past)
First name(s) Alice Maud Mary Last name Styles Birth date 03 Sep Baptism year 1876 Baptism date 30 Oct 1876 Place Sandwich, St Clement Father's first name(s) William Thomas (occ. Bricklayer) Mother's first name(s) Ellen County Kent
(another)
Birth STYLES, ALICE MAUDE MARY (PAYNE) GRO Reference: 1876 J Quarter in CHELSEA Volume 01A Page 301
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25 Jan 2018 17:48 |
Alice Sanders in 1911
1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription Village Charles South Molton, Charles, Devon, England Alice Sanders Head Widow Female 34 1877 Hampshire Portsmouth - William Sanders Son - Male 13 1898 Devonshire Charles At School Ellen Sanders Daughter - Female 10 1901 Devonshire Charles At School Alice Sanders Daughter - Female 9 1902 Devonshire Charles Emily Sanders Daughter - Female 7 1904 Devonshire Charles - Frederick Sanders Son - Male 1 1910 Devonshire Charles -
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25 Jan 2018 17:55 |
The last two daughters named in 1911 have apparently mistransribed mmn
SANDERS, EMILY WINIFRED mmn STOYLES Order GRO Reference: 1904 J Quarter in SOUTH MOLTON Volume 05B Page 394
SANDERS, ALICE MAUD mmn STOYLE Order GRO Reference: 1901 S Quarter in SOUTH MOLTON Volume 05B Page 409
as does Frederick
SANDERS, FREDERICK JOHN mmn HYLES Order GRO Reference: 1909 S Quarter in SOUTH MOLTON Volume 05B Page 378
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25 Jan 2018 17:59 |
Thanks for the replies so far, I don't think she was previously married and her parents weren't mentioned on the marriage certificate, I have been told that they did not know of the marriage.
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25 Jan 2018 18:21 |
Both Baptisms (Find My Past) at same time...(Parents, George/Elizabeth, his occ. Labourer. Abode, 21 Exmouth Road)
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Styles Alice Maud 1885 Hampshire, Portsmouth Baptisms Milton, Hampshire, England
Styles Emily Jane 1885 Hampshire, Portsmouth Baptisms Milton, Hampshire, England
Styles Emily Jane 1880 — 1900 Hampshire, Portsmouth Marriages Southsea, St Peter, Hampshire, England (Spouse, Ernest George Parker)
(notes Witness on above as Alice Maud Cooke. Father, George Styles, occ. Labourer)
1901 (Find My Past) Ernest G Parker Head Married Male 21 1880 Portsmouth, Hampshire, England Fitter's Labourer Emily J Parker Wife Married Female 20 1881 Portsmouth, Hampshire, England - 21, Cornwall Road, Portsmouth, Hampshire,
1911 (Find My Past) Ernest Parker Head Married Male 31 1880 Hampshire Portsmouth Engine Fitter's Help Emily Parker Wife Married Female 30 1881 Hampshire Portsmouth 5 Middlesex Road Portsmouth, Portsmouth, Hampshire
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25 Jan 2018 18:24 |
I wonder?
Births Jun 1880 (>99%) STOYLES Alice Ann M Plymouth 5b 277
No def not
STOYLES, ALICE ANN MARY WAY Order GRO Reference: 1880 J Quarter in PLYMOUTH Volume 05B Page 277
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25 Jan 2018 18:54 |
From 1895 Marriage reference posted earlier, perhaps the Edward...
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1891 (Find My Past) Sarah Fryer Head Widow Female 74 1817 Hampshire, England Living On Her Means Edward Cooke Brother In Law Single Male 18 1873 London (Dalston) Middlesex, England Railway Clerk Highfield Street, Portsea, Portsea Island, Hampshire
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25 Jan 2018 18:57 |
Edward, what does it say for her on 1896 Marriage (Spinster etc.)...
Witnesses?...
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(if George below)
Devon Baptisms Transcription (Find My Past)
First name(s) Henry George Last name Sanders Baptism year 1870 Baptism date 01 Feb 1870 Baptism place Charles Father's first name(s) George (occ. Labourer) Father's occupation Labourer Mother's first name(s) Maria Residence Kitesnest County Devon Description Charles Baptisms 1837-1915
Sanders George 1870 1909 (Devon Burials Charles, Devon, England (Find My Past)
(if her below, and mistaken with May!)
1939 Register (Find My Past)
The Village , South Molton R.D., Devon, Alice Sanders 11 May 1876 Female Housewife Married (W on image)
Birth STYLES, ALICE MAUD (WHITE) GRO Reference: 1876 D Quarter in PORTSEA ISLAND Volume 02B Page 464
1901 (Find My Past) (and 1911 below, Census references posted earlier)
Edward Cooke Head Married Male 27 1874 Dalston, Middlesex, England Railway Booking Clerk Alice M Cooke Wife Married Female 24 1877 Portsmouth, Hampshire, England - Edward G Cooke Son - Male 4 1897 Portsmouth, Hampshire, England - Walter C Cooke Son - Male 2 1899 Portsmouth, Hampshire, England - Ernest F Cooke Son - Male 0 1901 Portsmouth, Hampshire, England 33, Cleveland Road, Portsmouth, Hampshire,
1911 Edward Cooke Head Married Male 38 1873 Dalston London Railway Booking Clerk Alice Maud Cooke Wife Married Female 34 1877 Eastney Portsmouth - Edward George Cooke Son - Male 14 1897 Southsea Portsmouth School Walter Charles Cooke Son - Male 12 1899 Southsea Portsmouth School Ernest Frederick Cooke Son - Male 10 1901 Southsea Portsmouth School Gladys Maud Cooke Daughter - Female 8 1903 Southsea Portsmouth School Lilian May Cooke Daughter - Female 5 1906 Southsea Portsmouth School 61 Telephone Road Southsea, Portsmouth, Hampshire, (says Married 15yrs, 5 children born, 5 living)
Birth COOKE, ERNEST FREDERICK (STYLES) GRO Reference: 1900 D Quarter in PORTSMOUTH Volume 02B Page 490
(and Alice Maud Cooke a Witness at Marriage of her Sister Emily Jane Styles 1900!)
(notes 1911 Alice Sanders (Charles, Devon) says 14yrs for 'Completed years the present Marriage has lasted' 7 children born, 7 living)
(below I posted earlier)
25 September 1896 - Western Times - Exeter, Devon, England
Marriage Sanders - Stiles - Sept. 19, at the Wesleyan Church, Southmolton, George Henry Sanders, of Charles, to Alice Maud Mary Stiles, of the same place.
(a 'head scratcher methinks, if not a headache, lol)
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