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Joan Mary Caless b 1905 who at some point married Thomas Fraser.
I know nothing more than that. He was in the army, an officer I think. He may have been widowed. They may have lived abroad. They certainly had an active social life. Don’t know when either of them died.
I would really value some help.
Ruth

Surname First name(s) Spouse District Vol Page
Marriages Dec 1938 (>99%)
Caless Joan M Fraser Westminster 1a 1215
Fraser Thomas L Caless Westminster 1a 1215


Andy

There is this one in the 1939 register although her birth year is given as 1907:-

Household (1 Person)
International Sportsmens Club, Grosvenor House Park Lane, London , City of Westminster, London, England

FIRST NAME(S) LAST NAME(S) ROLE DOB SEX OCCUPATION MARITAL STATUS SCHEDULE SCHEDULE SUB NUMBER

Joan M Frazer V 19 May 1907 Female Unpaid Domestic Dutie Married 1 28

Kath. x

Possible death:-

England & Wales deaths 1837-2007 Transcription
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First name(s) JOAN MARIAN
Last name FRAZER
Gender Female
Birth day 19
Birth month 5
Birth year 1907
Age -
Death quarter 1
Death year 1995
District Hastings & Rother
District number 4561A
Register number A55A
Entry number 124
Date of registration mm/yy 0395
County Sussex
Country England
Record set England & Wales Deaths 1837-2007
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Civil Deaths & Burials
Collections from Great Britain, England

Kath. x

The birth date on those records doesn't tie in with a birth in the first qtr:

First name(s) JOAN MARY
Last name CALESS
Birth year 1905
Birth quarter 1
District Aston
County Warwickshire
Volume 6D Page 461

Looks like she died in Scotland:

Death:

Name: JOAN MARY FRASER/ CALESS

Age: 58

Year of Death: 1963

Ref: 329/ 30

RD Name: Auchterarder

That’s really good. Yes AustinQ I agree as her middle name is definitely Mary, and she died at a fairly early age.
Is there any place I can check which could fill in the gap between her marriage and death? They ended up in Scotland by the looks of things but for some reason I thought they were abroad. I also vaguely remember being told Thomas Fraser or Frazier was in the army or one of the Forces. That’s pretty vague I know
Ruth

The marriage cert should tell you Thomas's occupation, his age, whether or not he was a widower, and his father's name. Also, hopefully, Thomas's middle name, to aid identification.

Joan's death cert will tell you if she was widowed or not.

They don't appear to have had any children - at least not born in England or Wales.
Impossible to tell in Scotland - Fraser/Frazer is such a common name, and mother's maiden surname can't be used to narrow it down.

If Thomas was a widow- then there is this possibility:

Thomas Lochead Fraser born 30th January 1889 Renfrewshire, Scotland

First marriage to Dorothy Walton Mellor in 1917 Ashton under Lyne, Lancashire.

At least one child born- Jean Lochead Fraser 30th July 1918 Lancs- died 1995 Inverness

Dorothy died 8th September 1932 Lambeth Surrey.

England & Wales, National Probate Calendar
FRASER Dorothy Walton of 63 The Avenue, Kew Gardens Surrey (wife of Thomas Lochead Fraser) died 8 September 1932 at St. Thomas's Home Middlesex Probate Manchester 26 October to George Rupert Mellor Solicitor and notary public.
Effect £3243
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Thomas served in WW1 in the Royal Army Medical Corps (Captain in 1918)

Possibly later a Colonel OBE , Military Hospital, Edinburgh (1939)

He died in Glasgow, Scotland.

Death:
THOMAS LOCHHEAD FRASER
Age: 64
Year of death: 1954
Ref: 685/5 25
RD Name: George Square

There are various records for him on Ancestry. I won't post them all as you really need the 1938 marriage certificate to confirm his name and age.

Thank you so much. I’ll get the marriage certificate to check

Wills and probates

FRASER Thomas Lochhead of Toft Cottage, Elie, Fife died 5 Jan 1954 at Edinburgh Confirmation of Joan Mary Fraser widow and Jean Moore. Sealed LONDON 10 April.



https://probatesearch.service.gov.uk/Calendar?surname=fraser&yearOfDeath=1954&page=4#calendar

https://probatesearch.service.gov.uk/Calendar?surname=fraser&yearOfDeath=1963&page=4#calendar

FRASER Joan Mary of Fir Tree Cottage, Yarnton nr Oxford widow died 17 Apr 1963 at St Kessogs Place High Street Auchterarder Perthshire Probate MANCHESTER to Jean Lochhead Moore married woman and John Francis Edmondson solicitor. Effects £3064 19s 11d.

Looks like Jean Moore's a daughter. I don't see her birth so far.


Here's her marriage:

FRASER
JEAN LOCHHEAD
MOORE
WILLIAM
1947
336/ 21
Callander

Here's her birth AG. AustinQ has it mention of it above as well. 17 Jan 2018 12:17

First name(s) JEAN
Last name FRASER
Birth year 1918
Birth quarter 3
Registration month -
Mother's last name Mellor
District Ormskirk
County Lancashire
Country England
Volume 8B
Page 1382

1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Greenbank Manse, Mearns, Busby, Renfrewshire, Scotland

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First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
James Fraser Head Married Male 44 1857 Minister Of Parish Of Green Bank Glasgow, Lanarkshire, Scotland
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Mary S Fraser Wife Married Female 46 1855 - Glasgow, Lanarkshire, Scotland
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Ella S Fraser Daughter Single Female 15 1886 Scholar Clarkston, Renfrewshire, Scotland
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Alexander Fraser Son Single Male 13 1888 Scholar Clarkston, Renfrewshire, Scotland
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>>Thomas Lochhead Fraser Son Single Male 12 1889 Scholar Clarkston, Renfrewshire, Scotland
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Mary Mcdugall Fraser Daughter Single Female 9 1892 Scholar Clarkston, Renfrewshire, Scotland
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Angus Mcintyre Fraser Son Single Male 8 1893 Scholar Clarkston, Renfrewshire, Scotland
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James Valentine Fraser Son Single Male - - - Busby, Renfrewshire, Scotland
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Louisa Lithgow Servant Single Female 16 1885 Nurse (Domestic) Canada



1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
The Manse, Cathcart, Renfrewshire, Scotland

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First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
James Fraser Head Married Male 35 1856 Minister Of Greenbank Parish Lanarkshire, Scotland
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Mary Fraser Wife Married Female 37 1854 Ministers Wife Lanarkshire, Scotland
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Ella S Fraser Daughter - Female 5 1886 Scholar Renfrewshire, Scotland
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Alexander Fraser Son - Male 3 1888 - Greenbank, Renfrewshire, Scotland
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>>Thomas L Fraser Son - Male 2 1889 - Renfrewshire, Scotland
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Elizabeth Campbell Servant Unmarried Female 19 1872 General Servant (Domestic) Lanarkshire, Scotland

First name(s) Thomas Locheed
Last name Fraser
Year 1914-20
Service number -
Rank Temporary Second Lieutenant,Captain Major
Second rank Captain Major
Regiment Royal Army Medical Corps
Second corps Royal Army Medical Corps
Service record Rank: Temporary Second Lieutenant, Corps: Royal Army Medical Corps
Second service record Rank: Captain Major, Corps: Royal Army Medical Corps
Image link http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/SearchUI/Details?uri=D2238887
Country Great Britain
Medal type British Army Medal Index Cards, 1914-1920


Medical Register 1913 Transcription
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First name(s) Thomas Lochhead
Last name Fraser
Year 1913
Listing type Listing
Record set Medical Register 1913
Category Education & work
Subcategory Occupations
Collections from Great Britain, UK None

Registered 6 May 1911 in Scotland. Qualifications: M.B., Bac.Surg. 1911. Univ. Glasg.

Alviegal- that's a great find! The probate records confirm we have the correct Thomas :)

Yes, good call in the first place from you AustinQ!! :-)

Thank you both. Amazing what you’ve found out