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Glyn
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18 Jan 2018 18:52 |
Thank you both. Amazing what you’ve found out
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alviegal
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18 Jan 2018 12:02 |
Yes, good call in the first place from you AustinQ!! :-)
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AustinQ
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18 Jan 2018 06:31 |
Alviegal- that's a great find! The probate records confirm we have the correct Thomas :)
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alviegal
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17 Jan 2018 21:49 |
First name(s) Thomas Locheed Last name Fraser Year 1914-20 Service number - Rank Temporary Second Lieutenant,Captain Major Second rank Captain Major Regiment Royal Army Medical Corps Second corps Royal Army Medical Corps Service record Rank: Temporary Second Lieutenant, Corps: Royal Army Medical Corps Second service record Rank: Captain Major, Corps: Royal Army Medical Corps Image link http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/SearchUI/Details?uri=D2238887 Country Great Britain Medal type British Army Medal Index Cards, 1914-1920
Medical Register 1913 Transcription Print transcription View image First name(s) Thomas Lochhead Last name Fraser Year 1913 Listing type Listing Record set Medical Register 1913 Category Education & work Subcategory Occupations Collections from Great Britain, UK None
Registered 6 May 1911 in Scotland. Qualifications: M.B., Bac.Surg. 1911. Univ. Glasg.
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alviegal
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17 Jan 2018 21:43 |
1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription Greenbank Manse, Mearns, Busby, Renfrewshire, Scotland
Learn more Print transcription Household Members First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place James Fraser Head Married Male 44 1857 Minister Of Parish Of Green Bank Glasgow, Lanarkshire, Scotland Transcription Mary S Fraser Wife Married Female 46 1855 - Glasgow, Lanarkshire, Scotland Transcription Ella S Fraser Daughter Single Female 15 1886 Scholar Clarkston, Renfrewshire, Scotland Transcription Alexander Fraser Son Single Male 13 1888 Scholar Clarkston, Renfrewshire, Scotland Transcription >>Thomas Lochhead Fraser Son Single Male 12 1889 Scholar Clarkston, Renfrewshire, Scotland Transcription Mary Mcdugall Fraser Daughter Single Female 9 1892 Scholar Clarkston, Renfrewshire, Scotland Transcription Angus Mcintyre Fraser Son Single Male 8 1893 Scholar Clarkston, Renfrewshire, Scotland Transcription James Valentine Fraser Son Single Male - - - Busby, Renfrewshire, Scotland Transcription Louisa Lithgow Servant Single Female 16 1885 Nurse (Domestic) Canada
1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription The Manse, Cathcart, Renfrewshire, Scotland
Learn more Print transcription Household Members First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place James Fraser Head Married Male 35 1856 Minister Of Greenbank Parish Lanarkshire, Scotland Transcription Mary Fraser Wife Married Female 37 1854 Ministers Wife Lanarkshire, Scotland Transcription Ella S Fraser Daughter - Female 5 1886 Scholar Renfrewshire, Scotland Transcription Alexander Fraser Son - Male 3 1888 - Greenbank, Renfrewshire, Scotland Transcription >>Thomas L Fraser Son - Male 2 1889 - Renfrewshire, Scotland Transcription Elizabeth Campbell Servant Unmarried Female 19 1872 General Servant (Domestic) Lanarkshire, Scotland
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alviegal
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17 Jan 2018 21:37 |
Here's her birth AG. AustinQ has it mention of it above as well. 17 Jan 2018 12:17
First name(s) JEAN Last name FRASER Birth year 1918 Birth quarter 3 Registration month - Mother's last name Mellor District Ormskirk County Lancashire Country England Volume 8B Page 1382
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ArgyllGran
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17 Jan 2018 20:23 |
Looks like Jean Moore's a daughter. I don't see her birth so far.
Here's her marriage:
FRASER JEAN LOCHHEAD MOORE WILLIAM 1947 336/ 21 Callander
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alviegal
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17 Jan 2018 20:11 |
https://probatesearch.service.gov.uk/Calendar?surname=fraser&yearOfDeath=1963&page=4#calendar
FRASER Joan Mary of Fir Tree Cottage, Yarnton nr Oxford widow died 17 Apr 1963 at St Kessogs Place High Street Auchterarder Perthshire Probate MANCHESTER to Jean Lochhead Moore married woman and John Francis Edmondson solicitor. Effects £3064 19s 11d.
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alviegal
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17 Jan 2018 20:04 |
Wills and probates
FRASER Thomas Lochhead of Toft Cottage, Elie, Fife died 5 Jan 1954 at Edinburgh Confirmation of Joan Mary Fraser widow and Jean Moore. Sealed LONDON 10 April.
https://probatesearch.service.gov.uk/Calendar?surname=fraser&yearOfDeath=1954&page=4#calendar
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Glyn
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17 Jan 2018 18:16 |
Thank you so much. I’ll get the marriage certificate to check
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AustinQ
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17 Jan 2018 12:17 |
If Thomas was a widow- then there is this possibility:
Thomas Lochead Fraser born 30th January 1889 Renfrewshire, Scotland
First marriage to Dorothy Walton Mellor in 1917 Ashton under Lyne, Lancashire.
At least one child born- Jean Lochead Fraser 30th July 1918 Lancs- died 1995 Inverness
Dorothy died 8th September 1932 Lambeth Surrey.
England & Wales, National Probate Calendar FRASER Dorothy Walton of 63 The Avenue, Kew Gardens Surrey (wife of Thomas Lochead Fraser) died 8 September 1932 at St. Thomas's Home Middlesex Probate Manchester 26 October to George Rupert Mellor Solicitor and notary public. Effect £3243 ------------------------------------------
Thomas served in WW1 in the Royal Army Medical Corps (Captain in 1918)
Possibly later a Colonel OBE , Military Hospital, Edinburgh (1939)
He died in Glasgow, Scotland.
Death: THOMAS LOCHHEAD FRASER Age: 64 Year of death: 1954 Ref: 685/5 25 RD Name: George Square
There are various records for him on Ancestry. I won't post them all as you really need the 1938 marriage certificate to confirm his name and age.
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ArgyllGran
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17 Jan 2018 10:51 |
The marriage cert should tell you Thomas's occupation, his age, whether or not he was a widower, and his father's name. Also, hopefully, Thomas's middle name, to aid identification.
Joan's death cert will tell you if she was widowed or not.
They don't appear to have had any children - at least not born in England or Wales. Impossible to tell in Scotland - Fraser/Frazer is such a common name, and mother's maiden surname can't be used to narrow it down.
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Glyn
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17 Jan 2018 08:11 |
That’s really good. Yes AustinQ I agree as her middle name is definitely Mary, and she died at a fairly early age. Is there any place I can check which could fill in the gap between her marriage and death? They ended up in Scotland by the looks of things but for some reason I thought they were abroad. I also vaguely remember being told Thomas Fraser or Frazier was in the army or one of the Forces. That’s pretty vague I know Ruth
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AustinQ
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17 Jan 2018 07:03 |
Looks like she died in Scotland:
Death:
Name: JOAN MARY FRASER/ CALESS Age: 58 Year of Death: 1963 Ref: 329/ 30 RD Name: Auchterarder
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AustinQ
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17 Jan 2018 06:57 |
The birth date on those records doesn't tie in with a birth in the first qtr:
First name(s) JOAN MARY Last name CALESS Birth year 1905 Birth quarter 1 District Aston County Warwickshire Volume 6D Page 461
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KathleenBell
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17 Jan 2018 00:09 |
Possible death:-
England & Wales deaths 1837-2007 Transcription Print transcription First name(s) JOAN MARIAN Last name FRAZER Gender Female Birth day 19 Birth month 5 Birth year 1907 Age - Death quarter 1 Death year 1995 District Hastings & Rother District number 4561A Register number A55A Entry number 124 Date of registration mm/yy 0395 County Sussex Country England Record set England & Wales Deaths 1837-2007 Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records Subcategory Civil Deaths & Burials Collections from Great Britain, England
Kath. x
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KathleenBell
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17 Jan 2018 00:06 |
There is this one in the 1939 register although her birth year is given as 1907:-
Household (1 Person) International Sportsmens Club, Grosvenor House Park Lane, London , City of Westminster, London, England
FIRST NAME(S) LAST NAME(S) ROLE DOB SEX OCCUPATION MARITAL STATUS SCHEDULE SCHEDULE SUB NUMBER
Joan M Frazer V 19 May 1907 Female Unpaid Domestic Dutie Married 1 28
Kath. x
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Andrew
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16 Jan 2018 23:30 |
Surname First name(s) Spouse District Vol Page Marriages Dec 1938 (>99%) Caless Joan M Fraser Westminster 1a 1215 Fraser Thomas L Caless Westminster 1a 1215
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Glyn
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16 Jan 2018 23:16 |
Joan Mary Caless b 1905 who at some point married Thomas Fraser. I know nothing more than that. He was in the army, an officer I think. He may have been widowed. They may have lived abroad. They certainly had an active social life. Don’t know when either of them died. I would really value some help. Ruth
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