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Frank Maidment m Emily Edgell

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Glyn

Glyn Report 8 Mar 2018 09:18

That’s really brilliant Nyx. Thank you. It’s filled in the final parts of the puzzle.
Thank you to everyone who has helped with this research
Glyn

Rambling

Rambling Report 3 Mar 2018 22:53

Marriages Mar 1932 (>99%)
Chapman Harry J Cooper Southampton 2c 111
German Mary B Ralls Southampton 2c 111

Ralls Household (4 People)
3 Windermere Gardens , New Forest R.D., Hampshire, England

Ernest H Ralls 05 Oct 1904 Male General Labourer Married 94 1
Mary B Ralls 24 Feb 1912 Female Unpaid Domestic Dutie Married 94 2
Sorry, this record is officially closed. Check if you can open a closed record.

Rambling

Rambling Report 3 Mar 2018 22:49

Kathleen M Ralls,

1939 REGISTER TRANSCRIPTION

Nickerson Household (8 People)
Sagytown Cottage Nelsons Place , New Forest R.D., Hampshire, England

Kathleen Prickett (Ralls) 20 Feb 1918 Female Domestic Service Single 237 5 <<<<<<
Lois A Nickerson 06 Feb 1912 Female Private Means Married 237 1
David Nickerson 24 Mar 1933 Male At School Single 237 2

Rambling

Rambling Report 3 Mar 2018 22:43

Ralls Household (5 People)
32 Vespasian Road , Southampton C.B., Hampshire, England


Albert F Ralls 12 Jan 1910 Male Head Waiter Seajony 255155 Married 27 1
Kathleen M Ralls 27 Apr 1908 Female Housewife Unpaid Married 27 2
Arthur A Lewis 25 Feb 1885 Male Shipyard Labourer Single 27 3
Edith R Cox 24 Dec 1878 Female Railway Checker Widowed 27 4
William J Cox 19 Feb 1907 Male Wharf Worker S Railway Married 27 5

Rambling

Rambling Report 3 Mar 2018 22:41

Marriages Sep 1930 (>99%)

McAleer Philip Ralls Southampton 2c 163
Ralls Dorothy G McAleer Southampton 2c 163

Rambling

Rambling Report 3 Mar 2018 22:39

Marriages Mar 1939 (>99%)
Ralls Nellie B Dobie Southampton 2c 149

Dobie Household (3 People)
Alberta Harlyn Road , Southampton C.B., Hampshire, England

Nellie B Dobie 30 Jan 1912 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married 66 2
John Dobie 30 Nov 1911 Male Corporate Secretary Married 66

Rambling

Rambling Report 3 Mar 2018 22:36

Winifred E Ralls in 1939, mistranscribed as Rells she married Albert Foster 1944

Donnell Household (7 People)
Crossways Shawford,Winchester , Winchester R.D., Hampshire, England

R
Winifred Foster (Rells) 27 Mar 1915 Female Domestic Paid Cook Single 28 7
Ada P C Donnell 01 May 1865 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Widowed 28 1
Pauline M Donnell 03 Jun 1895 Female Private Means Single 28 2
Annie L C Bowker 04 Jan 1863 Female Private Means Single 28 3
Lilian P Thorpe 24 Mar 1904 Female Housewife Unpaid Domestic Du Married 28 4
Brenda M Nield (Thorpe) 18 Aug 1935 Female Under School Age Single 28 5
Sorry, this record is officially closed. Check if you can open a closed record.

Rambling

Rambling Report 3 Mar 2018 22:18

Births Jun 1878 (>99%)
Edgell Emily Finellen Southampton 2c 27
Edgell Emily Fluellen Southampton 2c 27


England & Wales deaths 1837-2007
First name(s) EMILY F
Last name MAIDMENT
Gender Female
Birth day -
Birth month -
Birth year 1878
Age 87
Death quarter 4
Death year 1965
District Southampton
County Hampshire
Volume 6B
Page 751
Country England
Record set England & Wales Deaths 1837-2007
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Civil Deaths & Burials
Collections from Great Britain, England

Rambling

Rambling Report 3 Mar 2018 22:03

Note that the Emily here has also had an error in age, corrected to 1898 ?? BUT that could be 78 as the top of entry is partly obscured by line above??) and I don't think middle initial is D either possibly f or j...f would tie in as she is with son from first marriage to Ralls and son Julian from second marriage to Maidment.

Maidment Household (4 People)
26 Twyford Avenue , Southampton C.B., Hampshire, England

Julian E Maidment 27 Feb 1922 Male Clerk (Junior) Single 243 4
Emily D Maidment 12 Apr 1890 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married 243 1
Eric C Ralls 08 Mar 1920 Male Apprentice Ships Draughtsman Single 243 2
Sorry, this record is officially closed. Check if you can open a closed record.

Rambling

Rambling Report 3 Mar 2018 21:56

Glyn the Madeline and Agnes Maidment you mention have different mothers maiden names.
Births Sep 1923 (>99%)
Maidment Madeline M mmn Allan Romford
Births Mar 1917 (>99%)
Maidment Agnes M mmn Ferris Romford

Rambling

Rambling Report 3 Mar 2018 21:37

Note the Violet here is the one born 1916 there is an error in transcription

Maidment Household (6 People)
44 Glenn Avenue , Coulsdon and Purley U.D., Surrey, England


Reginald F Maidment 19 Aug 1916 Male Retail Boot & Shoe Salesman Single 62 1
Violet M Maidment 19 Aug 1876 ** 1916** Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Single 62 2
Elsie A Winton 03 Jan 1885 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married 62 3
Robert W Winton 15 Jan 1920 Male Mentally Incapacitated Single 62 4
Emma E Dunstan 24 Oct 1855 Female Private Means Widowed 62 5
Eugene O Foster 22 Mar 1895 Male Electrical Engineer Single 62 6

Rambling

Rambling Report 3 Mar 2018 21:20

This is the Bournemouth one, does Frank's & father's occupation tie in with marriage cert?

1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Tesse Cottage, 8, Bournemouth, Christchurch, Hampshire & Dorset, England

George Maidment Head Married Male 50 1851 Handley, Dorset, England Cabman Transcription
Julia Maidment Wife Married Female 50 1851 Moordown, Hampshire, England -
Albert Maidment Son Single Male 18 1883 Bournemouth, Hampshire, England Grocers Porter
Mark Maidment Son Single Male 16 1885 Bournemouth, Hampshire, England Butcher
Frank Maidment Son Single Male 15 1886 Bournemouth, Hampshire, England Butcher
Phillis Maidment Daughter Single Female 13 1888 Bournemouth, Hampshire, England Dressmaker (Apprentice)
Elsie Maidment Daughter Single Female 11 1890 Bournemouth, Hampshire, England - Transcription
Esther Maidment Daughter Single Female 8 1893 Bournemouth, Hampshire, England -

Glyn

Glyn Report 3 Mar 2018 20:44

Ive finally looked up all the references as well as the census forms and the Frank Maidment born in Mere is not the right person.
I think he is born in 1887 in Bournemouth because on his marriage to Violet his father is cited as George Maidment..
I think he died in Southampton in 1960.
Does anyone think that's correct?
I also think the children from the first marriage are
Violet and Reginald (born 1916)
Agnes born 1917
Julian born in 1922
there seems to be another twin??? of Julian called Francis
Madeline born 1923, same year that Violet died.

Frank marries Emily Ralls in 1929 so I also wondered what happened to Frank's children, because Julian seems to be living in Southampton in 1939. Emily had 10 children so if Frank moved in with 6 children that's quite a crowd.

Any ideas anyone? your help would greatly be appreciated

Additionally who is Emily Maidment on the 1939 register mentioned above? it cant be Frank's wife as the DOB is wrong

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 2 Feb 2018 14:00

?????

First name(s) EDWINA MARGARET
Last name CHAPMAN
Gender Female
Birth day 18
Birth month 7
Birth year 1922
Age -
Death quarter 4
Death year 1993
District Mendip
District number 7211
Register number 16D
Entry number 129
Date of registration mm/yy 1193
County Somerset
Country England
Record set England & Wales Deaths 1837-2007
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Civil Deaths & Burials
Collections from Great Britain, England
(c) brightsolid online publishing ltd

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 2 Feb 2018 13:50

EDWINA M
Last name RALLS
Marriage quarter 3
Marriage year 1945
Registration month -
MarriageFinder™ EDWINA M RALLS married
Cyril Chapman
Spouse's last name Chapman
District Southampton
District number -
County Hampshire
Country England
Volume 2C
Volume as transcribed 2C
Page number 111
Record set England & Wales Marriages 1837-2005
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Civil Marriage & Divorce
Collections from Great Britain, England


There's a couple of possible births from this marriage in Southampton

Glyn

Glyn Report 2 Feb 2018 08:44

Does anyone have connections to Edwina M Ralls or any information about Emily Edgell? For some reason there was a family feud and Edwina moved away from Southampton? It could be due to the war or something else. Unfortunately the human story isn’t available always from records but I’m interested in finding out what happened if that’s possible from such a long time ago

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 17 Jan 2018 18:40

(was trying to determine which Frank, wasn't sue if you knew)

Chris :)

Glyn

Glyn Report 17 Jan 2018 18:22

Thank you for all that information :-)

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 17 Jan 2018 16:56

Is that Frank below?...

(with Butt couple next door)

Chris :)

1939 Register (Find My Past)

49a Ridley Road , Bournemouth C.B., Hampshire
Frank Maidment 18 Dec 1879 Male Master Butcher Married


Marriages Mar 1919 (>99%)
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Butt Horace H Chant Christchurch 2b 1464
Chant Agnes L Butt Christchurch 2b 1464


(just wondered as a School Record for below Birth, his Father was John. Born 11/9/78)

MAIDMENT, FRANK (LAURENCE)
GRO Reference: 1878 S Quarter in OF MERE Volume 05A Page 229


Marriages Dec 1870 (>99%)
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LAWRENCE Jemima Mere 5a 481
MAIDMENT John Mere 5a 481


(other Parents)

Marriages Mar 1870 (>99%)
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Butt Emily Jane Mere 5a 303
MAIDMENT William Mere 5a 303

Glyn

Glyn Report 17 Jan 2018 08:06

That’s really helpful. Thank you. I will check out GRO website too.