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Elizabeth- the entry from PricklyHolly was taken from the 1939 register.

Ooops, sorry.....That was the 1939 Register Elizabeth.


Dorothy M Murray in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1916-2007
Name: Dorothy M Murray
Death Age: 44
Birth Date: abt 1908
Registration Date: Dec 1952
Registration district: Willesden
Inferred County: Middlesex
Volume: 5f
Page: 356


Dorothy Maud Murray in the England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations), 1858-1966, 1973-1995

Name: Dorothy Maud Murray
Death Date: 1 Nov 1953
Death Place: Middlesex, England
Probate Date: 19 Dec 1952
Registry: London, England

Of 36 Park-Chase, Wembley Park, Middlesex.... widow.

At Cental Middlesex Hospital, Acton-Lane London.

To Lillie Lavers...widow. Efects: £2377 8s 9d

Thank you re Lillie. I think Alfred died during the war.

There is a sad story about Lillie..basically she disowned my grandmother at birth..john’s twin. So my grandmother was brought up by her grandparents.

I would imagine Lillie was suffering from post natal depression...it affected my grandmother throughout her life

David's death?

Deaths Jun 1952 (>99%)
MURRAY David E 47 Willesden 5f 223

Gosh she was young when she died too...will have to find out how she died.

Sorry can you see when David died please?

Thank you so much

Ooh you have thank you

Probate for both can be viewed here:

https://probatesearch.service.gov.uk/Calendar?surname=murray&yearOfDeath=1952&page=3#calendar

Thank you all so much for your help.

I am thinking David and Dorothy didn’t have children .

Thank you

David E Murray in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1916-2007
Name: David E Murray
Death Age: 47
Birth Date: abt 1905
Registration Date: Jun 1952
Registration district: Willesden
Inferred County: Middlesex
Volume: 5f
Page: 223


David Easson Murray in the England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations), 1858-1966, 1973-1995

Name: David Easson Murray
Death Date: 25 Jun 1952
Death Place: Middlesex, England
Probate Date: 9 Aug 1952
Registry: London, England

Of 36 Park-Chase, Wembley Park, Middlesex.

At Willesden General Hospital London.

To Harold Albert Turner solicitor.

Effects: £419 8s 5d

Alfred Henry Lavers of 33 Beechcroft -gardens Wembley Middlesex died 29th Jan 1941 at Northwood Ruislip Middlesex Probate Llandudno 19th March 1942 to Lillie Lavers widow Effects: £1147 3s 2d

Thank you so much

Lillie Lavers of 3 Corringham road Wembley Middlesex died 4th Oct 1964 at Wembley Hospital Middlesex Probate London 1st Jan 1965 to John Vernon Green transp manager and Elsie Irene Green married woman Effects:£8010

Lillie Lavers in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1916-2007
Name: Lillie Lavers
Death Age: 85
Birth Date: abt 1879
Registration Date: Dec 1964
Registration district: Willesden
Inferred County: Middlesex
Volume: 5f
Page: 203


Lillie Lavers in the England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations), 1858-1966, 1973-1995
Name: Lillie Lavers
Death Date: 4 Oct 1964
Death Place: Middlesex, England
Probate Date: 1 Jan 1965
Registry: London, England


Of 3 Corringham Road, Wembley, Middlesex........at Wembly Hospital Middelsex.

To John Vernon Green...Transport Manager.....and Elsie Irene Green married woman.

Effects; £8010

Gosh thank you again.

All this is sad...my mother who was lillie’s grandaughter I think only ever saw Lillie a couple of times in her life.

She lived to a good age

Have posted all the possible Murray / Lavers births on page 1.
Can't say if any of them are relevant - not born in Willesden.

I would think that they didn’t have any children.

I really appreciate all the help I have been given this afternoon. :-)

This is the couple who Lillie mentioned in her Will

John V Green on the 1939 Register

Green Household (2 People) 76 Clock Hill Road , Wembley M.B., Middlesex, England

John Y Green 15 Jun 1901 Male Manager Road Transport Con Married 36 1
Elsie I Green 23 Mar 1900 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married 36 2

Elsie's maiden name was Nott

Thank you. Know idea who these people were..no relation.

Amazing to think I was born in 1961 and my sister 1963... my mum and grandmother had no communication with Lillie at this time..very sad from start to finish

This might be David Easson Murray

David Easson Murray in the UK, Royal Navy Registers of Seamen's Services, 1848-1939
Name: David Easson Murray
Gender: Male
Birth Date: 18 Oct 1903
Birth Place: Cellardyke, Fife
First Service Date: 8 Sep 1927
First Ship Served On: Victory II
Last Service Date: 4 Oct 1928
Last Ship Served On: Caradoc
Service Number: MX 46674


David E Murray on the 1939 Register

Wills Household (5 People) 12 Albert Terrace , Portland U.D., Dorset, England

David E Murray 18 Oct 1903 Male E R A Iron Defense Married 117 4 (I think the word "Iron" is actually "Boom")
James A Wills 12 Jun 1889 Male Rate Collector Married 117 1
Raymond H Wills 24 May 1924 Male Messenger Single 117 2
Ella (Mabel) Wills 03 Jun 1891 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married 117 3
Douglas G Wills 15 Oct 1918 Male Joiner Boat Builder Single 117 5


Boom defenses were used to protect ships and harbors from submarines and torpedoes during WW II.

Phyllis May Lavers in the 1911 census was already with her grandparents:-

1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Lower Walk Launceston, St Mary Magdalene, Cornwall, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Birth place Occupation

Thomas Wood Head Married Male 63 1848 Devon Honiton Currier
Selina Wood Wife Married Female 60 1851 Cornwall St Mellion -
Phyllis May Lavers Granddaughter - Female 5 1906 London Willesden Green School

and her parents with the other two children:-

1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
2 Wyndcliffe Mansions Lechmere Road Cricklewood N W, Willesden, Middlesex, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Birth place Occupation

Alfred Henry Lavers Head Married Male 30 1881 Yealmpton Devon Estimating Clerk
Lettie (Lillie on image) Lavers Wife Married Female 31 1880 Lancaster Cornwall Wife
John Henry Lavers Son Single Male 5 1906 Willesden Green Middx -
Dorothy Maude Lavers Daughter Single Female 3 1908 Hammersmith London

They do state on the image that they have 3 children. Perhaps Lillie just could not cope with more than one baby at a time.

Kath. x