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Elizabeth PATTERSON (nee MULLAN)

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Derek

Derek Report 1 Jan 2018 13:26

Marriage certificate ordered ....

Derek

Derek Report 30 Dec 2017 19:07

Thank you!

Rambling

Rambling Report 30 Dec 2017 18:35

Forwarding

"Andrew's father Charles Occ' merchant

Elizabeth's father Michael Occ' farmer"

AustinQ

AustinQ Report 30 Dec 2017 12:41

Death is on the same link

Derek

Derek Report 30 Dec 2017 11:43

Thank you, I'll follow that up. Where did you see the death details please so i can follow that up?

AustinQ

AustinQ Report 30 Dec 2017 10:53

The 1932 marriage gives her name as Elizabeth Jane Mullan- she was aged 22, Andrew was aged 30.

You need 5 credits to view the full details. (£2.50)

This is the link- I think you may need to register and buy at least one credit to view search results:

https://geni.nidirect.gov.uk/

Derek

Derek Report 30 Dec 2017 10:44

Having not used NIDirect before what are these credits you talk about? I could not view that this morning, maybe down? I will try again later.

You seem to think Jenny MULLEN could be Elizath/Eliza Jane MULLAN? Born circa 1911. The marriage might clear that up .... Is it possible to view the registry marriage online?

AustinQ

AustinQ Report 30 Dec 2017 09:15

If the 1955 death is correct then Andrew died in Omagh County Hospital. He is listed as a labourer, married, 'Late of Mill Street, Fintona'. (there is no middle name on the death registration).

These articles might be relevant:

Londonderry Sentinel 13 July 1950

FINTONA GIRL BOUND OVER AT RAPHOE
Seventeen years old, Morian Patterson, whose address was given as Mill Street, Fintona, Co. Tyrone, was bound over for three years when she appeared at Raphoe District Court on a charge of alleged stealing at Coney Burrow, Lifford, a ladies skirt, blouse and nightdress, the property of Esme Leydon.

T. Morrow for the defendant said she had been in the company of an elder couple who gave her drink. Next morning she was sent for some clothes by the elder woman and in a befuddled state she went into the wrong room and took articles of apparel, the property of another guest in the hotel.
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Belfast News-Letter 15 July 1942

Army Property
At Fintona petty sessions yesterday Mr J O H Long RM, sentenced Andrew Barr, Andrew Patterson and Thomas Mullan all of Mill Street, Fintona to 14 days imprisonment for having been found in possession of army property.

AustinQ

AustinQ Report 30 Dec 2017 08:08

This is the family in 1911:

Residents of a house 10 in Cranny (Fallaghern, Tyrone)

Mullen Michael 60 Male Head of Family RC Farmer
Mullen Catherine 36 Female Wife RC (married 19 yrs, 9 children)
Mullen Sarah 14 Female Daughter Roman Catholic
Mullen Annie 11 Female Daughter Roman Catholic
Mullen Thomas 8 Male Son Roman Catholic
Mullen Catherine 5 Female Daughter Roman Catholic
Mullen Ellen 3 Female Daughter Roman Catholic
Mullen Eliza Jane 3 months Female Daughter Roman Catholic

AustinQ

AustinQ Report 30 Dec 2017 08:03

Given the area, I think this birth is likely for Elizabeth Jane:

Lizzie Jane Mullin
Born: 23rd December 1910
Abode: Cranny
SR District/Reg Area Omagh
Father: Michael Mullin (Farmer)
Mother: Catherine Mullin (Formerly McCanaghan or Caraghan)

AustinQ

AustinQ Report 30 Dec 2017 07:27

Nyx- did they have the full details of the marriage with father's name to confirm the 1911 birth of Elizabeth Mullan was correct?

I don't have enough credits for NIdirect to see all the details but the ages on the registry office marriage for Elizabeth Jane was 22.

Bearing in mind spelling differences there are a couple of possibles for the birth of Elizabeth.

On his death, Andrew was listed as married.

Rambling

Rambling Report 29 Dec 2017 20:46

forwarding

info including copy of certs at https://geni.nidirect.gov.uk/https://geni.nidirect.gov.uk/

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 29 Dec 2017 19:15

A registry office marriage would not be recognised by the Roman Catholic Church, and therefore they would have to do it again in church.

Derek

Derek Report 29 Dec 2017 18:56

Interesting they married twice. Was this because he was Prodestant and she Roman Catholic one wonders ......

Derek

Derek Report 29 Dec 2017 18:53

Date of death definitely 17th November 1955. My original post was wrong. I have altered that - Sorry!

Only his name on headstone. One wonders if his wife could not be buried there if she was RC?

Rambling

Rambling Report 29 Dec 2017 18:46

Forwarding the following on behalf of someone looking in :-)

Andrew b 14 aug 1902 d Nov 17 1955

Married Elizabeth Jane Mullan 29 Oct 1932 registry office Omagh
Married Elizabeth Jane Mullan 9 Feb 1933 RC Church of Sacred Heart Omagh
There was an Elizabeth Mullan b 24 Non 1911 Benburb Tyrone

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 29 Dec 2017 18:13

When posting the travel records, I did wonder if perhaps he had married in the USA - though there don't seem to be records of him after 1936, and no sign of the marriage.

Louella sounds American - but maybe Andrew was just influenced by his time there.

AustinQ

AustinQ Report 29 Dec 2017 17:47

Your opening post gives a death year of 1966- you last post says 1955. I'm not seeing a death for 1955. Is it possible he died elsewhere and was brought to Ireland for burial?

Derek

Derek Report 29 Dec 2017 16:46

There is a headstone in Fintona Pres Church which states Andrew PATTERSON died 17th November 1955. His age and any details I give come from family hand me down info. I was told he married Jenny MULLEN (Could be Jennie, Jenny MULLEN, MULLIN. If MULLIN could be RC. PATTERSONS tend to be Prodestant).
It is said they had children Tilly, Louella, Layla, Ethel, Fred, John & Crawford. I have absolutely nothing on the children.

Andrew crossed pond to USA several times, sometimes with his brother James Beattie PATTERSON.

In the New Year I will try and get his death certificate and his marriage certificate.

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 29 Dec 2017 12:08

Is Jenny mentioned on Andrew's death cert?