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17 Dec 2017 23:20 |
Need a look up please. I have Elizabeth Ann Russell who married a Richard Whitehead at St Peter and St Pual church Milton Gravesend, 22 Sept 1851, I need to find the name of her father so I can proceed further. Found in the census she was born Rochester Kent in 1825 but unable to find her. Any help will be appreciated
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safc
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17 Dec 2017 23:34 |
marriage cert here
https://goo.gl/r1Kikp
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John
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17 Dec 2017 23:37 |
Thank you safc
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17 Dec 2017 23:37 |
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FreeReg Baptism entry Link for reporting error in transcription Field Value County Kent Place (link for place information) Rochester Church name St Nicholas of Myra Register type Parish Register Register entry number 1719 Baptism date 13 Sep 1829 Person forename Elizabeth Ann Person sex F Person abode St Nicholas Father forename William Father surname RUSSELL Father occupation Labourer Mother forename Hannah Witness Witness Register note Transcriber notes
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18 Dec 2017 00:09 |
This seems like it could be her, have been looking in the 1851 census a found an Elizabeth Russell b 1830 working as a servant for a Surgeon and living in Darnley Road Gravesend , after marrying Richard Whitehead , they lived in Darnley Grove which obviously in same area.
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John
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18 Dec 2017 00:25 |
Just unable to find William and Hannah Russell living around the Rochester area, perhaps they had both died by 1851
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18 Dec 2017 00:28 |
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se Search New Search Back to Results Previous Result Next Result Printable Format FreeReg Marriage entry Link for reporting error in transcription Field Value County Kent Place (link for place information) Rochester Church name St Margaret of Antioch Register type Parish Register Register entry number 790 Marriage date 27 Oct 1818 Groom forename William Groom surname RUSSELL Groom condition bachelor Bride forename Hannah Bride surname FRAZIER Bride condition spinster Witness Jane BOOTY Witness Elizabeth BONE Register note Record duplicated to cater for extra marriage witnesses Transcriber notes
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Maddie
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18 Dec 2017 10:16 |
????? William Last name Russell Birth year - Burial year 1827 Burial date 14 Jan 1827 Death year 1827 Residence St.margarets Place Rochester County Kent Country England Source St.Margarets Rochester 1813-1851 burials Record set Thames & Medway Burials Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records Subcategory Parish Burials Collections from England, Great Britain
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John
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18 Dec 2017 15:49 |
Well it seems like the same Russell family, although I see William Russell died in Jan 1827, yet the baptism for a Elizabet Ann wasn't until Sept 1829, Possible that Elizabth could have been born just before Williams death or after he died so the baptism was delayed.
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malyon
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18 Dec 2017 19:47 |
Relationship to Head of Household Head Birth Year (Estimated) 1807 Birthplace Brenchley, Kent Page Number 4 Registration Number HO107 Piece/Folio 1615 / 147 Affiliate Record Type Household Household Role Sex Age Birthplace William Russell Head M 44 Brenchley, Kent Hannah Russell Wife F 39 Seven Oaks, Kent William Russell Son M 19 Brenchley, Kent Mary Russell Daughter F 12 Tonbridge, Kent George Russell Son M 10 Tonbridge, Kent James Russell Son M 5 Tonbridge, Kent Frederick Russell Son M 3 Tonbridge, Kent
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malyon
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18 Dec 2017 19:52 |
William Russell mentioned in the record of Hannah Sarah Russell Name William Russell Sex Male Wife Hannah Daughter Hannah Sarah Russell Other information in the record of Hannah Sarah Russell from England Births and Christenings Name Hannah Sarah Russell Gender Female Christening Date 09 May 1824 Christening Date (Original) 09 MAY 1824 Christening Place SAINT NICHOLAS,ROCHESTER,KENT,ENGLAND Father's Name William Russell Mother's Name Hannah
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Chris Ho :)
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19 Dec 2017 08:24 |
https://www.freereg.org.uk/
(try a look round on above, 1827 Burial an Infant. See another 1830)
Chris :)
County Kent Place Milton next Gravesend Church name St Peter and St Paul Register type Parish Register Register entry number 455 Marriage date 19 Aug 1832 Groom forename Henry Groom surname AUSTEN Groom condition Bachelor Bride forename Hannah Bride surname RUSSELL Bride condition Widow Witness Alexander FRAZIER Witness Ann DAY Register note Bride and groom sign x.
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Kayak
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20 Dec 2017 15:08 |
Children of Henry & Hannah Austin of Milton next Gravesend father a Labourer: Bapt: 21/7/1833 James( Burial 17/1/1840 aged 6) Bapt: 17/5/1835 Ester Mary Born 15/7/1838 Bapt: 5/8/1838 Zenob? Clara
Family in the 1841 census:
England and Wales Census, 1841 Name: Henry Austin Titles and Terms: NULL Event Type: Census Event Date: 1841 Event Place: Frindsbury, Kent, England Residence Note: Bill Street Gender: Male Age: 35-39 Age (Original): 35 Occupation: Null Birth Year (Estimated): 1802-1806 Birthplace: Kent Registration District: Aylesford, North Parish: Frindsbury County: Kent Page Number: 25 Registration Number: HO107 Piece/Folio: 457/39 Affiliate Record Type: Institution Household Henry Austin Male 35-39 Kent Hannah Austin Female 35-39 Kent Hannah Russell Female 17-21 Kent Ester Austin Female 6 Kent Clara Austin Female 6 Kent<<<<(Zenoby Clara)
1851 census:
Henry Austin England and Wales Census, 1851 Name Henry Austin Event Type Census Event Date 1851 Event Place Milton Next Gravesend, Kent, England Registration District Gravesend & Milton Residence Note Bentley Street Gender Male Age 41 Marital Status Married Occupation Coal Labourer Relationship to Head of Household Head Birth Year (Estimated) 1810 Birthplace Ashford, Kent Page Number 41 Registration Number HO107 Piece/Folio 1608 / 300 Affiliate Record Type Household Household Henry Austin Head M 41 Ashford, Kent Hannah Austin Wife F 45 Rochester, Kent Zenoby Austin Daughter F 13 Gravesend, Kent<<<<<<<<<<<<< Hannah Russell Grand Daughter F 4 Dartford, Kent ********************* Lucy Johnson Lodger F 10 , Essex Charles Johnson Lodger M 3 Gravesend, Kent
<<<<<<<<<<<<<Birth reg: AUSTIN, LENOBE CLARA mothers maiden name FRAZIER GRO Reference: 1838 S Quarter in GRAVESEND AND MILTON Volume 05 page 171
**********Possible illegitimate daughter of Hannah Sarah Russell baptised 1821
Birth reg: RUSSELL, HANNAH GRO Reference: 1846 S Quarter in DARTFORD UNION Volume 05 Page 88
Place Dartford Church name Holy Trinity Register type Parish Register Register entry number 2019 Baptism date 14 Aug 1846 Person forename Hannah Sarah Person sex ? Person abode Dartford Union Mother forename Hannah Mother surname RUSSELL
1861 census ???
Henry Austin England and Wales Census, 1861 Name Henry Austin County Kent Event Type Census Event Date 1861 Event Place Milton, Kent, England Ecclesiastical Parish Holy Trinity Registration District Gravesend Residence Note Berkley Street Gender Male Age 57 Marital Status Married Occupation Coal Porter Relationship to Head of Household Head Birth Year (Estimated) 1804 Birthplace Redbridge, Kent Page Number 29 Registration Number RG09 Piece/Folio 470 / 18 Affiliate Record Type Household Household
Henry Austin Head M 57 Redbridge, Kent Hannah Austin Wife F 61 Redberth, Kent Zendy L Austin Daughter F 20 Milton And Gravesend, Kent Hannah S Russell F 14 Dartford, Kent
Possible baptism for Hannah Austin/Austen (formerly Russell (nee Fraizer)
County Kent Place (link for place information) Rochester Church name St Margaret of Antioch Register type Parish Register Baptism date 18 Oct 1801 Birth date 26 Sep 1801 Person forename Hannah Person sex F Father forename William Father surname FRAZIER Mother forename Hannah Register note
Burial for Henry Austin:
Henry Austin England Deaths and Burials Name Henry Austin Gender Male Abode: 4 Bentley Street Burial Date 08 Mar 1866 Burial Place Milton-Next-Gravesend, Kent, England Age 56 Birth Date 1810
1871 census:
Hannah Austin England and Wales Census, 1871 Name Hannah Austin Event Type Census Event Date 1871 Event Place Hammersmith, London, Middlesex, England Enumeration District 13 Gender Female Age 70 Marital Status Widowed Relationship to Head of Household Mother Birth Year (Estimated) 1801 Birthplace Rochester, Kent Entry Number 16 Affiliate Image Identifier GBC/1871/0062/0046 Household
T Clara Stephenson Head F 33 Gravesend, Kent <<<Zenoby??? Hannah Austin Mother F 70 Rochester, Kent
Marriage for Zenoby:
John Stephenson mentioned in the record of John Stephenson and Zenoby Clara Austin Name John Stephenson Spouse's Name Zenoby Clara Austin Event Date 03 Jul 1870 Event Place Hammersmith, Middlesex, England Father's Name James Stephenson Spouse's Father's Name Henry Austin Marital Status Single Spouse's Marital Status Single
Possible death for Hannah:
Hannah Austin England and Wales Death Registration Index 1837-2007 Name Hannah Austin Event Type Death Registration Quarter Jan-Feb-Mar Registration Year 1878 Registration District Gravesend County Kent Event Place Gravesend, Kent, England Age (available after 1866) 77 Birth Year (Estimated) 1801 Volume 2A Page 271 Line Number 372
Burial: Hannah Austin England Deaths and Burials Name Hannah Austin Gender Female Burial Date 12 Feb 1878 Burial Place Milton-Next-Gravesend, Kent, England Age 78 Birth Date 1800
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20 Dec 2017 15:48 |
Possible marriage for Hannah Fraziers parents:
County Kent Place (link for place information) Rochester Church name St Margaret of Antioch Register type Parish Register Register entry number 1098 Marriage date 14 Apr 1799 Groom forename William Groom surname FRAZIER Groom condition bachelor Groom parish Of this Parish Bride forename Hannah Bride surname HILLS Bride condition spinster Bride parish Of this Parish Witness Robert JUDD Witness Edward IRISH
Possible 1841 census:
William Frasier England and Wales Census, 1841 Name William Frasier Titles and Terms NULL Event Type Census Event Date 1841 Event Place St Margaret, Kent, England Residence Note Henry Street Gender Male Age 68-72 Age (Original) 68 Occupation Null Birth Year (Estimated) 1769-1773 Birthplace Kent Registration District Medway Parish St Margaret County Kent Page Number 9 Registration Number HO107 Piece/Folio 491/8 Affiliate Record Type Institution Household
William Frasier M 68-72 Kent Ann Frasier F 59-63 Kent George Frasier M 19-23 Kent Henry Frasier M 14 Kent
Possible children: (Hannah already given)
County Kent Place (link for place information) Rochester Church name St Margaret of Antioch Register type Parish Register Baptism date 18 Apr 1800 Birth date 27 Mar 1800 Person forename Hester Person sex F Father forename William Father surname FRAZIER Mother forename Hannah
County Kent Place (link for place information) Rochester Church name St Margaret of Antioch Register type Parish Register Baptism date 19 Aug 1803 Birth date 01 Aug 1803 Person forename William Father forename William Father surname FRAZIER Mother forename Hannah
County Kent Place (link for place information) Rochester Church name St Margaret of Antioch Register type Parish Register Baptism date 24 Nov 1805 Birth date 20 Oct 1805 Person forename Sarah Father forename William Father surname FRAZIER Mother forename Hannah
County Kent Place (link for place information) Rochester Church name St Nicholas of Myra Register type Parish Register Baptism date 08 Oct 1809 Birth date 09 Sep * Person forename Elizabeth Person sex F Father forename William Father surname FRAZIER Mother forename Ann
County Kent Place (link for place information) Rochester Church name St Nicholas of Myra Register type Parish Register Baptism date 24 Nov 1811 Birth date 24 Oct * Person forename Alexander Person sex M Father forename William Father surname FRAZIER Mother forename Ann
County Kent Place (link for place information) Rochester Church name St Nicholas of Myra Register type Parish Register Register entry number 195 Baptism date 20 Nov 1814 Person forename John Person sex M Person abode St Nicholas Father forename William Father surname FRAZIER Father occupation Gardener Mother forename Anne
County Kent Place (link for place information) Rochester Church name St Nicholas of Myra Register type Parish Register Register entry number 987 Baptism date 23 Jun 1822 Birth date 2_ May * Person forename George Henry Person sex M Person abode St Nicholas Father forename William Father surname FRAZIER Father occupation Gardener Mother forename Anne
County Kent Place (link for place information) Rochester Church name St Nicholas of Myra Register type Parish Register Register entry number 1431 Baptism date 08 Oct 1826 Person forename Henry Person sex M Person abode St Nicholas Father forename William Father surname FRAZIER Father occupation Mariner Mother forename Ann
Possible burial for William:
County Kent Place (link for place information) Rochester Church name St Margaret of Antioch Register type Parish Register Register entry number 922 Burial date 04 Sep 1846 Person age 72 Burial person forename William Burial person surname FRAZIER Burial person abode Henry Street, St. Margaret's<<<<<<<<<< Register note Transcriber notes
<<<<<<<<<<<Address matches the 1841 census
possible burial for Hannah/Ann
County Kent Place (link for place information) Rochester Church name St Margaret of Antioch Register type Parish Register Register entry number 1457 Burial date 09 Nov 1851 Person age 70 Burial person forename Ann Burial person surname FRAZIER Burial person abode Old Hospital, St. Margaret's Register note Transcriber notes
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20 Dec 2017 16:44 |
Thank you so much for the info above. I am doing a Whitehead Tree. The name Zenoby I have in the tree of Richard Whitehead which I got off a tree on Ancestry, she is the daughter Richard and an Elizabeth Ann Russell. The name coming up as Austin has kind of thrown me now. Zenoby is such an unusual name to find,
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20 Dec 2017 17:14 |
I should think that the Z has been transcribed wrongly as an L on the GRO index. This looks to be the right person in the below marriage.
If you can look at the original of Tiggit's 1851 census transcription posted earlier I thought her name looked more like ZenAby and on the original of the marriage below it's possible she has signed ZanAby, although the vicar has written ZenOby.
VIEW London, England, Church of England Marriages and Banns, 1754-1931
Name: Zenoby Clara Austin Record Type: Marriage Marriage Date: 3 Jul 1870 Marriage Place: Saint Paul, Hammersmith, Hammersmith and Fulham, England Father: Henry Austin Spouse: John Stephenson
John of Gravesend is a Master Mariner as is his Father James. Zenoby is resident in Hammersmith at the time of Marriage. Her Father is recorded as Henry Austin an Engineer
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20 Dec 2017 17:43 |
Having thoroughly digesting it all, I see it was Hannah Russell nee Frazier who married Henry Austen in 1832 and they had a daughter Zenoby Clara in 1842. Whereas Richard Whitehead and Elizabeth Ann nee Russell had their daughter Zenoby Mary in 1859. . So Zenoby Clara b 1842 was in fact the half sister to Elizabeth A Whitehead.
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