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5 Dec 2017 15:26 |
1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription 2 Montrose Terrace Thornaby on Tees, Thornaby, Yorkshire & Yorkshire (North Riding), England
Henry Kelley Head Married Male Ship Plater 39 1872 Yorkshire South Stockton Pauline A N Kelley Wife Married Female - 37 1874 Yorkshire Middlesbrough Bertha E Kelley Daughter Single Female - 11 1900 Yorkshire Thornaby
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5 Dec 2017 15:30 |
The 1911 census says married 14 years, 2 children born and 2 living.
Here they are in 1901 showing the other child.
1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription 3, Back Trafalgar Street, Thornaby, Middlesbrough, Yorkshire & Yorkshire (North Riding), England
Henry Kelley Head Married Male 29 1872 Shipyard Plater Yorkshire, England Pauline Kelley Wife Married Female 27 1874 - Middlesbrough, Yorkshire, England Ethel Kelley Daughter - Female 4 1897 - Yorkshire, England Bertha Kelley Daughter - Female 1 1900 - Yorkshire, England
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5 Dec 2017 15:38 |
First name(s) HENRY Last name KELLEY Marriage quarter 1 Marriage year 1896 Registration month - MarriageFinder™ HENRY KELLEY married one of these people Pauline Augusta Ross, Emma Nicholson District Middlesbrough District number - County Yorkshire Country England Volume 9D Page number 779 Record set England & Wales Marriages 1837-2005 Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records Subcategory Civil Marriage & Divorce Collections from Great Britain, England © brightsolid online publishing ltd
You know from Bertha's death registration that her mother's maiden surname was Ross so Henry married Pauline Augusta Ross
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5 Dec 2017 15:44 |
1939 Register, in association with The National Archive Pauline A N Kelley on the 1939 Register
1939 REGISTER TRANSCRIPTION Kelley Household (5 People) 32 Chelmsford Street , Thornaby-on-Tees M.B., Yorkshire (North Riding), England Pauline A N Kelley DOB 29 Jul 1873 SEX Female OCCUPATION Unpaid Domestic Duties MARITAL STATUS Widowed SCHEDULE 169 SCHEDULE SUB NUMBER 1
Thomas Thurlbeck
Albert ? Bell
Ida Bell
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5 Dec 2017 15:49 |
First name(s) HENRY Last name KELLEY Gender Male Birth day - Birth month - Birth year 1872 Age 51 Death quarter 1 Death year 1923 District Middlesbrough County Yorkshire Volume 9D Page 736 Country England Record set England & Wales Deaths 1837-2007 Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records Subcategory Civil Deaths & Burials Collections from Great Britain, England © Findmypast
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5 Dec 2017 15:51 |
PAULINE A N Last name KELLEY Gender Female Birth day - Birth month - Birth year 1874 Age 79 Death quarter 1 Death year 1953 District Cleveland County Yorkshire Volume 1B Page 737 Country England Record set England & Wales Deaths 1837-2007 Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records Subcategory Civil Deaths & Burials Collections from Great Britain, England © Findmypast
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6 Dec 2017 07:11 |
RG is right, I couldn't see her birth in Scotland so searched the GRO and found a match:
KELLEY, BERTHA ELLA (Mother's maiden name: ROSS) GRO Reference: 1899 D Quarter in MIDDLESBROUGH Volume 09D Page 631 ----------------------------------------------
and then found her baptism (from FMP) and index to parent's marriage:
Baptism: First name(s) Bertha Ella Last name Kelley Baptism year 1899 Baptism date 15 Nov 1899 Baptism place Thornaby Denomination Anglican Father's first name(s) Henry Mother's first name(s) Pauline County Yorkshire (North Riding) Archive Teesside Archives Page 276 Record set Yorkshire Baptisms --------------------
Baptism of sister Ethel:
First name(s) Ethel May Last name Kelly Baptism year 1896 Baptism date 22 Nov 1896 Baptism place Thornaby Denomination Anglican Father's first name(s) Henry Mother's first name(s) Pauline Augusta Milson County Yorkshire (North Riding) -----------------------
Also another sister, Ida born 1914- she married Albert Bell in 1936. The 1939 register posted by RG above shows Ida and Albert living with Ida's mum, Pauline.
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6 Dec 2017 07:24 |
Charles in 1923 travelling to Australia:
Passenger Lists leaving UK 1890-1960 First name(s) Charles Flood Last name Cameron Gender Male Age 21 Birth year 1902 Departure year 25 August 1923 Departure port London Destination port Fremantle Destination FREMANTLE State Western Australia Country Australia Destination country Australia Ship name Bendigo Ship official number 145897
Last UK address: 3 Eyre Place, Edinburgh Country of intended permanent residence: Australia
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6 Dec 2017 07:52 |
Looks like a possible daughter born to Charles and Bertha in 1936 (Ella- she married surname Fraser 1956)
Details a little sketchy as she appears to be still living (Edinburgh)
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6 Dec 2017 13:37 |
Austin Q - thanx. Indeed there was an Ella born to Charles & Bertha. I also had found out about Charles Flood going to Australia in 1923 to visit his sister Louisa Flood Cook who was my grandmother. She died in 1924. I'm impressed how you can find all that out. Tell me what does GRO and FMP stand for?
Rootgatherer - thanx for info. I'm amazed at how much you can find out. If I get on scotlandspeople or genesreunited it costs me! I can't imagine you'd be paying for anything on my behalf, so how do you do it?
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6 Dec 2017 13:54 |
Ok FMP is findmypast! GRO please....
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6 Dec 2017 14:52 |
GRO- General Register Office
You can register for free and search the indexes. It is useful to use to find mother's maiden names of registered births before 1911.
https://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/ ------------------------------------
I don't think many of us use Genesreunited to access records- most of us have subscriptions for Ancestry or Find My Past.
Whilst you can't view most original records for free on Scotland's People, there is a knack to using the free search facility to access as much information as you can without using credits.
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6 Dec 2017 15:11 |
1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription Rossie Place, 21, Edinburgh, Canongate, Midlothian,
Thomas H Cameron Head Married Male 40 1861 Bookseller's Assistant Cockpen, Midlothian, Mary Ann Cameron Wife Married Female 40 1861 - Ireland William Cameron Son - Male 10 1891 Scholar Edinburgh, Midlothian, Scotland Peter Cameron Son - Male 9 1892 Scholar Edinburgh, Midlothian, Scotland Louisa Cameron Daughter - Female 5 1896 Scholar Edinburgh, Midlothian, Scotland Eliza Cameron Daughter - Female 4 1897 - Edinburgh, Midlothian, Scotland Robert Cameron Son - Male 1 1900 - Edinburgh, Midlothian, Scotland Louisa Flood Niece Single Female 15 1886 Fruiterer's Assistant Edinburgh, Midlothian, Scotland ------------------------------
Searching for Thomas on the 1911 at Scotland's people gives us free results of:
THOMAS H CAMERON Male 50 Ref: 685/2 25/ 4 St Andrew Midlothian
Extending the search to other Camerons in the same household in 1911 (Surname Cameron, in District St Andrews) we can see by the reference number the other Camerons living with Thomas:
MARY A CAMERON 50 female Ref: 685/2 25/ 4 LOUISA CAMERON 15 Female Ref: 685/2 25/ 4 ELIZA CAMERON 14 Female Ref: 685/2 25/ 4
ROBERT CAMERON 11 Male Ref: 685/2 25/ 4
CHARLIE CAMERON 9 Male Ref: 685/2 25/ 4
MARY CAMERON 6 Female Ref: 685/2 25/ 4 CHRISTOPHER G CAMERON 51 Male Ref: 685/2 25/ 4 WILHELMINA CAMERON 89 Female Ref: 685/2 25/ 4
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Using the free valuation roll search on Scotlandspeople confirms that the address that Charles gave in 1923 when travelling to Australia was his father's address:
1915/ 1920/ 1925/ 1930/ 1935 THOMAS HENRY CAMERON Tenant Occupier Addresss: HOUSE 3A EYRE PLACE, EDINBURGH ------------------------------
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6 Dec 2017 22:15 |
Helpers are quite happy to use their subs to FindMyPast, Ancestry or indeed any site they have a sub for to help others with their research. Some even use a few credits for Scotlandspeople to help others if it's a one off.
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6 Dec 2017 22:20 |
1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription Raes Buildings, St Cuthbert Edinburgh, Canongate, Midlothian, Scotland
Thomas H Cameron Head Married Male 30 1861 Bookseller Midlothian, Scotland Mary Ann Cameron Wife Married Female 30 1861 - Ireland William Cameron Son - Male 9 1882 Scholar Midlothian, Scotland Peter Flood Father-In-Law Widower Male 59 1832 Army Pensioner & Masons Labourer Aberdeenshire, Scotland
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6 Dec 2017 22:24 |
1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription 17, Earl Grey Street, St Cuthberts, St George, Midlothian, Scotland
Marion Gibson Head Widow Female 56 1825 Dairy Shop Keeper Carluke, Lanarkshire, Scotland Jessie Gibson Daughter Unmarried Female 36 1845 Dairy Shop Keeper Carluke, Lanarkshire, Scotland William Gibson Son Unmarried Male 30 1851 Engine Keeper At Quarry Carluke, Lanarkshire, Scotland Maggie Gibson Daughter Unmarried Female 28 1853 - Carluke, Lanarkshire, Scotland James Beattie Grandson - Male 12 1869 Scholar Edinburgh, Midlothian, Scotland Jessie Beattie Granddaughter - Female 10 1871 Scholar Edinburgh, Midlothian, Scotland James Ainslie Head Married Male 25 1856 Bookbinders Forwarder Midlothian, Scotland Elizabeth S Ainslie Wife Married Female 30 1851 - Midlothian, Scotland James Ainslie Son - Male 1 1880 - Midlothian, Scotland Thomas H Cameron Brother-In-Law Unmarried Male 20 1861 Booksellers Packer Midlothian, Scotland Isabella Reid - Unmarried Female 70 1811 Formerly Domestic Servt Dumfries, Dumfriesshire, Scotland
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6 Dec 2017 22:33 |
The Wilhelmina Cameron with the family on the 1911 census died in 1912 in Edinburgh aged 90 years. Her other surname was Gibson.
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6 Dec 2017 22:39 |
Here's her marriage in 1849
Date Parish Number Ref Parish Image View GIBSON WILHELMINA WILLIAM HODGES/CAMERON FR2597 (FR2597) 07/06/1849 685/2 460 554 St Cuthbert's
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6 Dec 2017 22:42 |
1861 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription Princes Street, Edinburgh, St Andrews, Midlothian, Scotland
William H Cameron Head Married Male 41 1820 - Edinburgh, Midlothian, Scotland Wilhelmina Cameron Wife Married Female 39 1822 - Edinburgh, Midlothian, Scotland Isabella M Cameron Daughter Unmarried Female 10 1851 Scholar Edinburgh, Midlothian, Scotland Christopher P Cameron Son Unmarried Male 1 1860 - Edinburgh, Midlothian, Scotland Barbara Finlay Servant Unmarried Female 28 1833 General Serv New Deer, Aberdeenshire, Scotland Margaret Clayborn Servant Unmarried Female 21 1840 General Serv Midlothian, Scotland
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6 Dec 2017 22:54 |
Thomas Henry Cameron died aged 78 years in Edinburgh in 1939
Mary Ann Cameron, maiden name Flood died aged 87 years in Edinburgh in 1948
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