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so I requested a copy of the will and it appears the estate has been left in possession of an "heir hunters" company in lieu of locating the sister Constance King. I have emailed the company to see if they have located Constance however I am guessing this means my biological Grandmother did not have any other children etc after my mum. All you help is appreciated and I wouldn't have found any of this information without your support. Hopefully I can continue researching the family for my family tree and continue with the search

I was thinking of that and also requested a copy of the will from probate maybe that will contain some leads thanks a lot for all your help much appreciated

You could write to the undertakers mentioned in the obituary I posted earlier.

They might be able to put you in touch with her relatives - or whoever arranged the funeral.

Joan M Stubbs (King) on the 1939 Register

King Household (4 People) 18 The Parade , Neston U.D., Cheshire, England

Fred King 02 May 1892 Male Head Keeper Public Elementary School Married 178 1
Constance King 03 Nov 1904 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married 178 2
Joan M Stubbs (King) 10 Apr 1932 Female At School Single 178 3
Closed Record


Fred King in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1916-2007
Name: Fred King
Death Age: 90
Birth Date: 2 May 1892
Registration Date: Dec 1982
Registration district: Halton
Inferred County: Cheshire
Volume: 35
Page: 0592


Constance May King in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1916-2007
Name: Constance May King
Death Age: 65
Birth Date: 3 Nov 1904
Registration Date: Dec 1969
Registration district: Liverpool
Inferred County: Lancashire
Volume: 10d
Page: 1339


???

ARCHER, CONSTANCE MAY MMN SHOTBOLT
GRO Reference: 1904 D Quarter in WALSINGHAM Volume 04B Page 269


1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
23 High St Lynn, St Margarets, Norfolk, England

John George Archer Head Married Male Book Seller Stationers Manager 31 1880 Lincoln Horbling
Lillie Maud Archer Wife Married Female - 31 1880 Lincoln Spalding
Constance May Archer Daughter - Female - 6 1905 Norfolk Melton Constable
Gladys Muriel Archer Daughter - Female - 2 1909 Norfolk Kings Lynn
Violet May Garrett Servant Single Female General Servant Domestic 20 1891 Norfolk Tilney St Lawrence

A son born 1913

Births Jun 1913 (>99%)
Archer Stanley G Shotbolt King's L. 4b 560


Marriages Dec 1903 (>99%)
ARCHER John George Spalding 7a 800
Shotbolt Lillie Maud Spalding 7a 800

Edit: The son Stanley.......

??

Stanley Archer in the UK, Army Roll of Honour, 1939-1945
Name: Stanley Archer
Given Initials: S G
Rank: Corporal
Death Date: 2 Oct 1944
Number: 185340
Birth Place: Norfolk
Residence: Lancashire
Branch at Enlistment: Other Corps
Theatre of War: Western Europe Campaign, 1944/45
Regiment at Death: Royal Army Service Corps
Branch at Death: Other Corps


Stanley George Archer in the England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations), 1858-1966, 1973-1995
Name: Stanley George Archer
Death Date: 2 Oct 1944
Death Place: Lincolnshire, Lincoln, England
Probate Date: 1 Mar 1945
Registry: Liverpool, England

Of The Poplars Cowbit Spalding Lincolnshire...Died 2 Oct 1944 on war service.

To The National Provincial Bank Ltd....Effects: £6915 12s 10d

Prickles ;o))

Thank you so much for the information we did receive info from the Salvation Army and you are correct Joan Stubbs is my biological grandmother just sad she passed so recently and we didn't find out sooner but I believe someone must have posted in the newspaper so she must have family going to keep digging thanks for all your help

There's a Stubbs / King birth of a possible daughter in Macclesfield in 1977.

See on FreeBMD.

It looks like she had a sister Constance p born in 1934

Details on freebmd

Joan had a sister born in 1934.

Dea x

https://probatesearch.service.gov.uk/

STUBBS JOAN MARION
Date of probate - 01 May 2015
Probate number - 4579623
Date of death -04 June 2014
Grant only Ipswich

If her parents married in Lancashire, this is possibly their marriage:

Marriages Mar 1930 (>99%)
Archer Constance M King Preston 8e 790
King Fred Archer Preston 8e 790

??? Born June 1932.


Obituary

STUBBS - JOAN MARION, June 4th, 2014. Peacefully, aged 82 years. Service and Cremation at Anfield Crematorium on Thursday, June 19th at 10.00 a.m.
Published in the Liverpool Echo on 13th June 2014



Another version:


Obituary
Published in the Liverpool Echo on 17th June 2014 (Distributed in Liverpool)

STUBBS - JOAN MARION, June 4th, 2014. Peacefully in hospital, aged 82 years. Joan will be very sadly missed by all who knew her. Funeral Service and Cremation to be held at Anfield Crematorium on Thursday, June 19th at 10.00 a.m. Flowers and further enquiries to W. Craven Ltd., Broadgreen Road, Liverpool, 13. Tel: 0151 228 3900.

all the joan m kings were married in the 1940's but this one is 1976


Joan M King
mentioned in the record of Stubbs and Joan M King
Name
Joan M King
Event Type
Marriage Registration
Registration Quarter
Apr-May-Jun
Registration Year
1976
Registration District
Liverpool
County
Lancashire
Event Place
Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Spouse Name (available after 1911)
Stubbs
Volume
36
Page
0491
Line Number
62
 
Joan M King probably married one of the following people
Name
John J Stubbs

i will double check thank you so much for your help

Can't the Samaritans tell you her surname at death?

Her death is too recent for us to be able to find it online, except perhaps a newspaper obituary, but her surname at death would help us to find her marriage.

Without that, there are too many marriages of women named Joan King or Joan M King for us to be able to say which one might be hers.

maternal grandmother was born Joan M King in West derby district Lancashire June 1932
Mother was born Linda J King in South Liverpool district May 1960 and she was fostered shortly after

I think my maternal grandmother was married after 1960 and the samaritans have provided evidence that she died in 2014.....I havent seen it so looking for a marriage record really to confirm.

Have you looked on freebmd for a possible marriage
Where was your mum born so as to locate a possible marriage


The name isn't unusual so there are several records

Hi after obtaining records I have located my maternal grandmother Joan M King born in West Derby Liverpool 1932. Her mothers maiden name was Archer as detailed on her birth record. I have been informed that my maternal grandmother Joan M King married and died in 2014 however I am wanting to locate the records confirming this. I am searching marriage records as I believe she would have married after 1960 which is the year of my mums birth. Any tips on how to narrow it down.