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Elizabeth Nicholson 1835

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Pauline

Pauline Report 19 Nov 2017 19:32

Could anyone help me find ELIZABETH NICHOLSON 1835 born Camerton Seaton Workington Cumberland was married to Benjamin Furness
Thank you

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 19 Nov 2017 19:47

Have you got her marriage certificate?

The name of her father could be on there, or a family member could have been a witness.

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 19 Nov 2017 19:51

Are you SURE that Elizabeth Nicholson married Benjamin Furness????

This is the only marriage showing up on Freebmd .................. and Elizabeth would have been only 5 years old!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Marriages Sep 1840 (>99%)
ATKINSON Hannah Whitehaven 25 131
FURNESS Benjamin Whitehaven 25 131
MILES Ann Whitehaven 25 131
NICHOLSON Elizabeth Whitehaven 25 131
NICHOLSON James Whitehaven 25 131
PROBART Sarah Whitehaven 25 131
SHERWEN Robert Whitehaven 25 131
STODDART John Whitehaven 25 131

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 19 Nov 2017 19:56

Is this the one you are looking for???????????

1871 Census

Name: Elizabeth Furnace
[Elizabeth Furness]
Age: 36
Estimated birth year: abt 1835
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: Benjamin Furnace
Gender: Female
Where born: Camerton, Cumberland, England
Civil Parish: Flimby
County/Island: Cumberland
Country: England
Registration district: Cockermouth
Sub-registration district: Maryport
ED, institution, or vessel: 7
Household schedule number: 306
Piece: 5245
Folio: 55
Page Number: 68

Benjamin Furnace 39 b.ca 1832, Workington, Cumberland
Elizabeth Furnace 36
Isabella Furnace 15
Tesfinn Furnace 7
Joseph Furnace 2
Mary A Mitchell 17

Pauline

Pauline Report 19 Nov 2017 19:58

In 1861 census he is 28 and Elizabeth 25 thank you I will see if her name was Nicholson maybe I have got it wrong

Pauline

Pauline Report 19 Nov 2017 19:59

yes that's the one

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 19 Nov 2017 20:08

Joseph Furness was born ca 1869, registered in Cockermouth, the registration district that includes Camerton

BUT his mmn is Dover according to the GRO Index

FURNESS, JOSEPH mmn DOVER Order
GRO Reference: 1869 M Quarter in COCKERMOUTH Volume 10B Page 525


I can't see a marraige for aBenjamin Furness to an Elizabeth Dover, there is a marriage of a Benjamin Fpossibly to an Elizabeth Hanson in Halifax in 1871


Marriages Dec 1871 (>99%)
COCKCROFT Charles William Halifax 9a 838
Furness Benjamin Halifax 9a 838
Gledhill Ruth Halifax 9a 838 Scan
Hanson Elizabeth Halifax 9a 838

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 19 Nov 2017 20:23

?????????

Is this Tesfinn (Jesfinn) on the 1871 Census??

FURNACE, JOSEPHINE mmn DOVER
GRO Reference: 1864 M Quarter in COCKERMOUTH Volume 10B Page 507

Rambling

Rambling Report 19 Nov 2017 21:02

for ref

1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Camerton, Cockermouth, Cumberland, England

Benjamin Furness Head Married Male 49 1832 Coalminer Workington, Cumberland, England
Elizabeth Furness Wife Married Female 45 1836 Coalminers Wife Workington, Cumberland, England
Jessy Furness Daughter Single Female 17 1864 Coalminers Daughter Camerton, Cumberland, England
Joseph Furness Son Single Male 12 1869 Coalminers Son Camerton, Cumberland, England
John Furness Son Single Male 9 1872 Scholar Camerton, Cumberland, England
William Furness Grand Son Single Male 5 1876 Scholar Camerton, Cumberland, England
Benjamin Furness Son Single Male 5 1876 Scholar Camerton, Cumberland, England
James Furness Granson Single Male 0 1881 - Camerton, Cumberland, England

Rambling

Rambling Report 19 Nov 2017 21:07

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1841 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Town, Camerton, Cockermouth, Cumberland, England

Joseph Dover Male 30 1811 Cumberland, England
Arabella Dover Female 25 1816 Cumberland, England
John Dover Male 9 1832 Cumberland, England
Elizabeth Dover Female 5 1836 Cumberland, England <<<<<<
Mary Dover Female 2 1839 Cumberland, England

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 19 Nov 2017 21:09

Two of the children showing on the 1881 Census also have mmn Dover ...............

FURNESS, JOHN mmn DOVER
GRO Reference: 1872 J Quarter in COCKERMOUTH Volume 10B Page 539

FURNESS, BENJAMIN mmn DOVER
GRO Reference: 1875 J Quarter in COCKERMOUTH Volume 10B Page 578


I haven't yet seen a marriage for a Benjamin Furness with a woman called Dover

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 19 Nov 2017 21:16

Is there any possibility that Elizabeth Dover might have married a Mr Nicholson, left him and moved in with Benjamin.

That would account for no marriage being found.

Dea

Dea Report 19 Nov 2017 21:36

Together in 1861:


1861 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
24, Lother Street, Great Clifton, Cockermouth, Cumberland, England

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Household Members
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Benjamin Furness Head Married Male 28 1833 Coal Miner Workington, Cumberland, England
Transcription
Elizabeth Furness Wife Married Female 25 1836 - Seaton, Cumberland, England
Transcription
Mary Ann Furness Daughter Unmarried Female 7 1854 - Northumberland, England
Transcription
Isabella Furness Daughter Unmarried Female 4 1857 - Durham, England

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SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 19 Nov 2017 21:47

Dea ..................

see if you can find an Isabella or Mary Ann Furness!

I've tried, without success

I can find similar names under Dover

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 19 Nov 2017 22:37

If it was Elizabeth Dover who married or lived with Benjamin Furness, then this could be her baptism ................. note her parents names!


England, Births & Baptisms 1538-1975

First name(s) Elizabeth
Last name Dover
Gender Female
Birth year -
Birth place -
Baptism year 1835
Baptism date 09 Aug 1835
Residence Camerton, Cumberland, England
Place Camerton
County Cumberland
Country England
Father's first name(s) Joseph
Father's last name Dover
Mother's first name(s) Isabella
Mother's last name -
Record set England Births & Baptisms 1538-1975
Category Life Events (BDMs)
Subcategory Parish Baptisms
Collections from England, United Kingdom

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 19 Nov 2017 22:41

and ??? Benjamin's baptism


England, Births & Baptisms 1538-1975

First name(s) Benjamin
Last name Furness
Gender Male
Birth year -
Birth place -
Baptism year 1832
Baptism date 24 Jan 1832
Residence Workington, Cumberland, England
Place Workington
County Cumberland
Country England
Father's first name(s) John
Father's last name Furness
Mother's first name(s) Mary Ann
Mother's last name -
Record set England Births & Baptisms 1538-1975
Category Life Events (BDMs)
Subcategory Parish Baptisms
Collections from England, United Kingdom

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 19 Nov 2017 22:52

Found Mary Ann Furness's birth registration ...... she was registered in Durham, and mmn is Dover

FURNESS, MARY ANN mmn DOVER
GRO Reference: 1854 M Quarter in DURHAM Volume 10A Page 172


and Isabella's

FURNACE, ISABELLA JANE mmn DOVER
GRO Reference: 1856 S Quarter in CHESTER LE STREET Volume 10A Page 324

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 19 Nov 2017 23:02

More baptisms (all from FMP)


England, Births & Baptisms 1538-1975

First name(s) Mary Ann
Last name Furness
Gender Female
Birth year -
Birth place -
Baptism year 1854
Baptism date 14 May 1854
Place Medomsley
County Durham
Country England
Father's first name(s) Benjamin
Father's last name Furness
Mother's first name(s) Elizabeth
Mother's last name -
Record set England Births & Baptisms 1538-1975
Category Life Events (BDMs)
Subcategory Parish Baptisms
Collections from England, United Kingdom


First name(s) Josephine
Last name Furness
Gender Female
Birth year -
Birth place -
Baptism year 1864
Baptism date 03 Apr 1864
Residence Camerton, Cumberland, England
Place Camerton
County Cumberland
Country England
Father's first name(s) Benjamin
Father's last name Furness
Father's name note Miner
Mother's first name(s) Elizabeth
Mother's last name -
Record set England Births & Baptisms 1538-1975
Category Life Events (BDMs)
Subcategory Parish Baptisms
Collections from England, United Kingdom


First name(s) Joseph
Last name Furnes
Gender Male
Birth year -
Birth place -
Baptism year 1869
Baptism date 14 Feb 1869
Residence Camerton, Cumberland, England
Place Camerton
County Cumberland
Country England
Father's first name(s) Benjamin
Father's last name Furnes
Father's name note Miner
Mother's first name(s) Elizabeth
Mother's last name -
Record set England Births & Baptisms 1538-1975
Category Life Events (BDMs)
Subcategory Parish Baptisms
Collections from England, United Kingdom

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 20 Nov 2017 01:13

This looks like Elizabeth in 1851 .................... "Perton" looks more like Seaton on the image!

1851 Census

Name: Elizabeth Dover
Age: 15
Estimated birth year: abt 1836
Relation: Servant
Gender: Female
Where born: Perton, Cumberland, England
Civil Parish: Isell, Blindcrake, and Redmain
County/Island: Cumberland
Country: England

Registration district: Cockermouth
Sub-registration district: Keswick
ED, institution, or vessel: 14

Household schedule number: 24
Piece: 2434
Folio: 542
Page Number: 8

John Dow 34 Farmer of 126 Acres
Jane Dow 37
John Dow 1
Thomas Dow 32
Rachel Gordon 13
Elizabeth Dover 15
Joseph Rowling 45

Address:- no individual addresses given for the farms

Dea

Dea Report 20 Nov 2017 07:16

'Morning Sylvia.......

Yes, that's what I had found too.

I also found that Joseph Dover had probably died in 1949 and that Mary Dover was living with her aunt + uncle but couldn't see any trace of Arabella.

I wondered if she had remarried, perhaps accounting for the 'Nicholson' name ? but couldn't find anything.


1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Bridekirk, Cockermouth, Cumberland, England

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Household Members
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Jonathan Carruthers Head Married Male 24 1827 Farm Labourer Great Broughton, Cumberland, England
Transcription
Mary Carruthers Wife Married Female 27 1824 - Camerton, Cumberland, England
Transcription
John Willian Carruthers Son - Male - - - Little Broughton, Cumberland, England
Transcription
Mary Dover Niece - Female 11 1840 - Seaton, Cumberland, England


Death:
DOVER, JOSEPH 38 Order
GRO Reference: 1849 M Quarter in COCKERMOUTH Volume 25 Page 75


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