Find Ancestors

Can anyone please see if they can find Clara Loiusa McMorran on the 1901 Census as she is not with her husband ...


1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
24, Exwick Road, St Thomas the Apostle, St Thomas, Devon, England

Charles W McMorran Head Married Male 43 1858 Retired War Officer (Ord Dept) Ireland Transcription
Cyril McMorran Son Single Male 16 1885 Railway Engine Cleaner India Transcription
Winifred McMorran Daughter Single Female 14 1887 - India

Hi Nicki........Born when and where?

What census is she last located on

His birth says mum is Elizabeth

India, Select Births and Baptisms, 1786-1947 No Image
Text-only collection
Report issue
Name: Cyril Wilfred Mcmorran
Gender: Male
Birth Date: 1 Apr 1884
Baptism Date: 23 Apr 1884
Baptism Age: 0
Baptism Place: Secunderabad, Madras, India
Father: Charles Walter Mcmorran
Mother: Elizabeth
Reference ID: v 65 p 106
FHL Film Number: 521872

On the 1901 census she isnt with her husband. She wouldn't have been on any earlier ones or later ones due to being in India.

She was born in India in Jul 1879.

Nicki

Cyril and Winifred were her step-children. Elizabeth was Charles McMorran's first wife.

Nicki

https://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/genealogy_chat/thread/1369115

Best stick to this thread otherwise everything will be repeated.

????
Charles Walter
Last name McMorran
Marriage year 1882
Marriage date 27 Dec 1882
Spouse's first name Elizabeth
Spouse's last name Wood
Place St Thomas Mount St Thomas
Presidency Madras
Groom's age 25
Bride's age 21
Groom's father's first name Robert
Groom's father's last name McMorran
Bride's father's first name William
Bride's father's last name Wood
Catalogue description Parish register transcripts from the Presidency of Madras, : 1698-1948
Archive reference N-2-63
Folio number 334
Entry number -

Charles Walter
Last name McMorran
Marriage year 1891-95
Marriage Date 1891-1895
Spouse's first name Clara Louisa
Spouse's last name Maile
Presidency -
Archive Reference Z/N/11/8
Piece N/11
Volume 8
Folio 900
Record set British India Office Marriages
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Parish Marriages
Collections from Great Britain, UK None

Was she in fact Constance Elizabeth

VIEW 1911 England Census

View Map
Add alternate information
Report issue
Name: Constance Winifred McMorran
Age in 1911: 24
Estimated birth year: abt 1887
Relation to Head: Servant
Gender: Female
Birth Place: Madras, India
Civil Parish: Exeter
Search Photos: Search for 'Exeter' in the UK City, Town and Village Photos collection
County/Island: Devon
Country: England
Street address: Ibsley, Exeter
Marital Status: Single
Occupation: Housemaid
Registration district: Exeter
Registration District Number: 271
Sub-registration district: Exeter
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Household schedule number: 60
Piece: 12669
Household Members:
Name Age
James Shute 38
Agnes Shute 34
Amy Ross 50
Emma Constance Ross 49
Edith Margaret England 55
Constance Winifred McMorran 24
Hilda Crump 21


All Results SAVE PRINT
Constance Winifred Mcmarran
in the India, Select Births and Baptisms, 1786-1947
India, Select Births and Baptisms, 1786-1947 No Image
Text-only collection
Report issue
Name: Constance Winifred Mcmarran
Gender: Female
Birth Date: 19 Nov 1886
Baptism Date: 20 Nov 1886
Baptism Age: 0
Baptism Place: Fort St. George, Madras, India
Father: Charles Walter Mcmarran
Mother: Elizabeth
Reference ID: v 67 p 275
FHL Film Number: 521874

????

Deaths Jun 1902 (>99%)
McMorran Charles W 43 St. Thomas 5b 37

Elizabeth Wood died in Indai then Charles married Clara in India and moved back to England.

Nicki

deaths
M< MORRAN.—ApriI at 24, Exwick-road, St. Thomas, Exeter, Charles Walter McMorran. late Warrant Officer Ordnance Department, India, aged 43.

https://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/genealogy_chat/thread/1369115

Clara Louisa Maile

India Births and Baptisms, 1786-1947
birth:
15 July 1875
christening:
20 October 1875
Bangalore, Madras, India
residence:
1875
Madras, India
father:
George Maile
mother:
Elizabeth Hammet

Clara Louisa Maile

India Births and Baptisms, 1786-1947
birth:
15 July 1875
christening:
20 October 1875
Bangalore, Madras, India
father:
George Maile
mother:
Elizabeth Hammet

Clara Louisa Maile

England and Wales Marriage Registration Index, 1837-2005
marriage:
1905
Romford, Essex, England
other:
Mary Ann E Anderson, James Oliff, George Samuel Skingley

Thanks - I think i am going to order that marriage certificate of Maile to Skingley just to prove/disprove if it is the same person.

I think that is the way ahead - but surely she would have married as Clara Louisa McMorran?

Nicki

Hi
Nicki

buy charles death cert to see if claras name is on it

they might of seperated and she went back to her maiden name

clara might not of known charles had died ?

Deaths Jun 1902 (>99%)
McMorran Charles W 43 St. Thomas 5b 37

Thank you - I do have that death cert - his son registered the death.

Wish i could find her on the 1901 census.

I will order the marriage cert this evening.

Nicki

I rather think Clara would have known Charles had died as she married the year after in India.

"Nicki Report 13 Nov 2017 11:42
Clara married Andrew O'Gorman on 30 June 1903 in India."

Surely the most obvious thing is that Clara stayed in India?
She had a child, Maureen, probably not her husband's, he was already back here for the 1901 census without her, Clara married again after Charles death.

Or am I missing something that wasn't already given on the other thread? :-S

Clara and Andrew my great-grandparents stayed in India until 1947 - it is the birth of Maureen/Mary Louise that is confounding and confusing.

I have just ordered the Maile/Skingley marriage certificate - maybe i have been following the wrong Clara. An old Aunt said that Clara's maiden name was Maile.

Thanks for your your help.

Nicki

I think the Clara Maile who married Skingley is this one


MAYLE, CLARA LOUISA BROCK Order
GRO Reference: 1880 M Quarter in MARYLEBONE Volume 01A Page 601

1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Hurstway Street, Kensington, London & Middlesex, England

James Maile Head Married Male 54 1837 Bricklayer Middlesex, England
Kate L Maile Wife Married Female 30 1861 - Devon, England ( **Maiden name Brock)
Clara Maile Daughter - Female 11 1880 - Middlesex, England ( Clara Louisa)
James Maile Son - Male 9 1882 - Middlesex, England
Isabel M Maile Daughter - Female 8 1883 - Middlesex, England
Kate L Maile Daughter - Female 6 1885 - Middlesex, England
George Maile Son - Male 2 1889 - Middlesex, England

The birth for Skingley Clara in 1911 is given as 1880 which ties in, rather than 1875 for your Clara in India.