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15 Nov 2017 17:31 |
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8 Nov 2017 17:04 |
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6 Nov 2017 22:18 |
Yes, it's a mystery isn't it.
Time to call it a night I think!! I'll check in again tomorrow.
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6 Nov 2017 21:54 |
Possible Elizabeth was a servant in 1871
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6 Nov 2017 21:17 |
Hi,
Thank you all.
Yes, I think you've pinned down the right family line for the Chapman side.
Just need to find Elizabeth and Charles' Marriage Certificate!! or why they didn't marry.
And, where Elizabeth was between 1861 & 1881
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6 Nov 2017 20:57 |
Charles not at home in 1871
1871 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription Laburnam Terrace, St Leonard Shoreditch, Shoreditch, London & Middlesex, England Robert Chapman Head - Male 51 1820 - Suffolk, Hannah Chapman Wife - Female 50 1821 - Suffolk, England Alice Chapman Daughter - Female 11 1860 - London, Middlesex, England Robert Chapman Son - Male 8 1863 - London, Middlesex, England Jonathan Kedington Boarder - Male 34 1837 - Norfolk, England Francis Noland Boarder - Male 30 1841 - Ireland Mary Noland Boarder - Female 4 1867 - Ireland William Adnett Boarder - Male 30 1841 - Leicestershire, England James Wallage Boarder - Male 51 1820 - Essex, England
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6 Nov 2017 20:56 |
I think this might be Charles 1861
1861 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription 1, Laburnum Lane, Shoreditch, London & Middlesex, England
Robert Chapman Head Married Male 42 1819 Shoe Maker Bungay, Suffolk, England Hannah Chapman Wife Married Female 41 1820 - Suffolk, England Maria Chapman Daughter Married Female 15 1846 Servant Shoreditch, Middlesex, England Charles Chapman Son - Male 8 1853 Scholar Shoreditch, Middlesex, England <<<<<<< Hannah Chapman Daughter - Female 6 1855 Scholar Shoreditch, Middlesex, England Mary Ann Chapman Daughter - Female 3 1858 Scholar Shoreditch, Middlesex, England Alice Chapman Daughter - Female 0 1861 - Shoreditch, Middlesex, England
( note mmn on the children is Whiting on GRO index, however this may be Charles but with an error on mmn Name: Mother's Maiden Surname: Order: CHAPMAN, CHARLES WHITE Order GRO Reference: 1853 M Quarter in THE SHOREDITCH DISTRICT Volume 01C Page 111
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6 Nov 2017 20:46 |
1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription 14, Laburnam Street, Shoreditch, London & Middlesex, England Learn more
Charles Chapman Head Married Male 28 1853 Boot Maker Shoreditch, Middlesex, England Elizabeth Chapman Wife Married Female 23 1858 - Shoreditch, Middlesex, England
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6 Nov 2017 20:34 |
States married 31 years
1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription 104 Chalgrove Road, St John At Hackney, London & Middlesex, England
Elizabeth Chapman Head Widow Female No Occupation 54 1857 London City James Chapman Son Single Male Glass Blower 30 1881 London Kingsland Maud Chapman Daughter Single Female Confectioner 18 1893 London Dalston Edith Chapman Daughter Single Female Feather Sorter 15 1896 London Hackney Lily Chapman Daughter - Female School 11 1900 London Hackney Frank Chapman Son - Male School 9 1902 London Hackney Arthur Chapman Son - Male - 0 1911 London Hackney Frederick Brooks Lodger - Male House Repairer 25 1886 London Homerton
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6 Nov 2017 20:32 |
For ref
1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription 86, Chalgrove Road, Hackney, London & Middlesex, England
Charles Chapman Head Married Male 49 1852 Cordwainer Finsbury, Middlesex, England Elizabeth Chapman Wife Married Female 45 1856 - Shoreditch, Middlesex, England Charles Chapman Son Single Male 18 1883 News Agent Shoreditch, Middlesex, England William Chapman Son Single Male 17 1884 News Agent Hackney, Middlesex, England Robert Chapman Son Single Male 14 1887 - Hackney, Middlesex, England Annie Chapman Daughter Single Female 13 1888 - Hackney, Middlesex, England Maud Chapman Daughter Single Female 9 1892 - Hackney, Middlesex, England Edith Chapman Daughter Single Female 5 1896 - Hackney, Middlesex, England Lily Chapman Daughter Single Female 1 1900 - Hackney, Middlesex, England
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6 Nov 2017 20:27 |
1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription 11, Saxony Cottages, Hackney, London & Middlesex, England Ann Allen Head Widow Female 42 1839 - Surrey, England Emily A Allen Daughter Single Female 20 1861 Boot Machinist Middlesex, England Isabela Allen Daughter Single Female 18 1863 Paste Fitter Middlesex, England Rachel Allen Daughter Single Female 16 1865 Tailoress Hoxton, Middlesex, England Richard Williams Son In Law Single Male 14 1867 Errant Boy Hoxton, Middlesex, England Jesse Allen Son Single Male 0 1881 - Hackney, Middlesex, England T John Tomas Boarder Single Male 22 1859 Laster Hackney, Middlesex, England Mary Talboys Lodger Head Widow Female 57 1824 Dressmaker Shoreditch, Middlesex, England
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6 Nov 2017 20:24 |
ALLEN, RACHEL FIELD Order GRO Reference: 1865 M Quarter in SHOREDITCH Volume 01C Page 120
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6 Nov 2017 20:22 |
1871 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription Saxony Cottages, Hackney, London & Middlesex, England Jessie Allen Head - Male 30 1841 - Middlesex, England Mary Ann Allen Wife - Female 32 1839 - Surrey, England Mary Jane Allen Daughter - Female 11 1860 - Middlesex, England Emily Alice Allen Daughter - Female 9 1862 - Middlesex, England Jamila Allen Daughter - Female 8 1863 - Middlesex, England Rachel Allen Daughter - Female 6 1865 - Middlesex, England Richard Allen Son - Male 3 1868 - Middlesex, England
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6 Nov 2017 20:19 |
This one baptized 5 March 1876:
Edith Emma no birthdate.
But father a railway guard and different address.
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6 Nov 2017 20:17 |
ALLEN, RICHARD WILLIAM FIELD Order GRO Reference: 1867 D Quarter in SHOREDITCH Volume 01C Page 119
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6 Nov 2017 20:14 |
These children of Jesse & Mary Ann were all baptized same day, 29 Aug. 1870 but no birthdates given:
Emily Alice Isabella Isabella (another one?) Rachel Richard William
Address for all is 11 Saxony Cottages, father a shoemaker.
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6 Nov 2017 20:14 |
Sorry, I'm not able to scan this document at the moment. Thank you.
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6 Nov 2017 20:13 |
? looks like Jessie on image?
1861 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription 16, Union Street, St Leonard Shoreditch, Shoreditch, London & Middlesex, England John Allen Head Married Male 21 1840 Shoe Maker St Luke's, Middlesex, England Ann Allen Wife Married Female 22 1839 Shoemaker Wife Elson, Surrey, England Elizabeth Allen Daughter - Female 3 1858 - St Luke's, Middlesex, England Mary Allen Daughter - Female 1 1860 - St Luke's, Middlesex, England Emma Allen Daughter - Female 0 1861 - St Luke's, Middlesex, England
marriages Sep 1857 (>99%) Allen Jesse Shoreditch 1c 463 Field Mary Ann Shoreditch 1c 463
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6 Nov 2017 20:07 |
Just for ref ALLEN, - FIELD Order GRO Reference: 1859 J Quarter in SAINT LUKE, MIDDLESEX Volume 01B Page 581 Order ALLEN, ELIZABETH ANN FIELD Order GRO Reference: 1857 S Quarter in SAINT LUKE MIDDLESEX Volume 01B Page 553 Order ALLEN, EMILY FIELD Order GRO Reference: 1860 D Quarter in SAINT LUKE MIDDLESEX Volume 01B Page 589
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6 Nov 2017 20:07 |
I will try. I need to check if it's saved to my documents! so might be a little while.
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