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Sidami

Sidami Report 2 Oct 2017 17:30

I have Esther Masters married to Charles Hare 1838 in Northampton, I can find her on 41 51 and 61 census she was born c 1819 Brampton Northampton but can not find her on any other census on the census years I found she was not living with Charles her husband? I can't find a death or another marriage for her, I don't know when he was born so I may now have to get the marriage certificate to find his age? Unless anyone can see details on a web site for the marriage. Can anyone help me on this please?

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 2 Oct 2017 17:36

For our reference - is this her in 1861?



Esther Hare
in the 1861 England Census
Name: Esther Hare
Age: 40
Estimated birth year: 1821
Relation: Servant
Gender: Female
Where born: Boughton, Northamptonshire, England
Civil Parish: Northampton St Sepulchre
Ecclesiastical parish: St Sepulchre
County/Island: Northamptonshire
Country: England
Registration district: Northampton
Sub-registration district: St Giles
ED, institution, or vessel: 12
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 87
Piece: 935
Folio: 43
Page Number: 14
Household Members:
Name Age
Richard Ager 36
Esther Hare 40 - married, housekeeper
Dinah Lee 41
John T Wright 13

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 2 Oct 2017 17:38

And 1841 ??



Ester Hare
in the 1841 England Census
Name: Ester Hare
Age: 20
Estimated birth year: abt 1821
Gender: Female
Where born: Northamptonshire, England
Civil Parish: St Sepulchre
Hundred: Northampton
County/Island: Northamptonshire
Country: England
Registration district: Northampton
Sub-registration district: St Giles
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 814
Book: 14
Folio: 8
Page Number: 10
Household Members:
Name Age
George Hare 2
Charles Hare 2 Mo
Ester Hare 20

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 2 Oct 2017 17:39

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1368441?d=desc

(does this relate somewhere to Charles on above?)

Chris :)

Baptism
County Lincolnshire
Place Horncastle
Church name St Mary
Register type Unspecified
Register entry number 2364
Baptism date 09 Mar 1879
Person forename Albert
Person sex M
Person abode 11 Mill Lane
Father forename Charles
Father surname HARE
Father occupation Sweep
Mother forename Elizabeth

https://www.freereg.org.uk/

Chris :)

Birth
HARE, ALBERT (MARSHALL)
GRO Reference: 1878 J Quarter in HORNCASTLE Volume 07A Page 602


Marriages Sep 1867 (>99%)
-----------------------------------------------------------
Hare Charles Horncastle 7a 860
MARSHALL Elizabeth Horncastle 7a 860

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 2 Oct 2017 17:41

1851



Esther Hare
in the 1851 England Census
Name: Esther Hare
Age: 34
Estimated birth year: abt 1817
Relation: Housekeeper
Gender: Female
Where born: Brampton, Northamptonshire, England
Civil Parish: Northampton St Sepulchre
Phillimore Ecclesiastical Parish Maps:
View related Ecclesiastical Parish
Town: Northampton
County/Island: Northamptonshire
Country: England
Street address:
Registration district: Northampton
Sub-registration district: St Giles
ED, institution, or vessel: 8d
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 10
Piece: 1739
Folio: 374
Page Number: 4
Household Members:
Name Age
Richard Ager 26
Esther Hare 34 - house keeper
George Hare 12 - grandson - "her son" on image

Sidami

Sidami Report 2 Oct 2017 17:43

Correct

Sidami

Sidami Report 2 Oct 2017 17:45

Is George her son?

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 2 Oct 2017 17:47

"death looks right for Richard Ager.
Esther was born 1816 Gt Creaton she married Charles Hare at St Sep 23rd Aug 1838.
Esthers father was called Edward that was the Edward Masters grave that you found for me. So don't think that would be the marriage that you found .
I can't find Esthers husband Charles at all on the census's but I can see Esther on 51 and 61 living with Richard, can't find a marriage but she died with the name Ager"

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=143847.135

(above query on google)

Chris :)

Baptism
County Northamptonshire
Place Creaton
Church name St Michael and All Angels
Register type Unspecified
Register entry number 39
Baptism date 6 Oct 1816
Person forename Esther
Person sex F
Person abode Brampton
Father forename Edward
Father surname MASTERS
Father occupation Mason
Mother forename Mary

https://www.freereg.org.uk/

malyon

malyon Report 2 Oct 2017 17:49

Esther Hare
England and Wales Death Registration Index 1837-2007
Name
Esther Hare
Event Type
Death
Registration Quarter
Apr-May-Jun
Registration Year
1878
Registration District
Bourne
County
Lincolnshire
Event Place
Bourne, Lincolnshire, England
Age (available after 1866)
60
Birth Year (Estimated)
1818
Volume
7A
Page
202
Line Number
137

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 2 Oct 2017 17:56

???

Deaths Jun 1863 (>99%)
Ager Esther Northampton 3b 50


Age 46

Sidami

Sidami Report 2 Oct 2017 17:59

I found that Malyon but don't think that was her?

Mary

Mary Report 2 Oct 2017 18:06

Reuben Hare a chimney sweep born 1837 died 1911 in Lincs born in Bridgestock Northampton son of Charles and Esther, he married Mary Lindsey McCall in Lincolnshire 2/7/1860 dad Charles deceased a shoemaker.

Esther and Charles also had according to Ancestry .co.uk George 1839 and Charles 1841-1904

Also stated on a tree Esther 1816 died 28/6/1863

Maryb.

Sidami

Sidami Report 2 Oct 2017 18:06

I can't find the marriage though for her if she married Richard?

Sidami

Sidami Report 2 Oct 2017 18:12

Correct Mary this is what I am trying to found out, does it say who the tree belongs to? I have not been able to find out who the parents are to Reuben?

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 2 Oct 2017 18:22

Lincolnshire Monumental Inscriptions Transcription (Find My Past)

First name(s) Ruben
Last name Hare
Sex Male
Age 71
Birth year 1840
Death year 1911
Death date 13 Feb 1911
Burial ground Boston Road Cemetery
Parish Horncastle
County Lincolnshire England

Chris :)

(and queries Ruben/Reuben on google also)

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/tips_board/thread/700961

Mary

Mary Report 2 Oct 2017 19:01

Well on census record for Richard Ager 1851/61 he is unmarried,but then he married 13/3/1864 as a widow to Bridgett Sewell.
So if Esther died 28/6/1863 then they must if at all married between 1861 and June 1863 has anybody found a record ?

Maryb.

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 2 Oct 2017 19:02

?????

Reuben
Last name Hare
Sex Male
Age 32
Birth year 1841
Residence Louth Road
Marriage year 1873
Marriage date 25 Dec 1873
Marriage place Horncastle
Spouse's first name(s) Rachel
Spouse's last name Martin
Spouse's age 20
Spouse's residence Louth Road
County Lincolnshire
Country England
Father's first name(s) Titus
Father's last name Hare
Spouse's father's first name(s) John
Spouse's father's last name Martin
Page 187
Archive Lincolnshire Archives
Record set Lincolnshire Marriages
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Parish Marriages
Collections from England, Great Britain
© Findmypast

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 2 Oct 2017 19:16

Reuben seems unsure of his place of birth. On some census Northamptonshire


1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Mill Stone Street, Horncastle, Lincolnshire, England

Samuel Gowen Head Married Male 40 1811 Chimney Sweep Mastr 4 Boys Horncastle, Lincolnshire, England
Elizabeth Gowen Wife Married Female 50 1801 - Bristol, Lancashire, England
Mary Gowen Daughter - Female 17 1834 House Servant Horncastle, Lincolnshire, England
Eliza Gowen Daughter - Female 9 1842 - Horncastle, Lincolnshire, England
John Baker Servant Unmarried Male 18 1833 Chimney Sweep Lancashire, England
Edwin Wagstaff Servant - Male 16 1835 Chimney Sweep Nottinghamshire, England
Reuben Hare Servant - Male 16 1835 Chimney Sweep Lancashire, England
Charles Hare Servant - Male 13 1838 Chimney Sweep Lancashire, England

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 2 Oct 2017 19:25

(that reference)

Chris :)

County Northamptonshire
Place Northampton
Church name St Sepulchre
Register type Unspecified
Marriage date 13 Mar 1864
Groom forename Richard
Groom surname AGER
Groom age full age
Groom condition widower
Groom abode Leicester St
Groom occupation grocer
Bride forename Bridget
Bride surname SEWELL
Bride age full age
Bride condition spinster
Bride abode Leicester St
Groom father forename Ezekiel
Groom father surname AGER
Groom father occupation grocer
Bride father forename William
Bride father surname SEWELL
Bride father occupation castrator

https://www.freereg.org.uk/


All Northamptonshire, England, Church of England Burials, 1813-1912 (Ancestry)

Esther Ayres
abt 1817 28 Jun 1863 Northampton, St Sepulchre
(Abode, Leicester Street)

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 2 Oct 2017 19:38

(wonders if below has got involved with the confusion somehow, lol)

Chris :)

1841 (Find My Past)
Thrapston Union Workhouse, Thrapston, Thrapston Union, Northamptonshire
Eyers Reuben (4) (Illegitimate)
Eyers Charles (2) (same)
Eyers Lucy (20) Lace Maker
(says all Born in County)


(if her)

England, Births & Baptisms 1538-1975 Transcription (Find My Past)

First name(s) Lucy
Last name Eayers
Gender Female
Baptism year 1816
Baptism date 1816
Place Brigstock
County Northamptonshire
Father's first name(s) Barton
Father's last name Eayers
Mother's first name(s) Elizabeth