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Mary. That's the one I found. Incredible travelling around from Ann....!!

(apologies folks that Death I found 1861, couldn't see it FreeBMD, got confused, lol)

Chris :)

William liptrott died 1838 age 33 in Southwark workhouse buried 12/8/1838.
was this the one who married Ann??

Maryb.

I'm wondering if I should put this to bed for the moment.

Thank you to all who have helped and made such an effort in doing so.

I do hope this is the correct pair but they seem rather shy!!!

Phil

Thank you :-D

John was living Haslingden in 1861 (not Hull):

1861 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Sheep Green, Haslingden, Lancashire, England

John Barrow Head Married Male 44 1817 Rope Maker Bolton, Lancashire, England
Ann Barrow Wife Married Female 52 1809 - Scotland

(I know nuffink, lol, but was looking for below?)

Chris :)

Yorkshire Death indexes for the years: 1861

BARON John 47 East Sculcoates Hull EAS/14/103

http://www.yorkshirebmd.org.uk/index.php

I couldn't see it listed on the GRO- now found it under Barron. However, it is not the correct death- this John was only age 6:

BARRON, JOHN age: 6
GRO Reference: 1861 D Quarter in HULL Volume 09D Page 151
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How about 12/1861 Hull 9d, 151?

I did see that marriage, and baptism of a possible child in 1836- annoyingly just before 1837 registration.

Name: William Alexander Liptrott
Gender: Male
Record Type: Baptism
Baptism Date: 12 Jun 1836
Baptism Place: Newington St Mary, Southwark, England
Father: William Liptrott
Mother: Ann Liptrott
Register Type: Parish Registers
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I'm afraid I don't see anything definite for Ann in 1841 either.

I'm not seeing a likely death for John in 1861?

I see - I have found a marriage for Anne and William Liptrott in 1834 in St Mary, Newington, Surrey and a possible death for him in 1838 in Bermondsey?

Cannot see Anne in 1841 or 1871, 1881 for that matter. Death for a John Barrow in early 1861.

Thank you very much AustinQ

I did mention the marriage was after the census- although we can't be a 100% it is the correct marriage, it certainly seems likely given the information.

It was not unheard of for couples to live together as married. Ann was a widow when she married- perhaps they had to wait for her husband to die first?

I'm a bit confused. How are John and Ann marked in the 1851 census (March 30) as married when they didn't marry until Nov 1851?

Crikey.....I'm pretty sure Joseph (the father) was a weaver.....!!!

I did see this earlier so thank you for this.

Yeh- I don't think that family is related. I think the image does say Baron. (the handwriting makes the n look like a w)

Wonder if below related to that Edward?...

Chris :)

http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/D35771?descriptiontype=Full&ref=PROB+11/2260/416

(should also be on below, Ancestry)

England & Wales, Prerogative Court of Canterbury Wills, 1384-1858


(Description: Will of Edward Baron, Officer of Customs at the Port of Hull of Kingston upon Hull , Yorkshire
Date: 27 November 1857)


Edits (quickly adds below, as must get going here!, probably more items)

14 November 1857 - Hull Advertiser and Exchange Gazette - Hull, East

Hull. TO BE SOLD BY PRIVATE CONTRACT. the substantially built and convenient DWELLING* HOUSE (lately occupied by the owner, Edward Baron, Esq., deceased}, being No. 8. the west side Spencer Street ...”

This family would probably relate to the address for John on his marriage?

Name on image is clearly 'Barrow' not 'Baron'.............


1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
8, Spencer Street, Holy Trinity, Hull, Yorkshire & Yorkshire (East Riding), England

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Household Members
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Edward Baron Head Widower Male 76 1775 Retired Officer Of Customs Patrington, Yorkshire, England
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Anna Maria Baron Daughter Unmarried Female 37 1814 - -
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Juno Baron Sister Unmarried Female 79 1772 - Patrington, Yorkshire, England
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Fanny Jane Treffry Grand Daughter Unmarried Female 21 1830 - -
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Mary Watson Visitor Unmarried Female 23 1828 Dress Maker Yorkshire, England
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Rebecca Watson Servant Unmarried Female 39 1812 House Servant Yorkshire, England
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Ann Powell Servant Unmarried Female 17 1834 House Servant -

Dea x

Looking slightly better??

This is the 1851 for a Mary McFarlane (same name as one of the witnesses). She was born in LEITH, Scotland (same place as 'our' Ann was born!! - Maybe they wetre sisters?


1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
58, Prospect Street, Sculcoates, Yorkshire & Yorkshire (East Riding), England

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Household Members
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Thomas Ward Gleadon Head Unmarried Male 54 1797 Retired Merchant Hull, Yorkshire, England
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Maria Gleadon Sister Unmarried Female 47 1804 - Hull, Yorkshire, England
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Mary MacFarlane Servant Unmarried Female 34 1817 House Serv Scotland (LEITH).

Dea x

Oooo - that looks good Austin. I seem to have missed that post by Malyon..

I will take a further look.

Dea x

Malyon posted this marriage earlier- this gives a little more detail- note that John is a rope maker- matching the 1851 census, and Ann is a widow. The marriage is a little after the 1851 census was taken, but might be worth considering.

name(s) John Barrow
Age Full
Occupation Ropemaker
Marital status Bachelor
Residence Spencers Street
Marriage year 1851
Marriage date 23 Nov 1851
Marriage place Hull, Holy Trinity
Spouse's name(s) Ann Liptrott (or Lipatrott)
Spouse's age Full
Spouse's residence Brook Street
Spouse's marital status Widow
Father's name(s) Joseph Barrow (weaver)
Spouse's father's name(s) Alexander McFarlane (tailor)

Witness 1 Thos Hewson (image looks more like Hollison)
Witness 2 Mary McFarlane
County Yorkshire (East Riding)

Hi Dea. I have searched (to the best of my ability) and have come back with nothing....