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Name: Mother's Maiden Surname:
ELLIOTT, CHARLES WILLIAM LITTLEWOOD Order
GRO Reference: 1887 S Quarter in STOCKTON Volume 10A Page 88

Name: Age at Death (in years):
ELLIOTT, CHARLES WILLIAM 7 Order
GRO Reference: 1888 J Quarter in STOCKTON Volume 10A Page 30

is that not a different lucy , i am confused

1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
25 Station Street Brighton, Brighton, Sussex, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Occupation Age Birth year Birth place
William Elliott Head Married Male General Labourer 56 1855 Lambeth London
Lucey Elliott Wife Married Female - 49 1862 County Durham
Eliza Jane Elliott Daughter - Female - 14 1897 Sussex Brighton

Married 28 years (so a bit out, but it's an odd 8). 3 children born, 2 living 1 has died

England & Wales marriages 1837-2005 Transcription

First name(s) GRACE
Last name PATCHETT
Marriage quarter 1
Marriage year 1903
Registration month -
MarriageFinder™ GRACE PATCHETT married one of these people
Harry James Hall, Alfred Tyler
District Brighton
District number -
County Sussex
Country England
Volume 2B
Page 292

1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
27 Whitecross Street Brighton, Brighton, Sussex, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Occupation Age Birth year Birth place
Harry J Hall Head Married Male Stableman 36 1875 Brighton Sussex
Grace Hall Wife Married Female - 30 1881 Stockton on Tees
Charles James Hall Son - Male School 6 1905 Brighton Sussex
Violet Hall Daughter - Female School 5 1906 Brighton Sussex
Grace Hall Daughter - Female - 2 1909 Brighton Sussex
Harry Wilkins Boarder Single Male Cab Diner 32 1879 Brighton Sussex

MArried 8 years 3 born and living

so have i got this right
Lucy remarried in 1886 in her maiden name to william elliott ???

Chrisho - yes brother George on 1881 census

Lucy Littlewood
mentioned in the record of William Elliott and Lucy Littlewood
Name William Elliott
Birth Date 1855
Age 31
Spouse's Name Lucy Littlewood
Spouse's Birth Date 1862
Spouse's Age 24
Event Date 13 Dec 1886
Event Place St. John The Baptist, Stockton-On-Tees, Durham, England
Father's Name William Elliott
Spouse's Father's Name Joseph Littlewood
Marital Status Widowed
Spouse's Marital Status Single

Re brother George William -

I'm confused.
Chris asked if that was brother George on 1881 census "same as 1871". Which 1881 census? Which 1871? Did you mean the 1871 which GG had posted immediately before Chris's question?

If so, can that be the same person?
The one with parents George & Isabella is William George, born Durham 1866.

He can't be George William born Huddersfield 1854

William George 1866 Durham is still with his parents in 1881:


William George Patchett
in the 1881 England Census
Name: William George Patchett
Age: 14
Estimated birth year: abt 1867
Relationship to Head: Son
Father: George Patchett
Mother: Isabella Patchett
Gender: Male
Where born: Pierce Bridge, Durham, England
Civil Parish: Stockton on Tees
County/Island: Durham
Country: England
Street address: 3 Adams Ter
Occupation: Scoria Brickmaker
Registration district: Stockton
ED, institution, or vessel: 53
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 4900
Folio: 160
Page Number: 11
Household Members:
Name Age
George Patchett 55
Isabella Patchett 51
Catherine Patchett 23
Francis Patchett 17
William George Patchett 14
Isabella Patchett 6
Ellen Patchett 1

He joins the Army:

William Patchett
in the UK, Royal Hospital Chelsea Pensioner Soldier Service Records, 1760-1920
Name: William Patchett
Age: 22
Birth Date: abt 1867
Birth Place: Pearce Bridge Durham
Service Start Year: 1889
Regiment: Royal Artillery
Attestation Paper: Yes

In 1861 census he's listed as born 1855 Yorkshire:

William George Patchett
in the 1861 England Census
Name: William George Patchett
Age: 6
Estimated birth year: 1855
Relation: Son
Father's name: George Patchett
Mother's name: Isabella Patchett
Gender: Male
Where born: Almforth, Yorkshire, England
Civil Parish: Old Shildon
Ecclesiastical parish: Old Shildon
County/Island: Durham
Country: England
Registration district: Auckland
Sub-registration district: Bishop Auckland
ED, institution, or vessel: 16
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 76
Piece: 3708
Folio: 32
Page Number: 15
Household Members:
Name Age
George Patchett 34
Isabella Patchett 31
John Patchett 9
William George Patchett 6
Cathrine Patchett 3
Thomas Henry Patchett 1


But by 1871 he's born 1866 Durham ???

I can't see a record of any such birth in Co Durham 1865-68, so I suppose he must be the same person..

If we accept 1866 Pierce Bridge, Durham, then here he is in 1911:


William Patchett
in the 1911 England Census
Name: William Patchett
Age in 1911: 45
Estimated birth year: abt 1866
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Piecobridge, Durham, England
Civil Parish: Eston
County/Island: Yorkshire-North Riding
Country: England
Street address: 11 Wellington Street South Bank
Marital Status: Married
Occupation: Stevedore
Registration district: Middlesbrough
Registration District Number: 535
Sub-registration district: Ormesby
ED, institution, or vessel: 11
Piece: 29214
Household Members:
Name Age
William Patchett 45
Sarah Ann Patchett 45
Annie Patchett 20
Bell Patchett 17
William Patchett 15
George Patchett 13
Frank Patchett 10
Kate Patchett 8
Harry Patchett 1/12
Walter Patchett 5


and in 1901:

William Patchett
in the 1901 England Census
Name: William Patchett
Age: 33
Estimated birth year: abt 1868
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Male
Spouse: S A Patchett
Birth Place: Darlington, Durham, England
Civil Parish: Normanby
Ecclesiastical parish: South Bank St John
Town: South Bank
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England
Street address:
Occupation:
Registration district: Middlesbrough
Sub-registration district: Ormesby
ED, institution, or vessel: 15
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 4586
Folio: 75
Page Number: 29
Household schedule number: 171
Household Members:
Name Age
William Patchett 33 - Blast furnace man
S A Patchett 34
Annie Patchett 9
Isabell Patchett 7
William Patchett 5
George Patchett 3
Frank Patchett 3/12

And 1891:



William Patchett
in the 1891 England Census
Name: William Patchett
Gender: Male
Age: 24
Relationship: Son-in-law
Birth Year: 1867
Spouse: Sarah Ann Patchett
Birth Place: Darlington, Durham, England
Civil Parish: Normanby
Ecclesiastical parish: Eston
Residence Place: South Bank, Normanby, Yorkshire, England
Registration district: Middlesbrough
Sub registration district: Ormesby
ED, Institution or Vessel: 14
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 4017
Folio: 62
Household Members:
Name Age
John Hoole 52
Ann Hoole 54
Sarah Ann Patchett 23
William Patchett 24

Thomas Henry's birthplace shifts around too.

1861 says Witton Park, Durham.
1871 says Holmfirth, Yorkshire.
1881, back to Whitton/Witton Park.


Ancestry suggests this is him in 1891 - if so, he's remarried and changed his occupation to Ships Check Clerk:



Thomas Patchett
in the 1891 England Census
Name: Thomas Patchett
Gender: Male
Age: 31
Relationship: Son-in-law
Birth Year: 1860
Birth Place: Durham, England
Civil Parish: Middlesborough
Ecclesiastical parish: St John
Residence Place: Middlesborough, Middlesborough, Yorkshire, England
Registration district: Middlesbrough
Sub registration district: Middlesbrough
ED, Institution or Vessel: 26
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 4008
Folio: 10
Household Members:
Name Age
Ann Alder 54
Thomas Wilson 31
Elizabeth Patchett 29
Henry Alder 20
Arthur Wilson 7
Thomas Patchett 31


Marriages Mar 1891 (>99%)
Patchett Thomas Middlesbro' 9d 802
Wilson Elizabeth Jane Middlesbro' 9d 802

And in 1901 he's back to being born in Holmfirth:


Thomas Patchett
in the 1901 England Census
Name: Thomas Patchett
Age: 41
Estimated birth year: abt 1860
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Male
Spouse: Elizabeth Patchett
Birth Place: Holmefirth, Yorkshire, England
Civil Parish: Middlesbrough
Ecclesiastical parish: St John
Town: Middlesborough
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England
Street address:
Registration district: Middlesbrough
Sub-registration district: Middlesbrough
ED, institution, or vessel: 20
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 4576
Folio: 78
Page Number: 7
Household schedule number: 37
Household Members:
Name Age
Thomas Patchett 41
Elizabeth Patchett 39 - born Stockton
Arthur Patchett 17
Maude Patchett 9
Tom Patchett 7
Edith Patchett 6


All the children born Middlesborough.


PATCHETT, MAUD WILSON
GRO Reference: 1891 J Quarter in MIDDLESBROUGH Volume 09D Page 597

PATCHETT, THOMAS WILSON
GRO Reference: 1893 S Quarter in MIDDLESBROUGH Volume 09D Page 538

PATCHETT, EDITH WILSON
GRO Reference: 1895 M Quarter in MIDDLESBROUGH Volume 09D Page 595


Arthur must be Elizabeth's child before her marriage to Thomas - and he's with her and Thomas in 1891.

This birth, perhaps:

WILSON, ARTHUR - (no mms)
GRO Reference: 1884 J Quarter in MIDDLESBROUGH Volume 09D Page 561

Thomas Patchett junior born 1893 died 1918 in France
Burial states his parents were Elizabeth Jane and the late Thomas Patchett but I can't find a death for him
Address for the couple were 27.Myrtle Street and 27,laycock Street Middlesborough.
They aren't at either address in 1911.

On Ancestry there are some papers which are closed relating to Thomas Patchett born Holmfirth 1860 joined the 21st brigade in 1881 Reg no 1899

Maryb.

I can't see any of them in 1911.


From CWGC (they've changed the look and layout of their website - very confusing!)

Private PATCHETT, THOMAS
Service Number 38589
Died 09/03/1918
Aged 25
2nd Bn.
Royal Scots

Son of Mrs. E. J. Patchett, of 27, Myrtle St., Middlesbrough, and the late Thomas Patchett.

Buried at LONDON CEMETERY, NEUVILLE-VITASSE

Location: Pas de Calais, France
Cemetery/memorial reference: Wancourt Rd. Cem. No. 2 Mem., Panel 1.

thanks so much, will have to digest this properly in the morning but its looking really good

maddie
:-)

(apologies there if I confused things AG, yes that was the 1881 you posted, next door to Thomas on image)

Chris :)

UK, Army Registers of Soldiers' Effects, 1901-1929 (Ancestry)

(for Thomas 1918 above, To Whom Authorised, Mo. Elizabeth J.)


Edits

(if Mary means below, Find My Past)

British Army Service Records Holmforth, Yorkshire, England

Patchett Thomas 1860 — 1881 Holmforth Yorkshire, England
Year 1881
Attestation date 16 May 1881
Attestation age years 21
Attestation age months 2
Attestation service number 1899
Attestation corps 21st Brigade
Document type Attestation

(Father, George, Stockton on Tees, Durham. Mother Isabella)

Birth
PATCHETT, THOMAS HENRY (HILTON)
GRO Reference: 1860 M Quarter in AUCKLAND UNION Volume 10A Page 159

Birth
PATCHETT, WILLIAM GEORGE (HILTON)
GRO Reference: 1854 J Quarter in HUDDERSFIELD UNION Volume 09A Page 275

Birth
PATCHETT, CATHARINE (HILTON)
GRO Reference: 1857 S Quarter in HUDDERSFIELD Volume 09A Page 246

Birth
PATCHETT, JOHN (HILTON)
GRO Reference: 1851 D Quarter in MANCHESTER Volume 20 Page 615


Marriages Sep 1850 (>99%)
-----------------------------------------------------
Hilton Isabella Manchester 20 718
Patchett George Manchester 20 718


(another newspaper article about Death of George 1888, states he went to Stockton on a visit to his daughter, Mrs. Bennett, Rawson street)

(presume below)

Marriages Sep 1887 (>99%)
----------------------------------------------------------
BENNETT Samuel Middlesbro' 9d 710
PATCHETT Frances Middlesbro' 9d 710


1891 (Find My Past)
Samuel Bennett Head Married Male 28 1863 General Labourer Scotland
Frances Bennett Wife Married Female 27 1864 - Durham, England
Jesse Bennett Daughter Single Female 1 1890 - Durham, England
Isabella Patchet Mother In Law Widow Female 61 1830 - Lancashire, England
Isabella Patchet Single Female 16 1875 - Yorkshire, England
Lawson, Stockton on Tees, Stockton, Durham


Deaths Mar 1896 (>99%)
----------------------------------------------------
Patchett Isabella 66 Stockton 10a 28

Death of Thomas Henry's wife:

Deaths Mar 1943 (>99%)
PATCHETT Elizabeth 80 Middlesbro' 9d 638

Probable death of William George's son Frank:

Frank Patchett
in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1916-2007
Name: Frank Patchett
Death Age: 57
Birth Date: abt 1899
Registration Date: Jun 1956
Registration district: Cleveland
Inferred County: Yorkshire North Riding
Volume: 1b
Page: 570


Probable death of William George's daughter Isabella / Bell:

Deaths Dec 1911 (>99%)
PATCHETT Isabella 18 Middlesbro 9d 656