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Jean

Jean Report 5 Sep 2017 10:41

Hello could any one of you kind people .help in my search .many thanks to you .in advance . my grand father william james breeze born 1894 in jarrow south sheilds .he died 1963 ...what i know of him .is that he was in the army .no 4 platoon 1st the south staffidshire reg .winners of the sissors cup maymo 1924 ...dont know when he joined .as a late relative gave me the name of reg ...he married 1929 .he had 4 living children .his wife d 25th dec 1938..i would like to know where he was in 1939 .please . thank you .

AustinQ

AustinQ Report 5 Sep 2017 10:49

Possible for him in 1939:

Breeze Household (2 People) 22 Mozart Street , West Hartlepool C.B., Durham, England

William Breeze 30 Mar 1894 Male Shipyard Driller Widowed
Sorry, this record is officially closed.

Jean

Jean Report 5 Sep 2017 10:54

Thank you austinq for the info . i was qurious as to if the 4 children where still with him ...

AustinQ

AustinQ Report 5 Sep 2017 11:04

If that William is correct then there is only one other person living with him at the address. They are a closed record.

I can't see the children on the register- but if they are still living, or died after 1991 then they might all be closed records.

Jean

Jean Report 5 Sep 2017 11:11

Hi ...i was told that the children had all been seperated .but didnt know how soon after there mother died .my late mother passed away in 1990 ...she had just turned 5 .when her mother died ...is there any where i can find out how long william was in army or when he joined ..thank you for your reply .

AustinQ

AustinQ Report 5 Sep 2017 11:15

Oh, right, OK- I was expecting to see them in Durham. This is your mother?

1939
Suckling Household (5 People) Church Street , Whitby R.D., Yorkshire (North Riding), England

Andrew Suckling 02 Mar 1902 Male Iron & Steelworks Clerk Married
Margaret W Suckling 27 Jan 1907 Female Unpaid House Domestic Duties Married
Dennis Suckling 10 Dec 1928 Male At School Single
Sorry, this record is officially closed. Check if you can open a closed record.
Mary Paylor (Breeze) 29 Nov 1933 Female At School Single

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 5 Sep 2017 11:18

The other children may well be closed records in the households of family members. I would think it may be worth trying to locate William and Mary's siblings and / or their parents in 1939.

AustinQ

AustinQ Report 5 Sep 2017 11:20

They're not with Mary's parents

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 5 Sep 2017 11:21

William probably enlisted or was called up during WW1 but no records showing for him on FMP so perhaps his records are among the ones that haven't survived.

Jean

Jean Report 5 Sep 2017 11:21

yes thank you mary breeze was my mother .her sisters norah .aged i think 9 annie aged 3 .and brother john known as georgie was 7 at the time of there mothers death . thank you .you have been helpful ..

AustinQ

AustinQ Report 5 Sep 2017 11:24

Not seeing a birth for Norah under Breeze. Was she born before they married?

There is a Norah with Mary's parents in 1939:

Mccann Household (4 People) 25 Uppingham Street , West Hartlepool C.B., Durham, England

Bridget McCann ? ? 1876 Female Market Gardener Paid Work Married
Michael McCann 28 Dec 1863 Male Retired Labourer Married
Dan McCann 17 Dec 1907 Male Farm Labourer Daedal Single
Nora McCann 08 Jul 1928 Female At School Single
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Norah's birth
First name(s) NORAH
Last name MCCANN
Birth year 1928
Birth quarter 3
Mother's last name McCann
District Hartlepool
County Durham
Volume 10A Page 181

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 5 Sep 2017 11:24

Marriages Sep 1927 (>99%)
Suckling Andrew Verrill Whitby 9d 1063
VERRILL Margaret W SUCKLING Whitby 9d 1063

Jean

Jean Report 5 Sep 2017 11:24

Thank you rootgatherer .for looking for williams record .

AustinQ

AustinQ Report 5 Sep 2017 11:26

There was also another child that died:

Births Dec 1930
BREEZE Ivy M McCann Hartlepool 10a 233

Deaths Mar 1931
Breeze Ivy M 0 Hartlepool 10a 198

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 5 Sep 2017 11:31

Births Sep 1928 (>99%)
McCann Norah McCann Hartlepool 10a 181

Jean

Jean Report 5 Sep 2017 11:33

Yes .austinq norah was in her mothers maiden name ..there was a daughter ivy .she died about 1930 aged i think 3 months and there mother also called mary .died not sure if she was in childbirth .as far as we know the baby died as well ..i have perchased her death cert it says cause of death .A1 PLECENTIA PRAEVIE.

AustinQ

AustinQ Report 5 Sep 2017 11:36

There are quite a few notices in the papers re the Mccann family:

Hartlepool Northern Daily Mail - Tuesday 27 December 1938

DEATHS
BREEZE On December 25th (suddenly) Mary, (nee McCann) dearly beloved wife of William Breeze. Cortege to leave her Mother's residence, 25 Uppingham Street, Thursday 2 o'clock. Friends and neighbours kindly invited- R.I.P

Jean

Jean Report 5 Sep 2017 11:38

Thank you again .for the notice of mary mc cann..

AustinQ

AustinQ Report 5 Sep 2017 11:42

I'm not seeing John or Annie on the 1939 register- so they are likely to be closed records

greyghost

greyghost Report 5 Sep 2017 11:44

I wonder if John stayed with his Father and it was the girls who were separated so he would show as the closed record.

Surname First name(s) Mother District Vol Page
Births Mar 1932 (>99%)
Breeze John W McCann Hartlepool 10a 250

There is a possible marriage for him Q2 1954 West Hartlepool (on free bmd) with 5 children to the marriage also showing on free bmd all b West Hartlepool.

and this possible death - dob would fit a Q1 1934 birth registration
England & Wales deaths 1837-2007 Transcription

First name(s) JOHN WILLIAM
Last name BREEZE
Gender Male
Birth day 1
Birth month 12
Birth year 1931
Age -
Death quarter 4
Death year 1993
District North Cleveland
District number 3511A
Register number J42
Entry number 051
Date of registration mm/yy 1093
County Durham
Country