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Jennifer
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30 Aug 2017 22:27 |
Safc. Sorry the name Morris didn't click at first, but seeing dad as Edwin that Jessie married Joseph Heaton, and I ordered the certificate, so its not my Jessie. In looking for Jessie Morris Kensington you have shown me a Jessie Thompson, a Jessie Miller and a Jessie Woodley, all born in 1875 Kensington. All those surnames were her sisters married names, maybe one is Jesse Gearing? These are worth looking into.
Safc. Yes William Whinrey is Jessie's Brother. the dad John Thomas Gearing died in 1870.
Mary. Yes that 1871 shows Ann as a widow.
Emily married Thomas Woodley story on Ancestry looking for Mary both Emily and Thomas died in the war in 1844.
Ann T (T came from other trees, some put Theresa) This T helps me know my Ann by putting T, because mum Ann was married to John Thomas Gearing, but Ann T dad on the wedding reads William Gearing not John. There is a Miller tree, where Ann T married William Miller. They have a child that married in Canada and when marrying put her mums names as Thackerrey. I think Thackerrye was an error due to the 1901 census above where her gran was living near them all. Also William Miller signed Jessie wedding as a witness to James Measures
Mary Adelaide married Thomas Dickeson . Mary is the story where they're looking for her birth like with Jessie. There mum Ann as Thackerrey died giving Mary's, address, she worked most of her later life in the workwouse. I can't find any younger life.
Maria died aged abt 2.
Jessies dad reads Henry.
See this tree is a hard on to crack :-)
On all Jessie's Measures Children she put she was a Gearing as maiden name. Also her first child was named Jessie, so it make me think she was a Jessie?.
Thank you for all looking.
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30 Aug 2017 22:09 |
Jennifer -
to comment on the posts, just do what you did when you asked about it!
Add your comment in the white box at the bottom of this page, then click "Submit".
If you want to contact one of the posters privately, click on their name at the top of their post and send a message - but then only that one person will see your message, so it's best to post on here via the white box, so everyone can see your comments, and maybe get some further clues from what you say.
Unless you have something private to say, of course!
EDIT:
Have just found your message to me, confirming that Jessie mms Morris isn't your Jessie.
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30 Aug 2017 21:33 |
1871 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription Smarts Buildings, St Giles, London, England
Learn more Print transcription View image Household Members First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place Anne Gearing Mother - Female 34 1837 - Middlesex, England Transcription Emily Jane Gearing Daughter - Female 8 1863 - Surrey, England Transcription Ann T Gearing Daughter - Female 5 1866 - Middlesex, England Transcription Mary A Gearing Daughter - Female 2 1869 - Middlesex, England Transcription Maria C Gearing Daughter - Female 0 1871 - Middlesex, England
ann is a widow
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Jennifer
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30 Aug 2017 21:32 |
Hi i'm new to this, where do I click to comment on all your comments on this post?
Thank you xx
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30 Aug 2017 20:55 |
England, Births & Baptisms 1538-1975 Transcription Print transcription First name(s) William Whinrey Last name Gearing Gender Male Birth year 1858 Birth place - Baptism year 1858 Baptism date 04 Apr 1858 Place Holborn County London Country England Father's first name(s) John Thomas Father's last name Gearing Mother's first name(s) Ann Mother's last name - Record set England Births & Baptisms 1538-1975 Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records Subcategory Births & baptisms Collections from England, Great Britain
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30 Aug 2017 20:30 |
I think Jessie and Marian (mms Morris), whose births safc posted, are the children of this couple:
Marriages Mar 1860 (>99%) Gearing Edwin Marylebone 1a 665 Morris Sarah Marylebone 1a 665
Marian Gearing in the London, England, Church of England Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906 Name: Marian Gearing Record Type: Baptism Baptism Date: 31 Jan 1868 Father's name: Edwin Gearing Mother's name: Sarah Gearing Parish or Poor Law Union: Shepherds Bush St Stephen Borough: Hammersmith and Fulham Register Type: Parish Registers
Marian Gearing in the 1871 England Census Name: Marian Gearing Age: 6 Estimated birth year: abt 1865 Relation: Daughter Father's name: Edwin Gearing Mother's name: Sarah Gearing Gender: Female Where born: London, Middlesex, England Civil Parish: Hammersmith Ecclesiastical parish: St Clement County/Island: London Country: England Registration district: Kensington Sub-registration district: St Paul Hammersmith ED, institution, or vessel: 27 Piece: 66 Folio: 10 Page Number: 15 Household Members: Name Age Edwin Gearing 39 Sarah Gearing 35 Elizabeth Gearing 10 Alice Gearing 8 Marian Gearing 6 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< William Gearing 5 Clara Maud Gearing 3 Albert Gearing 1 Month
Edwin Gearing in the 1881 England Census Name: Edwin Gearing Age: 49 Estimated birth year: abt 1832 Relationship to Head: Head Spouse: Sarah Gearing Gender: Male Where born: Hampshire, England Civil Parish: Kensington County/Island: London Country: England Street address: 126 Bramley Rd Marital Status: Married Occupation: Grocer Registration district: Kensington Sub registration district: Kensington Town ED, institution, or vessel: 33c Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 34 Folio: 18 Page Number: 34 Household Members: Name Age Edwin Gearing 49 Sarah Gearing 44 Alice Gearing 19 William Gearing 15 Alicia Gearing 13 Frank Gearing 10 Jessie Gearing 6 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< Kate Gearing 3
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30 Aug 2017 19:42 |
Mary Ann Gearing mum nee Witton born March QTR 1874 Lambeth V01d P409 could this be Jessie her sister Emily Jane also born Lambeth.
1871 Finsbury St Giles Page 49 of 61 Anne Gearing widow a mangler? 1837 Emily J 8 Ann 5 Mary A 2 Maria C 9months.
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30 Aug 2017 19:01 |
is this william
GEARING, WILLIAM WHINREY WITTON Order GRO Reference: 1858 J Quarter in ST GILES & ST GEORGE Volume 01B
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30 Aug 2017 19:00 |
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GEARING, MARIAN MORRIS Order GRO Reference: 1864 J Quarter in KENSINGTON Volume 01A Page 59
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Jennifer
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30 Aug 2017 18:57 |
Thank you, its worth a try. Can you see if you can find her mum and dad, and Mary's baptism ?
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30 Aug 2017 18:44 |
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GEARING, JESSIE MORRIS Order GRO Reference: 1875 J Quarter in KENSINGTON Volume 01A Page 146
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Jennifer
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30 Aug 2017 18:40 |
Can anyone solve my tree? Jessie has a brother William Whinrey B 1858 (named after his G/dad), sister Frances Maria b 1859, Elizabeth Ann B 1861, Emily Jane B. 1863, Catherine B 1865, Ann B 1866, Mary Adelaide B 1865, Maria Charlotte B 1870.
On Ancestry message board there was a post looking for Mary Gearing. (lady that posted it has passed away) It reads this. SHE'S BEEN FOUND!. After a lot of searching we've managed to find Mary Adelaide's baptism (though still no trace in the GRO index, so no birth cert). Almost everything I was told by mother an grandmother was wrong, but I think Mary Adelaide herself believed it to be true. Firstly her birth date was 26 Jun 1868 (not 26 july 1871 which was the date she herself used). her father was John Gearing (he died Jan 1870) he was a carpenter not a painter (but his father was a printer - I can see some miscopying here). also she was born in St Giles holborn, not Lambeth, her parents did live in Lambeth for a time and some of her siblings were born there. But she WAS a cigar maker (in fact that's how we found her - mum had remarried, on the 1891 census under stepdad's name). I've certainly made the most of my Ancestry with this search, which involved downloading page of the census, until I found a likely looking candidate, and then checking BMD records for feasibility. Then I had to go to London to look at church records. All this however has taken me right back to Mary Adelaide's grandparents, and way before civil registration, so it was effort well worth making.
If I can find Mary it might help me find Jessie Birth. My tree is a little confusing.
I think Jessie Gearing mum was known (not sure if that's her birth name) as Ann/Annie, she couldn't write, so all the above children link via family members signing the weddings. Jessie Mum, Ann I think was Witton?, her dad was a Tailor called William?. Ann as Witton married Charles Ashley, he died soon after, so she married John Thomas Gearing, he died in 1870, so won't be Jessie dad like with the others. Mum Ann then married James Thackerrey. Ann Died at Daughter Mary (the post above about Mary also having no birth, but she found a baptism ) Mary was married to surname Dickeson.
When Jessie Married James Measures her dad read Henry Gearing a cabinet maker. Her mum was married to John and he died before Jessie was born.
Also Jessie mum Ann might have a sister Mary b 1817 married Thompson and sister Sarah 1827 married Robert Pardy/Purdy. The name Purdy signs wedding certificate.
Look up a Census 1901 James Measures 28 Jessie Measures 25 Jessie Measures 4 Mabel Measures 4 Weeks Annie Thackerey 25
the name above this reads Ann Miller (I think this is Jessie sister) William Miller is a witness on Jessie wedding.
Any help on finding Jessie baptism would be great, because I can't find anything. With all this info I can't find, Jessie, or where her mum and dad came from.
There is a Jessie born the same year, she married and her dad was Edwin, this isn't my Jessie, as my Jessie married James Measures.
Thank you x
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