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11 May 2020 17:49 |
Re Ann's possible sister Sarah:
Sarah Witton in the London, England, Church of England Marriages and Banns, 1754-1932 Name:Sarah Witton Gender:Female Record Type:Marriage Marriage Date:12 Jan 1846 Marriage Place:St John the Evangelist, Lambeth, Lambeth, England Father:Charles William Witton (tailor) Spouse:Robert Pardy (bricklayer) Register Type:Parish Register
??? Sarah Witten in the 1841 England Census Name:Sarah Witten Age:14 Estimated birth year:abt 1827 Gender:Female Where born:Middlesex, England Civil Parish:St Botolph Aldersgate Hundred:London Without the Walls County/Island:Middlesex Country:England Street address: Registration district:East London Sub-registration district:Cripplegate Piece:724 Book:9 Folio:13 Page Number:20 Household Members: Name Age Charles Bailey 30 Mary Bailey 25 Emma Bailey 5 Charles Bailey 3 Sarah Witten 14
Robert and Sarah in 1851:
Sarah Purdy in the 1851 England Census Name: Sarah Purdy [Sarah Hope] Age: 24 Estimated birth year: abt 1827 Relation: Wife Spouse's name: Robert Purdy Mother's name: Catherine Hope Gender: Female Where born: St John Westr, Middlesex, England Civil Parish: Westminster St John the Evangelist Ecclesiastical parish: St John County/Island: Middlesex Country: England Street address: Occupation: Condition as to marriage: Disability: View image Registration district: Westminster Sub-registration district: St John ED, institution, or vessel: 01 Neighbors: Household schedule number: 144 Piece: 1479 Folio: 20 Page Number: 32 Household Members: Name Age Robert Purdy 22 - carman Sarah Purdy 24 Robert Purdy 3 Catherine Hope 51 - mother-in-law, Newport Pagnell William Hope 17 - brother-in-law Anne Hope 15 - sister-in-law
Probably Catherine's first marriage to Wiliam Witton:
William Witton in the England, Select Marriages, 1538–1973 Name: William Witton Gender: Male Marriage Date: 24 Feb 1816 Marriage Place: Newport-Pagnell, Buckingham, England Spouse: Catherine Mackbright FHL Film Number: 1042394 Reference ID: item 1 p 25
I don't see her second marriage to Mr Hope, so far.
Robert and Sarah in 1861:
Sarah Purdy in the 1861 England Census Name: Sarah Purdy Age: 34 Estimated birth year: 1827 Relation: Wife Spouse's name: Robert Purdy Gender: Female Where born: Westminster Civil Parish: Westminster St Martin in the Fields Town: London County/Island: Middlesex Country: England Street address: Occupation: Condition as to marriage: View image Registration district: St Martin In The Fields Sub-registration district: Long Acre ED, institution, or vessel: 7 Neighbors: Household schedule number: 251 Piece: 59 Folio: 50 Page Number: 43 Household Members: Name Age Robert Purdy 37 - drayman Sarah Purdy 34 Robert Purdy 14
Sarah Purday in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1837-1915 Name: Sarah Purday Registration Year: 1864 Registration Quarter: Jan-Feb-Mar Registration district: St Giles Inferred County: London Volume: 1b Page: 411
Robert's remarriage:
Robert Purdy in the England, Select Marriages, 1538–1973 Name: Robert Purdy Gender: Male Marriage Date: 20 Aug 1865 Marriage Place: Saint Martin In The Fields,Westminster,London,England Spouse: Eliza Newbery
Robert Purdy in the 1881 England Census Name: Robert Purdy Age: 57 Estimated birth year: abt 1824 Relationship to Head: Head Spouse: Eliza Purdy Gender: Male Where born: Clerkenwell Civil Parish: St Giles in the Fields County/Island: London Country: England Street address: 192 Drury Lane Marital status: Married Education: Employment status: View image Occupation: Labourer Registration district: St Giles Sub registration district: St Giles, South ED, institution, or vessel: 7 Neighbors: Piece: 323 Folio: 87 Page Number: 2 Household Members: Name Age Robert Purdy 57 labourer Eliza Purdy 37 Louise Purdy 9 Robert Purdy 7 Charlotte Purdy 4 Alice Purdy 2 John Sml. Purdy
PURDY, LOUISA mms NEWBERY GRO Reference: 1872 M Quarter in ST GILES Volume 01B Page 541
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11 May 2020 16:46 |
Possibly Charles and Susan in 1861???
Charles Whitton in the 1861 England Census Name: Charles Whitton Age: 34 Estimated birth year: 1827 Relation: Head Spouse's name: Susanah Whitton Gender: Male Where born: Westminster St Johns Civil Parish: St Giles Ecclesiastical parish: London Town: London County/Island: Middlesex Country: England Street address: Occupation: Condition as to marriage: View image Registration district: St Giles Sub-registration district: St Giles South ED, institution, or vessel: 3 Neighbors: Household schedule number: 161 Piece: 168 Folio: 98 Page Number: 26 Household Members: Name Age Charles Whitton 34 Susanah Whitton 34 - ostler Sussand Whitton 11 James Whitton 6
But both children re said to be born in Westminster.
So maybe the man in India and Australia is a different Charles Witton with father William ??
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11 May 2020 16:17 |
1871 ????? same man ??:
Charles William Wilton in the 1871 England Census Name: Charles William Wilton Age: 46 Estimated birth year: 1825 Relation: Head Gender: Male Where born: Leamington Civil Parish: Lambeth Ecclesiastical parish: St Thomas County/Island: London Country: England Registration district: Lambeth Sub-registration district: Waterloo Road Second ED, institution, or vessel: 13 Household schedule number: 137 Piece: 654 Folio: 64 Page Number: 23 Household Members: Name Age Charles William Wilton 46 - ostler Mary Ann Wilton 35 James Wilton 17 - born Bombay
So possibly Charles's first marriage:
Charles Witton in the India, Select Marriages, 1792-1948 Name: Charles Witton Gender: Male Marital status: Single Age: 19 Birth Date: 1825 Marriage Date: 11 Mar 1844 Marriage Place: Bycullah, Bombay, India Father: William Witton Spouse: Sarah Anne Turnash FHL Film Number: 523843
Another child ??
Charles William Witten in the India, Select Births and Baptisms, 1786-1947 Name: Charles William Witten Gender: Male Birth Date: 14 Dec 1845 Baptism Date: 28 Dec 1845 Baptism Age: 0 Baptism Place: Bombay, Bombay, India Father: Charles William Witten Mother: Sarah Reference ID: v 19 p 306 FHL Film Number: 523844
and another:
Henry William Witton in the Victoria, Australia, St. Peter's Eastern Hill, Baptisms, 1848-1915 Name: Henry William Witton Birth Date: 16 Jul 1857 Baptism Date: 8 Nov 1857 Baptism Place: Melbourne, Bourke, Victoria, Australia Parish: St. Peter's Eastern Hill Father: Charles William Witton (formerly sexton in India ) Mother: Sarah Ann Witton
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11 May 2020 16:10 |
Now adding the bits about Charles which GR lost.
Jenny mentioned a marriage to Susan Norman, with Charles a widower.
Charles William Witton in the London, England, Church of England Marriages and Banns, 1754-1932 Name: Charles William Witton (widower, ostler) Gender: Male Record Type: Marriage Marriage Date: 19 Jun 1860 Marriage Place: St John the Evangelist, Lambeth, Lambeth, England Father: William Witton (tailor) Spouse: Susan Norman Register Type: Parish Register Address: Church Street.
Susan's death ??
Deaths Mar 1870 (>99%) Witton Susan 47 London C. 1c 24
Here's his presumed third marriage:
Charles William Witton in the London, England, Church of England Marriages and Banns, 1754-1932 Name: Charles William Witton (carpenter, widower) Gender: Male Record Type: Marriage Marriage Date: 5 Jun 1870 Marriage Place: St Mary, Lambeth, Lambeth, England Father: William Witton (deceased, tailor) Spouse: Mary Ann Fleming Register Type: Parish Register Address: Charles Street.
Then they're in 1881 and 1891 in my previous post.
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11 May 2020 15:59 |
Charles and Mary Ann in 1881:
Chas.Wm. Witton in the 1881 England Census Name: Chas.Wm. Witton Age: 50 Estimated birth year: abt 1831 Relationship to Head: Head Spouse: Mary Ann Witton Gender: Male Where born: Westminster Civil Parish: Lambeth County/Island: London Country: England Street address: 10 Lucretia St Marital status: Married Education: Employment status: View image Occupation: Carpenter Registration district: Lambeth Sub registration district: Waterloo Road Second ED, institution, or vessel: 11 Neighbors: Piece: 587 Folio: 92 Page Number: 3 Household Members: Name Age Chas.Wm. Witton 50 Mary Ann Witton 45 James Harrison 8 James Witton 24 Winifred Witton 23 Winifrid Witton 4 Catharine M. Witton 4
Charles Wetton in the 1891 England Census Name: Charles Wetton [Charles Witton] Gender: Male Age: 66 Relationship: Head Birth Year: 1825 Spouse: Mary A Wetton Birth Place: Westminster, London, England Civil Parish: Lambeth Ecclesiastical parish: St Thomas Residence Place: Lambeth, Lambeth, London, England Registration district: Lambeth Sub registration district: Waterloo Road Second ED, Institution or Vessel: 5 Neighbors: Piece: 390 Folio: 13 Household Members: Name Age Charles Wetton 66 Mary A Wetton 50
Possible death of Charles??
Deaths Mar 1899 (>99%) Whitton Charles 75 Lambeth 1d 208 Scan available - click to view
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11 May 2020 15:53 |
Have had a PM from Jenny, who is still working on this family, and wondering what became of the SIBLINGS of Ann Gearing, the widowed mother in 1871 below (previously posted by safc, but copied here again for ease of reference):
Also copying details of what Jenny thinks she knows about Ann's siblings, as given in a previous PM (also see my post dated 22 Nov 2017 @ 9:37 ) :
"I think these are Ann Sisters and Brother? Mary Witton 1813– BIRTH ABT 1813 • Westminster, Middlesex, England DEATH Unknown she married John William Thompson a family sighed the wedding certificates called Pardy/Purdy Mary was living at Church st, dad was a tailor called William Witton
sister Sarah Witton 1827–1864 BIRTH ABT 1827 • London, England DEATH 16 MARCH 1864 • Brewers Drive, St Giles, London, London, England married Robert Purdy in 1846 She also lived at Church street dad reads Charles William Witton not William, but the same address for the others.
brother Charles William Witton 1831– BIRTH 7 DEC 1831 • St John Westr, Middlesex, England DEATH Unknown he married susan norman as a Widow(i can't find his first wedding). he to was living at Church street, and sister Sarah as Pardy is a witness. Jessies mum Ann Witton her wedding to Charles Ashley in 1853 a witness is Sarah Purdy and dad is William Witton a tailor."
1871 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription 2 Smarts Buildings, St Giles, London, England
Anne Gearing Mother - Female 34 1837 - Middlesex, England Transcription Emily Jane Gearing Daughter - Female 8 1863 - Surrey, England Transcription Ann T Gearing Daughter - Female 5 1866 - Middlesex, England Transcription Mary A Gearing Daughter - Female 2 1869 - Middlesex, England Transcription Maria C Gearing Daughter - Female 0 1871 - Middlesex, England
Ann's maiden surname was Witton (sometimes Wetton).
Birth of daughter Emily from 1871 census:
GEARING, EMILY JANE mms WITTON GRO Reference: 1863 M Quarter in LAMBETH Volume 01D Page 295
Ann's first marriage:
Anne Wetton in the England, Select Marriages, 1538–1973 Name:: Anne Wetton Gender:: Female Marriage Date:: 10 Oct 1853 Marriage Place:: Saint Anne Soho,Westminster,London,England Spouse:: Charles Ashley
Her second marriage:
Ann Ashley in the London, England, Church of England Marriages and Banns, 1754-1932 Report issue Name:: Ann Ashley [Ann Witton] Gender:: Female Marriage Age:: 20 Record Type:: Marriage Birth Date:: abt 1836 Marriage Date:: 10 Mar 1856 Marriage Place:: St Mary, Lambeth, Lambeth, England Father:: William Witton (tailor) 99%) Witton Susan 47 London C. 1c 24
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Oh, bother! to put it mildly! I had a whole lot after that, about the sisters Sarah and Mary, and some about brother Charles, prior to the records in my next post below - but when I clicked "submit" GR has missed it all out!
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22 Nov 2017 16:00 |
It's possible her birth was registered in the name of whoever the father was - other than Gearing or Thackeray (or variation).
It's a pity the GRO website doesn't allow a search without the child's surname. The only way round that would be to work down the list of Jessies born 1st qr 1875 in London area - and try them one by one on GRO to see what the mms is.
A very long job!
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22 Nov 2017 11:07 |
According to the 1939 Register the Jessie Measures mentioned above was a Widow born 18 Jan 1875 address 17 Church Place, Malling, Kent. There are no other Jessie Measures on the Register.
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22 Nov 2017 09:37 |
Message from Jenny, via Ancestry:
I went to post this on Genes but I'd stopped my subs. i've just read everything and tried to post this, but couldn't.
Hi Thank you everyone that is trying to help. I'm still looking for Jessie Gearing's birth. On her wedding to James Measures her dad reads Henry Gearing a Cabinet Maker?. Her mum Ann Witton? if i've got it right was married to 2nd husband John Thomas Gearing before Jessies was born, he died before Jessie was born so won't be her dad. Jessies mum Ann then married James Thackerrey (spelt many ways) there is a census in 1881 where Jessie(written Jessica) and sister Mary are under stepdads name of Thackerrey. Jessies sister Mary married the surname of Dickeson and Mary is on her mums death certificate when she died. Jessies mum Ann Witton
I think these are Ann Sisters and Brother? Mary Witton 1813– BIRTH ABT 1813 • Westminster, Middlesex, England DEATH Unknown she married John William Thompson a family sighed the wedding certificates called Pardy/Purdy Mary was living at Church st, dad was a tailor called William Witton
sister Sarah Witton 1827–1864 BIRTH ABT 1827 • London, England DEATH 16 MARCH 1864 • Brewers Drive, St Giles, London, London, England married Robert Purdy in 1846 She also lived at Church street dad reads Charles William Witton not William, but the same address for the others.
brother Charles William Witton 1831– BIRTH 7 DEC 1831 • St John Westr, Middlesex, England DEATH Unknown he married susan norman as a Widow(i can't find his first wedding). he to was living at Church street, and sister Sarah as Pardy is a witness. Jessies mum Ann Witton her wedding to Charles Ashley in 1853 a witness is Sarah Purdy and dad is William Witton a tailor.
With all of this I still can't find them. Also look at a census Of Ann Gearing as a widow in 1871 her children are Emily Jane Gearing Ann T Gearing ( T stands for Theresa) Mary A Gearing Maria C Gearing
her children Mary S Gearing Elizabeth A Gearing Catherine M Gearing are missing on the census as they were staying with John Thomas dad William Whinery Gearing, so Ann didn't have all her children with her.
Then look at a census of Jessie Gearing married to James Measures in in 1901 and you'll see Ann Thackerrey on it. look above them to William Miller married Anne. Anne is Jessie's sister Ann Theresa Gearing, but her dad reads William Gearing. This is an error, because I've found Ann's baptism AND IT READS John Thomas Gearing. A witness is Thomas Woodley (he married Jessie sister Emily Gearing A witness Mary Gearing was also Jessies sister. Look at there William Miller and Ann's child Elizabeth Annie aka Lizzie Miller 1888–1972 BIRTH 5 TH JULY 1888 • 7 Kings Beach walk, Southwark, London, London, England DEATH MAR 1972 • Southwark, London, England married to Alfred Philip Elsey 1882–1948 BIRTH 21 DEC 1882 • Greenwich, London DEATH DEC 1948 • Surrey Mid eastern, Surrey, England
they went to Canada and came back. Elizabeth names her mums Ann Gearing's maiden name as Thackerrey, but I think it was an error as Gran was living and her remarried name was Thackerrey. Anyone that would like to view my tree, in the hope of finding where there younger years are feel free. Thank you Jenny
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21 Nov 2017 18:31 |
https://tinyurl.com/y73h95n7
So was Mary Adelaide Gearing Baptism (Ancestry, London) (2 Smarts Buildings Holborn) same as address for Grandfather William Whinrey Gearing on above, from google search)
If Jessie below...
Burial County Kent Place Wouldham Church name All Saints Register type Parish Register Register entry number 691 Burial date 22 Dec 1939 Person age 64 Burial person forename Jessie Burial person surname MEASURES Burial person abode 42 Magpie Hall Road Chatham
https://www.freereg.org.uk/
Chris :)
(just adding below, as it came up, and probably linked to Marriage below)
Birth GEARY, MARY ADELAIDE (SHAW) GRO Reference: 1868 D Quarter in SHOREDITCH Volume 01C Page 81
Marriages Jun 1853 (>99%) --------------------------------------------- Geary Patrick St Giles 1b 542 Shaw Maria St Giles 1b 542
Birth GEARING, FRANCES ELIZABETH (ASHLEY) GRO Reference: 1857 M Quarter in ST GILES & ST GEORGE BLOOMSBURY Volume 01B
All London, England, Church of England Births and Baptisms, 1813-1916 (Ancestry)
Frances Elizabeth Gearing 21 Dec 1856 St Giles in the Fields, Holborn Camden John Thomas, Ann (Born 2nd Dec. 1856, occ. Carpenter. Abode 29 Comptons?) (if referring to Buildings or Street, not stated)
Birth GEARING, FRANCES MARIA (WITTON) GRO Reference: 1859 S Quarter in ST GILES Volume 01B Page 392 Order
Marriages Mar 1856 (>99%) ---------------------------------------------------------- Ashley Ann Lambeth 1d 447 Gearing John Thomas Lambeth 1d 447
(below with a Witton)
1861 (Find My Past) John Gearing Head Married Male 31 1830 Clerk Clerkenwell, Middlesex, England Anne Gearing Wife Married Female 37 (27?) 1824 Seamstress Westminster, Middlesex, England Francis Gearing Daughter Unmarried Female 1 1860 Daur Holborn, Middlesex, England Elizabeth Gearing Daughter Unmarried Female 0 1861 Daur Lambeth, Surrey, England Kate Witton Grandmother Widow Female 60 1801 Grandmother Warehousewoman Newport Pagnell, Buckinghamshire, England 198, Waterloo Road, Lambeth, London & Surrey County London, Surrey
(no idea on Newport Pagnell below) (as William on FMP)
County Buckinghamshire Place Newport Pagnell Church name St Peter and St Paul Register type Phillimore's Transcripts Marriage date 24 Feb 1816 Groom forename Mylliam Groom surname WITTON Bride forename Catharine Bride surname MACKBRIGHT
https://www.freereg.org.uk/
(if the Marriage Witness below)
1851 (Find My Past) Mary Purdy Head Widow Female 48 1803 Waistcoat Maker Chelsea, Middlesex, England Drury Lane, St Giles in the Fields, St Giles, London & Middlesex,
(below Births for reference William Miller/Gearing Marriage 1887, if them 1901 Deptford, next to Jessie)
Birth MILLER, ELIZABETH ANNIE (GEARING) GRO Reference: 1888 S Quarter in ST SAVIOUR SURREY Volume 01D Page 20
Birth MILLER, WILLIAM JAMES (GEARING) GRO Reference: 1890 J Quarter in ST SAVIOUR LONDON Volume 01D Page 46
Edits (notes 1901 Deptford, Annie Age 64 on image)
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21 Nov 2017 14:04 |
I'm coming back to this thread following a message from Jenny via Ancestry - she's still looking for Ann Gearing, in the hope of finding Jessie's birth.
Starting again, and reading through the posts so far, to get it all straight in my head -
the 1871 census with Ann(e) Gearing (widow) with children Emily Jane, Ann T, Mary A, and Maria C is the correct one.
Then Jenny said Ann married James Thackerrey:
Marriages Sep 1877 (>99%) Gearing Ann Lambeth 1d 723 Thackerrey James Lambeth 1d 723 THACKERSBY James Lambeth 1d 723
So if Jessie was born c1875, she should be on the 1881 census with her mother and stepfather.
Have you found them in 1881, Jenny?
Is this the family in 1891?? With children as Thackeray ? "Jessica" 's YOB seems right, but Mary's is a bit out:
Ann Thackeray in the 1891 England Census Name: Ann Thackeray Gender: Female Age: 50 Relationship: Wife Birth Year: 1841 Spouse: James Thackeray Child: Mary Thackeray Jessica Thackeray Birth Place: Lambeth, London, England Civil Parish: St George the Martyr Ecclesiastical parish: St Alphage Residence Place: St George the Martyr, London, England Registration district: St Saviour Southwark Sub registration district: Borough Road ED, Institution or Vessel: 6 Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 347 Folio: 12 Household Members: Name Age James Thackeray 67 Ann Thackeray 50 Mary Thackeray 20 Jessica Thackeray 17
Mary Adelaide married in 1894:
Marriages Dec 1894 (>99%) Dickeson Thomas St. Saviour 1d 160 Gearing Mary Adelaide St. Saviour 1d 160
You said that Ann died at the Dickesons' address. Is this her death??
Deaths Mar 1905 (>99%) Thackerey Ann 66 Camberwell 1d 532
You said Jessie married James Measures -
Jessie Gearing in the London, England, Church of England Marriages and Banns, 1754-1931 Name: Jessie Gearing Gender: Female Marriage Age: 20 Record Type: Marriage Birth Date: abt 1876 Marriage Date: 26 Jan 1896 Marriage Place: St Philip, Lambeth, Lambeth, England Father: Henry Gearing Spouse: James Measures Register Type: Parish Register
so this will be the family in 1901:
Annie Thackerey in the 1901 England Census Name: Annie Thackerey Age: 25 Estimated birth year: abt 1876 [1837] Relation to Head: Mother-in-law Gender: Female Birth Place: Westminster, London, England Civil Parish: Deptford St Paul Ecclesiastical parish: St Katharine Rotherhithe County/Island: London Country: England Street address: Occupation: Condition as to marriage: Education: Employment status: View image Registration district: Greenwich Sub-registration district: Deptford, North ED, institution, or vessel: 15 Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 525 Folio: 173 Page Number: 34 Household schedule number: 218 Household Members: Name Age James Measures 28 Jessie Measures 25 - born Holborn Annie Thackerey 25 Jessie Measures 4 Mabel Measures 4 Weeks
Not that it's helped me find Jessie's birth!
The only Jessie Gearing birth in 1875 or thereabouts in London had mms Morris, which has already been discounted.
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31 Aug 2017 13:22 |
So if that Mary Ann above is mum maiden name ball then that isn't the one I found with mum nee Witton born Jan 1874,so where is she in 1881? Also can we find another Gearing-Witton marriage.
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31 Aug 2017 11:08 |
The marriage cert to William Jagger would be needed to find out that Mary Ann's father's name, to rule her either out or in.
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31 Aug 2017 11:02 |
HOWEVER _
Ancestry suggests that Mary Ann Jagger nee Gearing was this child below. If so, the tree's got the1874 Lambeth birth by mistake - and certainly the censuses all seem to give Mary Ann Jagger's YOB as 1873, not 1874:
Mary Ann Gearing in the London, England, Church of England Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906 Name: Mary Ann Gearing Record Type: Baptism Baptism Date: 23 Mar 1873 Father's name: Robert Gearing Mother's name: Sarah Gearing Parish or Poor Law Union: Chelsea St Simon Zelotes Borough: Kensington and Chelsea Register Type: Parish Registers
GEARING, MARY ANN mms BALL GRO Reference: 1873 M Quarter in CHELSEA Volume 01A Page 310
Marriages Dec 1862 (>99%) Ball Sarah Chelsea 1a 355 Gearing Robert Joseph Chelsea 1a 355
Mary A. Gearing in the 1881 England Census Name: Mary A. Gearing Age: 8 Estimated birth year: abt 1873 Relationship to Head: Daughter Father: Robert Gearing Mother: Sarah Gearing Gender: Female Where born: Chelsea, Middlesex, England Civil Parish: St Marys Islington County/Island: London Country: England Street address: 3 Brewery Rd Occupation: Scholar Registration district: Islington Sub registration district: Islington West ED, institution, or vessel: 47 Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 238 Folio: 97 Page Number: 20 Household Members: Name Age Robert Gearing 54 Sarah Gearing 41 James Gearing 14 Mary A. Gearing 8 Annie Gearing 6 George Gearing 1
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31 Aug 2017 10:54 |
A tree on Ancestry has a photo of her, and says she married William Jagger in 1891 Islington.
They had daughters Alice Maud (31/01/1891 Islington - 1974); Frances Minnie (29/01/1893 Islington - 1962); Annie Elizabeth (04/03/1895 Holborn - 1896 Holborn); Ada Florence (1903 - 1903 Islington); Rose Lilian (1911 - 1911 Islington); Mary Eleanor (1914-15 Islington).
Also sons: William (1897-98 Holborn); George J (1899 Islington - 1966); James (1904 Islington - 1978); John (1906 - 1907 Islington) ; Frederick Walter (1908 Islington - 1952); Albert (1912 Islington - 1974);
Husband died 1935 Islington. Mary Ann died 1957 Wandsworth.
Unfortunately the tree doesn't say who her parents were.
Mary A Jagger in the 1891 England Census Name: Mary A Jagger Gender: Female Age: 18 Relationship: Wife Birth Year: 1873 Spouse: William Jagger Child: Alice W Jagger Birth Place: Chelsea, London, England Civil Parish: Islington Ecclesiastical parish: St Michaels Residence Place: London City, Islington, London, England Registration district: Islington Sub registration district: Islington South West ED, Institution or Vessel: 38b Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 157 Folio: 104 Household Members: Name Age William Jagger 41 Mary A Jagger 18 Alice W Jagger 3/12
Mary A Jagger in the 1901 England Census Name: Mary A Jagger Age: 28 Estimated birth year: abt 1873 Relation to Head: Wife Gender: Female Spouse: William Jagger Birth Place: Chelsea, London, England Civil Parish: Islington Ecclesiastical parish: St Matthias County/Island: London Country: England Street address: Registration district: Islington Sub-registration district: Lower Holloway ED, institution, or vessel: 11 Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 172 Folio: 100 Page Number: 3 Household schedule number: 17 Household Members: Name Age William Jagger 34 Mary A Jagger 28 Frances M Jagger 8 George Jagger 2 Henry Jagger 8/12
Mary Ann Jagger in the 1911 England Census Name: Mary Ann Jagger Age in 1911: 38 Estimated birth year: abt 1873 Relation to Head: Wife Gender: Female Birth Place: ISLINGTON, Middlesex, England Civil Parish: Islington County/Island: London Country: England Street address: 41 Georges Rd, Holloway, Islington, London N Marital Status: Married Years Married: 21 Estimated Marriage Year: 1890 Registration district: Islington Registration District Number: 10 Sub-registration district: Lower Holloway ED, institution, or vessel: 21 Piece: 862 Household Members: Name Age William Jagger 44 Mary Ann Jagger 38 Alice Maud Jagger 20 George Jagger 12 Henry Jagger 10 James Jagger 7 Frederick Walter Jagger 3 Rose Lilian Jagger 0 James Henry Cummings 25 - boarder
Mary A Jagger in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1916-2007 Name: Mary A Jagger Death Age: 84 Birth Date: abt 1873 Registration Date: Jun 1957 Registration district: Wandsworth Inferred County: London Volume: 5d Page: 705
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31 Aug 2017 09:54 |
Can anyone find the Mary Ann Gearing born Jan 1874 with mum nee Witton anywhere,as I can't.
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31 Aug 2017 09:44 |
safc - births had to be rego'ed from 1875 on in England and Wales. It was always compulsory in Scotland and maybe Ireland too..
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30 Aug 2017 23:50 |
hi jennifer
i think you did not have to register births until 1885 may be they aren't registered
or they might be under a different surname ? i can't find them in 1881 abby
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30 Aug 2017 23:38 |
Safc. In looking for Jessie Morris Kensington you have shown me a Jessie Thompson, a Jessie Miller and a Jessie Woodley, all born in 1875 Kensington. All those surnames were her sisters married names, maybe one is Jesse Gearing?
Jessie's Mum Ann Witton has a sister called Mary Witton, she married John William Thompson in 1849. With your post I see a Jessie Thompson b 1875 Kensington.
Ann Daughter Emily married Thomas Woodley. Ann Daughter Ann T married William Miller both surnames there is a Jessie born 1875.
When Jessie was a widow aged 75 on a census she gave a birth of 18 Jan 1875, but I couldn't find anything, if that was her birth on one census?
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30 Aug 2017 22:42 |
Thank you I was clicking the name, then thought it might be sending a pm, and I need everyone's help on this one. Thank you
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