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23 Aug 2017 19:08 |
If you're sure about Elizabeth's YOB, Pauline, where was she born?
I don't see her birth in Scotland, at least.
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23 Aug 2017 19:02 |
I think 1885 is a mistake - she means 1785.
I don't see a marriage for Quentin and Elizabeth - but then it would only be in the old parish records, which aren't exhaustive.
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23 Aug 2017 18:41 |
(oh dear AG!, not sure where Pauline has seen Elizabeth Bradbury, for wife, seems she is 'connecting' to James Edward...(and looking at below again, what is the 1885?)...
"Its maybe going back to far to 1785 but I have Quenton McConnell 1885 Born Dailly Ayrshire"
Chris :)
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23 Aug 2017 18:25 |
From FS:
Other information in the record of Quintin Mcconnel from Scotland Births and Baptisms Name Quintin Mcconnel Gender Male Christening Date 24 Sep 1820 Christening Place DAILLY,AYR,SCOTLAND Birth Date 17 Sep 1820 Father's Name Quintin Mcconnel Mother's Name Elizabeth Brandbury
If the father of this child is Pauline's Quintin, then he couldn't have died in 1815.
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23 Aug 2017 14:55 |
But where is the Quentin/Elizabeth Marriage Pauline?...(and come to that, his Death 1815?)
Chris :)
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23 Aug 2017 13:29 |
Yes Chris Quentins apprenticeship would be right has the McNabs are related
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23 Aug 2017 13:19 |
1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription Park House, Wolverton, Pottersbury, Northamptonshire, England
Learn more Print transcription View image Household Members First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place James E McConnele Head Married Male 36 1815 Mechanical Engineer Ireland Transcription Charlotte McConnele Wife Married Female 27 1824 Engineers Wife Burnham, Essex, England Transcription Quenten A McConnele Son Unmarried Male 2 1849 Engineers Son Wolverton, Buckinghamshire, England Transcription Edith C McConnele Daughter Unmarried Female 1 1850 Engineers Daur Wolverton, Buckinghamshire, England Transcription Hannah Potter Servant Unmarried Female 24 1827 House Servant Essex, England Transcription Susannah Kent Servant Unmarried Female 38 1813 House Servant Bedfordshire, England Transcription John Hall Servant Unmarried Male 17 1834 House Servant Bedfordshire, England Transcription James Addison Visitor Married Male 77 1774 Retired Surgeon London, Middlesex, England Transcription Elizabeth Addison Visitor Married Female 65 1786 Surgeons Wife Burnham, Essex, England
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23 Aug 2017 13:09 |
FreeReg Marriage entry Link for reporting error in transcription Field Value County Essex Place (link for place information) Burnham-On-Crouch Church name St Mary the Virgin Register type Parish Register Register entry number 147 Marriage date 01 Feb 1848 Groom forename James Edward Groom surname MCCONNELL Groom age full age Groom condition bachelor Groom abode Wolverton Park Buckinghamshire Groom occupation Civil Engineer Bride forename Charlotte Bowten Bride surname ADDISON Bride age full age Bride condition spinster Bride abode Burnham Groom father forename Quenton Groom father surname MCCONNELL Groom father occupation Millwright Bride father forename James Bride father surname ADDISON Bride father occupation Surgeon Witness James ADDISON Witness Charlotte KEMP Register note Married by license Transcriber notes
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23 Aug 2017 13:06 |
England Marriages 1538-1973 Transcription Print transcription First name(s) Charlotte Bowton Last name Addison Name note - Marriage year 1848 Marriage date 01 Feb 1848 Marriage place Burnham Father's first name(s) James Father's last name Addison Spouse's first name(s) James Edward Spouse's last name McConnell Spouse's father's first name(s) Quentin Spouse's father's last name Mcconnell Residence Burnham, Essex, England County Essex Country England Record set England Marriages 1538-1973 Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records Subcategory Marriages & divorces Collections from England, Great Britain
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23 Aug 2017 12:58 |
The marriage James Chris was in Barnham Essex in 1948 to Charlotte Bowton Addison
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23 Aug 2017 12:58 |
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another quentin
Scotland Births and Baptisms 1564-1950 Transcription Print transcription First name(s) Quintin Last name McConnel Gender Male Birth year 1782 Birth place - Baptism year 1782 Baptism date 24 Aug 1782 Baptism place DAILLY,AYR,SCOTLAND Father's first name(s) William Father's last name McConnel Mother's first name(s) - Mother's last name - Place Dailly County Ayrshire Country Scotland Record set Scotland Births & Baptisms 1564-1950 Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records Subcategory Births & baptisms Collections from Scotland, Great Britain
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23 Aug 2017 12:43 |
Will look it up in a minute, Chris!
Re siblings - the tree isn't to be trusted! One sibling, Richard, it says was born 1790 in County Down, but the "proof" attached is for a Richard baptised 1833 in Dublin, parents William and Mary Anne !
Another supposed sibling, born 1795 in Blantyre, has parents (per SP) James McConnell and Agnes McClurkin. I'm sure this is a completely different couple, though can't find their marriage.
Re Quentin's death - the dodgy tree says he died before 1820, and suggests Dailly.
I can't find his death anywhere, I'm afraid - not Dailly (or Scotland as a whole), nor Ireland. Not anywhere on Ancestry or FS. Maybe someone with more access to Irish records will find something?
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23 Aug 2017 12:34 |
(wonder where his 1815 Death was, from article?)...
Chris :)
(leaving him in your capable hands AG, lol, need lunch here!)
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23 Aug 2017 12:32 |
The Ancestry tree lists a large number of siblings for Quentin. From SP, this is one of them - though can't prove that's the right James, without comparing the image with that of Quentin's birth, in case of address:
MCCONNEL ALEXANDER JAMES MCCONNEL/ 0 10/03/1787 585/ 10 235 Dailly
According to the tree, other siblings were born variously in Lanarkshire, Dailly, and County Down.
From SP, this is the birth of one of them, giving mother as Davidson:
MCCONNEL ELIZABETH CHRIS . . . . . . JAMES MCCONNEL/AGNES DAVIDSON FR278 (FR278) 0 17/03/1794 585/ 10 290 Dailly
Elizabeth Christian Thomson McConnell (per the tree)
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23 Aug 2017 12:14 |
(perhaps him also)
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Britain, country apprentices 1710-1808 Transcription (Find My Past)
First name(s) Quinton Last name McConnell Role Apprentice Indenture or registration year 1803 Indenture year 1803 Registration year 1804 Apprentice's first name(s) Quinton Apprentice's last name Mcconnell Master's first name(s) John Master's last name Mcnabb Master's occupation Cartwright Master's place Dalquharran Master's county Ayrshire
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23 Aug 2017 12:09 |
A couple of possibilities for his parents' marriage:
MCCONNEL JAMES SARAH CRAWFORD/FR446 (FR446) 02/05/1782 585/ 10 492 Dailly
MCCONNEL JAMES AGNES DAVIDSON/FR428 (FR428) 14/12/1775 585/ 10 474 Dailly
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A tree on Ancestry says his mother was Agnes McClarking, born 1765. No proof offered.
The tree says James & Agnes married in Dailly on 13/12/1775, but I can't find any such marriage on SP.
The Agnes Davidson marriage above is only one day out from that.
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23 Aug 2017 12:06 |
His birth record on parish registers on Scotlands People:
MCCONNEL QUINTIN Father: JAMES MCCONNEL/ 0 04/03/1785 585/ 10 226 Dailly
A few credits on SP would let you see the image of the original document, but it probably wouldn't tell you any more than above. Maybe his father's address.
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23 Aug 2017 11:51 |
http://wolvertonpast.blogspot.co.uk/2010/10/james-edward-mcconnell.html
https://www.gracesguide.co.uk/James_Edward_McConnell
http://www.steamindex.com/people/mcconnel.htm
(does above relate?)
Where was the Marriage Pauline?...
Chris :)
(from above)
(James Edward McConnell was born on the 1st January 1815 at Fermoy, County Cork, of Quentin and Elizabeth McConnell, he Scottish born and she English. Quentin was a millwright. After Quentin's early death in 1815 James was sent to Watshouse in Ayrshire into the care of an uncle. He was apprenticed to a Glasgow ironworks in 1828, Claud Girdwood & Co. in which a cousin had an interest. He then went to work at Bury's Clarence Foundry in Liverpool in 1837)
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16 June 1883 - Bucks Herald - Aylesbury, Buckinghamshire, England
Death McConnell - At The Woodlands, Great Missenden, on the 11th inst., James Edward McConnell Esq. C.E., J.P., in his 68th year.
02 July 1885 - Bath Chronicle and Weekly Gazette - Bath, Somerset, England
Marriage June 24, at Berwick Bassett, Wilts, the Rev. C. J. McConnell, Curate of Berwick Bassett, son of the late James Edward McConnell, Esq., ot Woodlands, Buckinghamshire, to Beatrice Howard Jackson Lowe, youngest daughter of the Rev. E. J. Lowe, Vicar of Stallingborough, Lincolnshire.
1881 (Find My Past) James E Mc Connell Head Married Male 66 1815 J P For Bucks & Civil & Mechanical Engineer Ireland Charlotte Mc Connell Wife Married Female 57 1824 - Essex, England Edward Mc Connell Son Single Male 22 1859 Student Oxford Wolverton, Buckinghamshire, England Ronald Mc Connell Son Single Male 20 1861 Student Oxford Wolverton, Buckinghamshire, England James Addison Nephew Single Male 21 1860 Student Durham Jamaica, West Indies Florence Mc Connell Daughter Single Female 16 1865 - Woodlands, Buckinghamshire, England Emily Saving Servant Single Female 21 1860 Domestic Servant Banbury, Oxfordshire, England Elizabeth Nash Servant Single Female 18 1863 Domestic Servant Lee, Buckinghamshire, England Woodlands Park Parish Great Missenden County Buckinghamshire Registration district Amersham Archive reference RG11 Piece number 1450 Folio 63 Page 3
Marriages Jun 1885 (>99%) ------------------------------------------------------------------- LOWE Beatrice Howard J Marlbro' 5a 139 MCCONNELL Charles James Marlbro' 5a 139
Marriages Mar 1848 (>99%) ------------------------------------------------------------- Addison Charlotte Bowton Maldon 12 219 McConnell James Edward Maldon 12 219
County Essex Place Burnham-On-Crouch Church name St Mary the Virgin Register type Parish Register Register entry number 147 Marriage date 01 Feb 1848 Groom forename James Edward Groom surname MCCONNELL Groom age full age Groom condition bachelor Groom abode Wolverton Park Buckinghamshire Groom occupation Civil Engineer Bride forename Charlotte Bowten Bride surname ADDISON Bride age full age Bride condition spinster Bride abode Burnham Groom father forename Quenton Groom father surname MCCONNELL Groom father occupation Millwright Bride father forename James Bride father surname ADDISON Bride father occupation Surgeon Witness James ADDISON Witness Charlotte KEMP Register note Married by license
https://www.freereg.org.uk/
Oxford University Alumni, 1500-1886 (Ancestry)
(has below)
Rev Charles James McConnell Rev Edward Alexander McConnell Ronald Stafford McConnell
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23 Aug 2017 11:47 |
Its maybe going back to far to 1785 but I have Quenton McConnell 1885 Born Dailly Ayrshire he was MARRIED TO Elizabeth Bradbury b 1795 could anyone help with any info on him ..thank you
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