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18 Aug 2017 19:05 |
in 1891 Joseph Greenwood aged 12 is show as grandson of the head of the house - that being Nancy Winder - my connection and her husband Thomas Gott - Residence Westmorland, England. The children of the above couple are
Mary Jane Gott 1861 Margaret 1863 Bestsy 1870 John 1871 Sarah 1874
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18 Aug 2017 19:15 |
1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription Berks, Farm Yard, Mansergh, Kendal, Westmorland, England
Thomas Gott Head Married Male 55 1836 Farmer Westmorland, England Nancy Gott Wife Married Female 56 1835 - Westmorland, England Bessie Gott Daughter Single Female 21 1870 - Yorkshire, England John Gott Son Single Male 20 1871 - Yorkshire, England Sarah Gott Daughter Single Female 17 1874 - Yorkshire, England Joseph Greenwood Grandson Single Male 12 1879 Scholar - William Jackson - Single Male 20 1871 Servant Westmorland, England Jonathan Thornburrow - Single Male 14 1877 Servant Westmorland, England
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18 Aug 2017 19:16 |
Yes Nyx that is the census I found him on - Thank you :-)
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18 Aug 2017 19:22 |
Image seems to be Greenwood not Grimwood, born Liverpool
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18 Aug 2017 19:30 |
This would seem to be him in 1901 confirming Liverpool as POB but not yet found him in 1881 or parents
1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription Holt Riddings Farm, Kirkby Lonsdale, Kendal, Westmorland, England
Robert Lucas Jolleys Head Married Male 46 1855 Farmer Ellel, Lancashire, England Mary Downham Jolleys Wife Married Female 46 1855 - Quernmore, Lancashire, England Margaret Elenior Jolleys Daughter Single Female 17 1884 - Kirkby Lonsdale, Westmorland, England Transcription John Jolleys Son Single Male 15 1886 Farmer's Son Kirkby Lonsdale, Westmorland, England Richard Gardner Jolleys Son Single Male 13 1888 - Kirkby Lonsdale, Westmorland, England William Jolleys Son - Male 8 1893 - Kirkby Lonsdale, Westmorland, England Charles Robert Jolleys Son - Male 5 1896 - Kirkby Lonsdale, Westmorland, England Joseph Greenwood Servant Single Male 22 1879 Ordinary Agricultural Laborer Liverpool, Lancashire, England <<<<<<
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18 Aug 2017 19:33 |
Not with them in 1881
1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription Rash, Dent, Sedbergh, Yorkshire, England Thomas Gott Head Married Male 45 1836 Farmer Of 44 Acres Westmorland, England Nancy Gott Wife Married Female 46 1835 Farmers Wife Dent, Yorkshire, England Mary Jane Gott Daughter Single Female 20 1861 Farmers Daughter Dent, Yorkshire, England Margaret Gott Daughter Single Female 18 1863 Farmers Daughter Dent, Yorkshire, England Betsy Gott Daughter Single Female 11 1870 Farmers Daughter Dent, Yorkshire, England John Gott Son Single Male 10 1871 Farmers Son Dent, Yorkshire, England Sarah Gott Daughter Single Female 7 1874 Farmers Daughter Dent, Yorkshire, England
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18 Aug 2017 19:41 |
1871 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription Rash, Dent, Sedburgh, Yorkshire, England
Thomas Gott Head - Male 35 1836 - Westmorland, England Nancy Gott Wife - Female 36 1835 - Westmorland, England Ann Gott Daughter - Female 15 1856 - Yorkshire, England Mary Jane Gott Daughter - Female 10 1861 - Yorkshire, England Margaret Gott Daughter - Female 8 1863 - Yorkshire, England Elizabeth Gott Daughter - Female 6 1865 - Yorkshire, England Betsy Gott Daughter - Female 1 1870 - Yorkshire, England John Gott Son - Male 0 1871 - Yorkshire, England Isaac Pickthall Servant - Male 17 1854 - Yorkshire, England
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18 Aug 2017 19:47 |
Daughters Ann and Mary Jane seem to be from first marriage
1861 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription High Hollins, Moss, Sedbergh, Yorkshire, England
Thomas Gott Head Married Male 25 1836 Farmer Of 40 Acres Of Land Westmorland, England Margaret Gott Wife Married Female 25 1836 Farmers Wife Dent, Yorkshire, England Ann Gott Daughter - Female 5 1856 - Sedbergh, Yorkshire, England Mary J Gott Daughter - Female 0 1861 - Sedbergh, Yorkshire, England Mary Egglin Servant Unmarried Female 18 1843 House Servant Sedbergh, Yorkshire, England John Sedgwick Servant Unmarried Male 16 1845 Farm Servant Sedbergh, Yorkshire, England
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Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it
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18 Aug 2017 19:51 |
Not seeing Joseph with mmn Gott on the gro record
There is this one though
GREENWOOD, BEN GOTT GRO Reference: 1877 J Quarter in KEIGHLEY Volume 09A Page 222
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18 Aug 2017 19:55 |
Marriages Sep 1867 (>99%) Gott Thomas E. Ward 10b 781 Winder Nancy E.Ward 10b 781
1861 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription Walk, Ravenstonedale, East Ward, Westmorland, England
Richard Fothergill Head Unmarried Male 28 1833 ...Farmer 45 Acres Of Land Ravenstonedale, Westmorland, England Transcription Nancy Winder Servant Unmarried Female 26 1835 Domestic Servant Ravenstonedale, Westmorland, England
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18 Aug 2017 20:11 |
I don't know if this is relevant, needs checking ot but first marriage of Thomas Gott seems to be this one
Marriages Jun 1855 (>99%) CAPSTICK Margaret Kendal 10b 809 GOTT Thomas Kendal 10b 809
Results: Name: Mother's Maiden Surname: GOTT, MARGARET CAPSTICK Order GRO Reference: 1862 D Quarter in SEDBERGH Volume 09A Page 2 GOTT, MARY=JANE CAPSTICK Order GRO Reference: 1861 M Quarter in SEDBERGH Volume 09A Page 1
There is a Joseph Greenwood born 1878 West derby ( Liverpool ) whose mmn is given as Cabstick but I think it is Capstick, there are a couple of Capstick? Greenwood marriages in the Sedbergh district which 'might' tie in. If Joseph was not actually the grandson of Thomas and Nancy , but connected to his first wife Margaret Capstick....??
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18 Aug 2017 20:15 |
GREENWOOD, JOSEPH HENRY CABSTICK Order GRO Reference: 1878 J Quarter in WEST DERBY AND TOXTETH PARK Volume 08B Page 625
1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription 3, Prince Alfred Road, Wavertree, West Derby, Lancashire, England
John Greenwood Head Married Male 32 1849 Cow Keeper (Dairyman) Dent, Yorkshire, England Anne Greenwood Wife Married Female 26 1855 - Dent, Yorkshire, England Joseph H Greenwood Son Single Male 2 1879 - Wavertree, Lancashire, England Elizabeth G Greenwood Sister Single Female 18 1863 - Dent, Yorkshire, England Mary Gaffney Lodger Widow Female 69 1812 Charwoman Ireland
Marriages Dec 1877 (>99%) CAPSTICK Annie Sedbergh 9a 1 Greenwood John Sedbergh 9a 1
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18 Aug 2017 20:19 |
Ok so Annie Capstick who married Greenwood appears to be Margaret Gott's daughter born just before her marriage to Thomas?
CAPSTICK, ANN - Order GRO Reference: 1855 J Quarter in SEDBERGH Volume 09A Page 1
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18 Aug 2017 20:57 |
from Lancopc
Baptism: 6 Jul 1878 Holy Trinity, Wavertree, Lancashire, England Joseph Henry Greenwood - [Child] of John Greenwood & Anne Abode: Wavertree Occupation: Cow Keeper Baptised by: R. B. Lowe Register: Baptisms 1843 - 1898, Page 202, Entry 1610 Source: LDS Film 2147886
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19 Aug 2017 12:49 |
Thank you all for your assistance and help once more much appreciated.
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