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Just seen this latest bit -how sad :-(

Just seen this latest bit -how sad :-(

Looks to relate...

Chris :)

11 September 1928 - Western Morning News - Plymouth, Devon, England

WESTERN POLICE COURTS
Sad case of Missing Defendant
That a defendant on bail, who could not be found, was probably suffering severely from the effects of drink was the theory advanced at Exeter Police Court yesterday when Edward Collins, of Adelaide-villas, Cedars-road, Exeter, a Customs officer, failed to appear in answer to a charge of being drunk and incapable in Barnfield-road Saturday night.
The Chief constable said it was a very sad case, and when the man was found he would need treatment in a mental home or a hospital.
Constable Jarman who took the man into custody said he found a bottle three parts full of whisky in his pocket. A fine of 10s. was imposed.


31 May 1918 - Western Times - Exeter, Devon, England

Death
WILLIAMS - May 24th, at Adelaide Villa, Cedars-road, Robert Williams, R.S.M., R.G.A., aged 58 years. R.I.P.


03 February 1928 - Western Times - Exeter, Devon, England

Death
WILLIAMS - On January 29th, at Adelaide Villa, Cedar-road, Susan, aged 71, widow of the late R.S.M. R. Williams.


(below looks to have been added, after Death of Susan)

http://www.devonheritage.org/Places/Exeter/ExeterHC1914CasualtiesnotonWarMem.htm

(EXETER HIGHER CEMETERY
GREAT WAR CASUALTIES NOT INCLUDED ON THE WAR MEMORIAL)


R WILLIAMS

132174 Sergeant Major Robert Williams of the No 7 Training School, the Royal Garrison Artillery. Husband of the late Susan William ( née Giles); father of Edward Williams of Adelaide Villa, Cedar Road, Exeter. Born in Dublin, Ireland, in 1859. Died 24 May 1918 aged 58. Buried in Exeter Higher Cemetery 27 May 1918.

This will be her death

Deaths Mar 1928 (>99%)
Williams Susan 71 Exeter 5b 103

and probate

Name: Susan Williams
Death Date: 29 Jan 1928
Death Place: Exeter, Devon, England
Probate Date: 20 Feb 1928
Registry: Exeter

of Adelaide Villas Cedar Road
to Lilian Maud Williams, spinster
Effects £198 2s 10d

Andy

thank you for your help

This looks like Susan Giles in 1861 with her parents and siblings.

Place of birth agrees with 1911.

Name: Susan Giles
Age: 4
Estimated birth year: 1857
Relation: Daughter
Father's name: John Giles
Mother's name: Jane Giles
Gender: Female
Where born: Plympton St Mary, Devon, England
Civil Parish: Colebrook and Plympton St Mary
County/Island: Devon
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

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Registration district: Plympton St Mary
Sub-registration district: Plympton
ED, institution, or vessel: 5
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 41
Piece: 1430
Folio: 60
Page Number: 9
Household Members:
Name Age
John Giles 40 Journeyman Carpenter
Jane Giles 37
Jane Giles 14
Stephen J Giles 12
Elizabeth A Giles 9
William H Giles 7
>>>Susan Giles 4
Thomas Giles 2


This would be her parents marriage

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
Marriages Jun 1845 (>99%)

Giles John Plympton St M'y 9 475
Preston Jane Plympton St M 9 475

Andy

and 1891

Name: Robert Williams
Gender: Male
Age: 33
Relationship: Head
Birth Year: 1858
Spouse: Susan Williams
Child: Lily M Williams
Robert Williams
Mary L Williams
John Williams
Thomas Williams
Birth Place: Ireland
Civil Parish: Budock
Ecclesiastical parish: Budock
Residence Place: Budock, Cornwall, England
Registration district: Falmouth
Sub registration district: Falmouth
ED, Institution or Vessel: 11
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 1835
Folio: 124
Household Members:
Name Age
Robert Williams 33
Susan Williams 32
Lily M Williams 8
Robert Williams 7
Mary L Williams 5
John Williams 1
Thomas Williams 8/12


Address Pendennis Castle

Robert Occupation Battery Commander RA

Andy

Family 1901

All eight children at home.

Name: Robert Williams
Age: 41
Estimated birth year: abt 1860
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Male
Spouse: Susan Williams
Birth Place: Dublin, Ireland
Civil Parish: Tormoham and Torquay
Search Photos: Search for 'Tormoham and Torquay' in the UK City, Town and Village Photos collection
Ecclesiastical parish: Tormoham All Saints and St Saviour
Town: Torquay
County/Island: Devon
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

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Registration district: Newton Abbot
Sub-registration district: Torquay
ED, institution, or vessel: 03
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 2058
Folio: 69
Page Number: 28
Household schedule number: 209
Household Members:
Name Age
Robert Williams 41
Susan Williams 43
Lilian M Williams 18
Robert Williams 17
Mary K Williams 15
John Williams 11
Thomas Williams 10
Edward Williams 8
Frederick G Williams 7
Henry P Williams 5


Address 3 Torre Square

Andy

oh wow thank you - thats more than enough!!! my friend will be delighted with all this -and if she wantes to follow more up she ahs loads to start with!! thanks so much xxx

Despite his age, he signed up for WW1. Record gives his marriage date as 31 Dec 1881. Along with name and date of birth of all children (will transcribe if requested)

Posted to Training School (looks like Dorking)

Would seem he caught Hepititus inJan 1918, was discharged and died at home.



Robert Williams

in the British Army WWI Service Records, 1914-1920


Name: Robert Williams
Gender: Male
Birth Date: abt 1860
Enlistment Age: 55
Marriage Date: 31 Dec 1881
Marriage Place: Resolis Office Plivewouth(Register Office Plymouth)
Document Year: 1915
Residence Place: Adelaide Villa, Cedar Road Exeter
Regimental Number: 90550
Regiment Name: Devonshire Regiment
Number of Images: 49
Form Title: Short Service Attestation
Other Records: Search for 'Robert Williams' in other WWI collections
Family Members:
Name Relation to Soldier
Robert Williams Self (Head)
Giles Spouse
Buned M Exrock Williams Child (actually says 'Buried in St Thomas Cemetery Exeter)


Andy

May be of interest

England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations), 1858-1966, 1973-1995


Name: Robert Williams
Death Date: 24 May 1918
Death Place: Exeter, Devon, England
Probate Date: 30 Aug 1918
Registry: Exeter


of Adelaide Villa, Cedar Road Exeter
Regimental sergent major RGA (Royal Garrison Artillery)
to Andrew Ward, RSM and Francis Rivers Railaway Clerk
Effects £129 14s

Andy

Is this the family you are looking for? :-

1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
1 Cedars Road Exeter, Exeter, Devon, England

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Print transcription View image Household Members
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Occupation Age Birth year Birth place
Robert Williams Head Married Male Wen Office Clerk 52 1859 Ireland Dublin Transcription
Susan Williams Wife Married Female - 54 1857 Devon Colebrook Transcription
Lilian Maud Williams Daughter Single Female Assistant Drapery And Outfitting 28 1883 Devon Plymouth Transcription
Mary Louise Williams Daughter Single Female Assistant China And Glass 25 1886 Cornwall Falmouth Transcription
Edward Williams Son Single Male Assistant Wholesale Drapery 18 1893 Cornwall Falmouth Transcription
Frederick George Williams Son Single Male Apprentice Electrical Engineer 17 1894 Cornwall Falmouth Transcription
Henry Preston Williams Son Single Male - 15 1896 Cornwall Falmouth

Says married 30 years. Gives the address as "Adelaide", 1 Cedar Road.

Kath. x

oh fabulous!! bingo - wish everyone was that easy!!! thabks so much

Their marriage

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
Marriages Dec 1881 (>99%)
GILES Susan Plymouth 5b 570
WILLIAMS Robert Plymouth 5b 570


Andy

thats great thank you!

Here you are.....Correct address and with son Edward


Name: Robert Williams
Age in 1911: 52
Estimated birth year: abt 1859
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Dublin, Ireland
Civil Parish: Exeter
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County/Island: Devon
Country: England
>>>>>Street address: Adelaide, 1 Cedars Road, Exeter
Marital Status: Married
Occupation: War Office Clerk
Registration district: Exeter
Registration District Number: 271
Sub-registration district: Exeter
ED, institution, or vessel: 20
Household schedule number: 298
Piece: 12688
Household Members:
Name Age
Robert Williams 52
Susan Williams 54
Lilian Mabel Williams 28
Mary Louise Williams 25
Edward Williams 18
Frederick Geo Williams 17
Henry Preston Williams 15


Married 30 years. 8 children born, all living


Andy

also the wife was Susan and a death of Robert gives her maiden as 'Giles' hoping 1911 will say how long they had been married as i haven't found a marriage for them -but think i have Robert as 'single in 1881 in a lodging house in Exeter.

Please can anyone view the info on 1911
Robert and Susan William Exeter Devon - he was born Ireland and posssibly have a son Edward
(Looking for a friend but don't have access at the moment and library being rebuilt!)

Particularly interested if they live in 'Adelaide Villa' cedar road as my friend just found the house name under a piece of rotten wood that could have been there for a very long time!
help really apprecicated