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Hi I am trying to find any information about Arthur Oldham born 1917, he was my granddad. He was killed in ww2. I think his dad was Daniel Oldham mum Louisa Johnson but can't be sure. Anyone know where he might be buried??

Welcome to the boards, Susan.


For helpers' reference:


Arthur Oldham
in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Birth Index, 1916-2005
Name: Arthur Oldham
Mother's Maiden Surname: Johnson
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1917
Registration district: Leicester
Inferred County: Leicestershire
Volume Number: 7a
Page Number: 296

He doesn't seem to be on the Commonwealth War Graves site:

http://www.cwgc.org/

EDIT: Possible?

OLDHAM, ARTHUR
Rank:Lance CorporalService No:4860807Date of Death:24/03/1945Age:27Regiment/Service:Royal Corps of Signals 1 Airborne Corps Sigs. Grave Reference:VIII. E. 4.Cemetery:VENRAY WAR CEMETERY

His parents' marriage:

Marriages Jun 1904 (>99%)
Johnson Louisa Leicester 7a 457
Oldham Daniel Leicester 7a 457

???

Arthur Oldham
in the UK, Army Roll of Honour, 1939-1945
Name: Arthur Oldham
Given Initials: A
Rank: Lance Corporal
Death Date: 24 Mar 1945
Number: 4860807
Birth Place: Leicester
Residence: Leicester
Branch at Enlistment: Royal Corps of Signals
Theatre of War: Western Europe Campaign, 1944/45
Regiment at Death: Royal Corps of Signals
Branch at Death: Royal Corps of Signals

If that's him above, then this is where he's buried:

ARTHUR OLDHAM

Rank:
Lance Corporal
Service No:
4860807
Date of Death:
24/03/1945
Age:
27
Regiment/Service:
Royal Corps of Signals

1 Airborne Corps Sigs.
Grave Reference:
VIII. E. 4.
Cemetery:
VENRAY WAR CEMETERY

Arthur
Last name Oldham
Service number 4860807
Rank J Lance-Corporal
Regiment Royal Corps Of Signals
Birth place Leicester
Residence Leicester
Death year 1945
Death day 24
Death month 3
Theatre of war Western Europe Campaign, 1944/45
Record set Army Roll Of Honour 1939-1945
Category Military, armed forces & conflict
Subcategory Second World War
Collections from Great Britain, UK None

???
FRANK
Last name OLDHAM
Marriage quarter 2
Marriage year 1917
Registration month -
MarriageFinder™ FRANK OLDHAM married
Mildred E Johnson
Spouse's last name Johnson
District Leicester
District number -
County Leicestershire
Country England
Volume 7A
Page 523

1901
34, Glen Street, Leicester, Leicestershire, England


First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Joseph Oldham Head Married Male 35 1866 Foreman Clicker Shoe Trade Leicester, Leicestershire, England
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Elizabeth A Oldham Wife Married Female 33 1868 - Loughborough, Leicestershire, England
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Bertie F Oldham Son Single Male 10 1891 - Leicester, Leicestershire, England
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Frank Oldham Son Single Male 5 1896 - Leicester, Leicestershire, England

1911
63 Coral Street Leicester, Leicester, Leicestershire, England

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Household Members
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Occupation Age Birth year Birth place
Elizabeth Johnson Head Widow Male - 35 1876 Warwickshire Birmingham
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Mildred Emily Johnson Daughter - Female Hosiery Linker 14 1897 Leicester Leicestershire
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Gladys Foster Boarder Single Female Milliner 23 1888 Clacton on Sea Essex
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Harry Fletcher Boarder Single Male Engineer's Toolmaker 23 1888 Stafford Staff

Venray War Cemetery:


Country:
Netherlands
Locality:
Limburg (Netherlands)
Identified Casualties:
662
GPS
CO-Ordinates:

Longitude:
5.95541
Latitude:
51.52906

Location Information

The town of Venray lies in the south of the Netherlands approx 40kms to the east of Eindhoven.

From the A73 Nijmegen to Venlo motorway take exit 9 (Afrit 9) N270 VENRAY / HELMOND and follow the signs for HELMOND.
Continue for approx 3kms to a roundabout and turn right (CWGC sign) onto the LANGSTRAAT.
Continue for approx 800m and turn left (CWGC sign) onto the WESTSINGEL. Continue for approx 1km and turn left (CWGC sign) onto the HOENDERSTRAAT.
The cemetery can be found after approx 700m on the right.

The cemetery address is:-
Hoenderstraat
5801 Venray
Netherlands

GPS Location is:-
N 51 31 45
E 05 57 20

Visiting Information

Wheelchair access to this cemetery possible via main entrance. For further information regarding wheelchair access, please contact our Enquiries Section on 01628 507200.

Historical Information

The Netherlands fell to the Germans in May 1940 and was not re-entered by Allied forces until September 1944.

The town of Venray was liberated by Allied troops in the middle of October 1944, and the burials in the cemetery date from October 1944 to March 1945.

Venray War Cemetery contains 692 Commonwealth burials of the Second World War, 30 of them unidentified, and one Polish burial.


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Marriages Jun 1904   
Johnson
 Louisa
 
 Leicester
 7a
457
  
Oldham
 Daniel
 
 Leicester
 7a
457

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Daniel
Last name Oldham
Age 25
Birth year 1879
Residence 57 Burley's Lane
Father's first name(s) James
Father's last name Oldham
Marriage year 1904
Marriage date 02 Apr 1904
Spouse's first name(s) Louisa
Spouse's last name Johnson
Spouse's age 24
Spouse's residence 5 Clara Terrace, Northumberland St
Spouse's father's first name(s) William
Spouse's father's last name Johnson
Denomination Anglican
Place Leicester, St Margaret's
County Leicestershire
Country England
Archive Record Office for Leicestershire, Leicester & Rutland
Archive reference DE4736/4
Record set Leicestershire Marriages
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Marriages & divorces
Collections from England, Great Britain

1911
Name: Daniel Oldham
Age in 1911: 32
Estimated birth year: abt 1879
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Leicester, Leicestershire, England
Civil Parish: Leicester
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County/Island: Leicestershire
Country: England
Street address: 4 Elon Terrace Berkley St Leicester
Marital Status: Married
Occupation: Boot Maker
Registration district: Leicester
Registration District Number: 407
Sub-registration district: North West Leicester
ED, institution, or vessel: 4
Piece: 19168
Household Members:
Name Age
Daniel Oldham 32
Louisa Oldham 31
Phyllis Oldham 6
Hilda Oldham 2

Oldham Daniel 1880 1931 1931 England & Wales Deaths 1837-2007 Leicester, Leicestershire,

to be sure you need to buy his birth certificate.

For Address on 1904 Marriage posted above.

Chris :)

28 April 1900 - Leicester Chronicle - Leicester, Leicestershire, England

COUNTY POLICE COURT.
summoned for frequenting Willow-street, for the purpose of betting, on the 10th, 11th, and 12th of April. James Oldham (23), shoehand, Burley's lane, was also summoned for a like offence in the Western-road on the same dates. Defendants were fined £5 each, or a month's hard labour.


28 March 1896 - Leicester Chronicle - Leicester, Leicestershire, England

COUNTY PUBLIC OFFICE
...labourers, were charged with a similar offence in Grove-street on the 16th inst., and were each fined 10s., or seven days. Daniel Oldham (16), 57, Burley's-lane, clicker, were also charged with gaming with copper pence in Burley's Lane on the 15th inst.


1901 (Find My Past)
James Oldham Head Married Male 49 1852 Trimmer Of Hosiery Leicester, Leicestershire, England
Harriett Oldham Wife Married Female 46 1855 - Leicester, Leicestershire, England
Charlotte Oldham Daughter Single Female 26 1875 Mender Of Hosiery Leicester, Leicestershire, England
James Oldham Son Single Male 24 1877 Boot Finisher Leicester, Leicestershire, England
Daniel Oldham Son Single Male 22 1879 Boot Clicker Leicester, Leicestershire, England
Joseph Oldham Son Single Male 20 1881 Trimmer Of Hosiery Leicester, Leicestershire, England
Street Burleys Lane (57)
Parish Leicester
County Leicestershire
Municipal ward St Margaret's
Registration district Leicester
Archive reference RG13
Piece number 2988
Folio 6
Page 5


01 March 1902 - Leicester Chronicle - Leicester, Leicestershire, England

Death
Oldham - On February 24th, at 57, Burley's Lane, Harriet, wife of James Oldham, aged 47 years.


(below relating to above perhaps)

OLDHAM Private JAMES 18733 11th Bn. Leicestershire Regiment. Died of wounds 27th March 1918. Age 41. Son of James and Harriet Oldham of Leicester; husband of Mary Ellen Oldham of 4 Hull St. Archdeacon Lane Leicester. T. U. 1460. LEICESTER (WELFORD ROAD) CEMETERY Leicestershire

http://www.britishwargraves.co.uk/page36.htm


http://ww2talk.com/index.php?threads/royal-corps-of-signals-war-grave-photos-for-reference.31239/page-7

(Arthur, Grave photo)


https://www.paradata.org.uk/people/arthur-oldham

OLDHAM, HILDA    
JOHNSON  

GRO Reference: 1908  S Quarter in LEICESTER  Volume 07A  Page 221

OLDHAM, PHYLLIS    
JOHNSON  

GRO Reference: 1905  M Quarter in LEICESTER  Volume 07A  Page 166

??

Louisa Oldham on the 1939 Register

Oldham Household (2 People) 61 Pool Road , Leicester C.B., Leicestershire, England

Louisa Oldham 08 Dec 1879 Unpaid Domestic Duties Widow
Sorry, this record is officially closed.


Louisa Oldham in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1916-2007
Name: Louisa Oldham
Death Age: 75
Birth Date: abt 1879
Registration Date: Dec 1954
Registration district: Leicester
Inferred County: Leicestershire
Volume: 3a
Page: 582

Photo of Arthur's grave can be found here

https://www.twgpp.org/photograph/view/2687650

You can order a copy for £4, or £6 if you want a 'glossy' posted to you. Although normally they are pretty quick, the entry is marked as 'Revist Required', presumably to obtain a clearer image.

Similarly, a photo of James Oldham's grave is here.

https://www.twgpp.org/photograph/view/3069916

the thing that i find strange is that Daniels last daughter on the census was born in 1908 and then there is a 9 year gap when Arthur was born, mum would have been about 47.
Not impossible though

And there could have been stillbirths or miscarriages during that time.

An entry in the newspaper confirms his sisters were Hilda and Phyllis:-

Leicester Daily Mercury - Monday 20 March 1950

OLDHAM. Arthur (L/Cpl) Proud and beautiful memories of mydear husband and daddy of Rita. killed in action March 24 1945 Never forgotten —from loving Wife Rena

OLDHAM Arthur. —In memory our son and brother killed March 24 1945. Goodnight. daddy -Rita from loving Mother Phyllls and Hilda
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- so Daniel and Louisa appear to be the correct parents.

Siblings:

OLDHAM, PHYLLIS (mother's maiden name: JOHNSON)
GRO Reference: 1905 M Quarter in LEICESTER Volume 07A Page 166

OLDHAM, HILDA (mother's maiden name: JOHNSON)
GRO Reference: 1908 S Quarter in LEICESTER Volume 07A Page 221

OLDHAM, HARRY (mother's maiden name: JOHNSON)
GRO Reference: 1906 S Quarter in LEICESTER Volume 07A Page 224

(Harry died 2 months old)

Hilda's marriage:

name(s) Hilda Oldham
Age 21
Birth year 1909
Residence 44 Dunton Street
Father's name(s) Daniel Oldham
Marriage date 22 Mar 1930
Spouse's name(s) Harold Lock
Spouse's age 22
Spouse's residence 28 Bassett Street
Spouse's father's name(s) William Lock
Denomination Anglican
Place Leicester, St Leonard's
County Leicestershire
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1939
Lock Household 44 Dunton Street , Leicester C.B., Leicestershire, England

Harold Lock 09 Feb 1908 Male Pounder Up Shoe Operator Married
Hilda Lock 07 Aug 1908 Female Paid Daily Domestic Married
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Phyllis marriage:

name(s) Phyllis Oldham
Age 21
Birth year 1905
Residence Northumberland ST
Father's name(s) Daniel Oldham
Marriage year 1926
Marriage date 24 Jul 1926
Spouse's name(s) Thomas Herbert Glover
Spouse's age 25
Spouse's residence 13 Albion St Anstey
Spouse's father's name(s) Thomas Muad Glover
Denomination Anglican
Place Leicester, St Margaret's
County Leicestershire
--------------------------------

1939
Glover Household 13 Albion Street , Barrow-upon-Soar R.D., Leicestershire, England

Thomas H Glover 22 Sep 1901 Male Shoe Hand Sole Attached Married
Phyllis Glover 30 Nov 1904 Female Hosiery Machinist Married
Sorry, this record is officially closed.
Robert E Glover 25 Feb 1929 Male At School Single

Thank you everyone for your kind contributions in helping me to find out more about my granddad. I have been on GR a while but this is the first time I have made a thread and you all have been more than helpful. THANKS AGAIN :-)

Hi, would anybody know how my Grandad died.. Arthur Oldham died 24.03.45. Just wondering because he is buried in Venray and it was so close to the end of the war ?