I can't find a birth for the second Hannah (born 12 Oct 1893)
But this is likely her death:
Deaths Mar 1895 Thompson Hannah age 1 Hull 9d 197
Gro lists her age as 17 (months)
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Good going there AQ, below wouldn't surprise me either, lol)
Chris :)
England & Wales, Criminal Registers, 1791-1892 (Ancestry)
Charles Thompson Leicestershire 1892 (unlawfully assaulting for the purpose of a prize fight. Fined £15)
(and no idea on below!)
Mary Ann Thompson Leicestershire 1886
(Bigamy. 3mths. Acquitted)
Edits (no!, would be below)
22 May 1886 - Leicester Chronicle - Leicester, Leicestershire, England
LECESTERSHIRE AND DERBYSHIRE.ASSIZES. Alleged Bigamy at Leicester. Mary Ann Thompson (26) factory - hand, was indicted for feloniously marrying Frederick George Young, at Leicester, on the 8th November, 1880, her husband, James Thompson, being then alive. — Mr. Toller prosecuted. Prisoner ...
Marriages Dec 1880 (>99%) --------------------------------------------------------------- THOMPSON Mary Ann Leicester 7a 412 YOUNG Frederick George Leicester 7a 412
(previous, must have been young!)
Marriages Mar 1873 (>99%) ------------------------------------------------------ Morris Mary Ann Birmingham 6d 45 Thompson James Birmingham 6d 45
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(not relevant as such with query!, but taking the Iliffe's (Variants) back, that 1871 with birthplaces is dodgy!, for a start below, not found Mary A...)
Chris :)
Birth ILIFFE, JOHN (LOWTH) GRO Reference: 1862 M Quarter in WELLS Volume 05C Page 637
Birth ILIFFE, ELIZABETH (LOWTH) GRO Reference: 1864 M Quarter in KIDDERMINSTER Volume 06C Page 293
Birth ILIFFE, SUSANNA (LOWTH) GRO Reference: 1867 M Quarter in SEVENOAKS Volume 02A Page 511
Birth ILIFFE, ANN (LOWETH) GRO Reference: 1865 J Quarter in THRAPSTON Volume 03B Page 196
1871 (Find My Past) William Iliffe Head - Male 38 1833 - Northamptonshire, England (Lab. at Iron Works) Charlotte Iliffe Wife - Female 36 1835 - Northamptonshire, England Mary A Iliffe Daughter - Female 11 1860 - Northamptonshire, England John Iliffe Son - Male 10 1861 - Northamptonshire, England Elizabeth Iliffe Daughter - Female 8 1863 - Northamptonshire, England Ann Iliffe Daughter - Female 7 1864 - Northamptonshire, England Susan Iliffe Daughter - Female 4 1867 - Northamptonshire, England Charlotte Iliffe Daughter - Female 1 1870 - Northamptonshire, England Railway Station Parish Burton Latimer County Northamptonshire Registration district Kettering Archive reference RG10 Piece number 1502 Folio 42 Page 45
Marriages Dec 1856 (>99%) --------------------------------------------- Iliffe William Oundle 3b 457 Louth Charlotte Oundle 3b 457
Birth ILIFF, CHARLOTTE (LOWTH) GRO Reference: 1870 M Quarter in WELLINGBOROUGH Volume 03B Page 163
Northamptonshire Burials Transcription (Find My Past)
First name(s) WILLIAM Last name ILIFFE Birth year 1833 Death year 1893 Age 60 Burial year 1893 Burial day 19 Burial month Jun Residence Burton Latimer Parish BURTON LATIMER
23 June 1893 - Northampton Mercury - Northampton, Northamptonshire
IRTHLINGBOROUGH. An inquest was held at the Bull Inn, on Saturday afternoon, before Mr. J. T. Parker, coroner, inquire into the death of William Iliff, of Burton Latimer, who fell from a straw stack on Thursday week...Henry Buck, manager to the Irthlingborough Iron Ore Company, said deceased worked for him as a labourer, and was 60 years of age...
First name(s) CHARLOTTE Last name ILIFFE Birth year 1836 Death year 1875 Age 39 Burial year 1875 Burial day 21 Burial month Oct Residence Burton Latimer Parish BURTON LATIMER
1881 (Find My Past) New Town, Finedon Street, Burton-Latimer, Kettering William Iliffe Head Widower Male 48 1833 Laborer At Iron Works Leicestershire, England John Iliffe Son Single Male 19 1862 Ag Lab Somerset, England Laura Iliffe Daughter Single Female 12 1869 Scholar Little Harrowden, Northamptonshire, England Charlotte Iliffe Daughter Single Female 11 1870 Scholar Isham, Northamptonshire, England Sarah Iliffe Daughter Single Female 10 1871 Scholar Burton Latimer, Northamptonshire, England William Iliffe Son Single Male 8 1873 Scholar Burton Latimer, Northamptonshire, England Charlotte Hull Housekeeper Married Female 30 1851 Housekeeper Grafton Underwood, Northamptonshire, England Charles Edmund Brains Housekeepers Son Single Male 10 1871 Scholar Grafton Underwood, Northamptonshire, England
1891 (Find My Past) Finedon Street, Burton Latimer, Kettering, William Iliffe Head Married Male 58 1833 Furnace Labourer Leicestershire, England Charlotte E Iliffe Wife Married Female 40 1851 - Northamptonshire, England William Iliffe Son Single Male 17 1874 Pressman Shoe Trade Northamptonshire, England Frank Iliffe Son - Male 9 1882 Scholar Northamptonshire, England Albert Iliffe Son - Male 8 1883 Scholar Burton Latimer, Northamptonshire, England Alice Iliffe Daughter - Female 2 1889 - Burton Latimer, Northamptonshire, England Percy J Iliffe Son - Male 0 1891 - Northamptonshire, England
Marriages Jun 1872 (>99%) ---------------------------------------------------------------- Brains Charlotte Elizabeth Kettering 3b 324b HULL Thomas Kettering 3b 324b
Birth ILIFFE, PERCY JAMES (BRAINES) GRO Reference: 1891 M Quarter in KETTERING Volume 03B Page 200
Birth BRAINES, CHARLES EDMUND - GRO Reference: 1871 M Quarter in KETTERING Volume 03B Page 195
Birth (first wife) ILIFFE, WILLIAM (LOWTH) GRO Reference: 1873 J Quarter in KETTERING Volume 03B Page 180
County Northamptonshire Place Polebrook Church name All Saints Register type Parish Register Register entry number 237 Baptism date 07 May 1832 Person forename Charlotte Person abode Polebrook Father forename Thomas Father surname LOWTH Father occupation Laborer Mother forename Mary
County Northamptonshire Place Polebrook Church name All Saints Register type Parish Register Register entry number 48 Marriage date 17 Dec 1827 Groom forename Thomas Groom surname LOUTH Groom condition bachelor Bride forename Mary Bride surname NEGUS Bride condition spinster Witness Sarah NEGUS Witness Edmund NEGUS Register note She signs X.
Burial County Northamptonshire Place Polebrook Church name All Saints Register type Parish Register Register entry number 156 Burial date 13 Mar 1835 Person age 43 Burial person forename Thomas Burial person surname LOWTH Burial person abode Polebrook
Burial County Northamptonshire Place Burton Latimer Church name St Mary the Virgin Register type Unspecified Register entry number 572 Burial date 1 Aug 1891 Person age 20 Burial person forename Charles Edmund Burial person surname BRAINES Burial person abode Burton Latimer
https://www.freereg.org.uk/
(1841 Charlotte Louth, Oundle Workhouse. 1851 Charlotte Lowth, Servant, Aylesbury, Bucks.)
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This looks like the family in 1861- Mary born Glamorgan:
Name: Mary A Iliffe Age: 4/12 Estimated birth year: abt 1860 Relation: Daughter Father's name: William Iliffe Mother's name: Charlotte Iliffe Gender: Female Where born: Llangefelach, Glamorgan, Wales Civil Parish or Township: Llangyfelach Ecclesiastical parish: Clydach St John County/Island: Glamorgan Country: Wales Registration district: Swansea Sub-registration district: Llandilotalybont ED, institution, or vessel: 1 Household schedule number: 69
Piece: 4095 Folio: 10 Page Number: 15 Household Members: Name Age William Iliffe 28 Southampton Charlotte Iliffe 26 Southampton Harriet Iliffe 3 Southampton Mary A Iliffe 4/12 Glamorgan --------------------------------------
Children baptised Woodford by Thrapston
Name: Harriet Iliffe Baptism Date: 31 Dec 1865 Baptism Place: Woodford, Northamptonshire, England Parish as it Appears: Woodford Register Type: Bishops Transcripts Father: William Iliffe Mother: Charlotte Iliffe
Name: Mary Ann Iliffe Baptism Date: 31 Dec 1865 Baptism Place: Woodford by Thrapston, Northamptonshire, England Parish as it Appears: Woodford Register Type: Parish Registers Father: William Iliffe Mother: Charlotte Iliffe
Also baptisms for children John & Elizabeth on the same day ---------------------
ILIFFE, HARRIET mmn: LOWTH GRO Reference: 1857 S Quarter in WATFORD UNION Volume 03A Page 269
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(well done 1861 AQ, I'd seen below earlier when looking)
ILIFFE, HARRIET (LOWTH) GRO Reference: 1857 S Quarter in WATFORD UNION Volume 03A Page 269
(Southampton?, lol, if above is her!)
Chris :)
Edits (just see you have found Birth too)
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Yes, sorry- added afterwards. Still not seeing Mary's birth though.
Off out now- will pop back later :-)
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(not seeing on GRO yet!)
Chris :)
Births Mar 1861 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------- ILIFE Mary Ann Swansea 11a 455
Edits (no wonder not seen on 1861 FMP, lol)
William Stiffe Clydach Village, Llangafelach, Swansea, Glamorganshire
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Well found Chris- that must be it!
So on the 1911 census she's telling the truth when she says her birth place is Wales!
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In the 1901 census William Thompson was 14 born Hull so the family must have been in Hull 1887 living with his mother Mary Ann who is now married to Frank Booth 1901
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I don't think the bigamist is our Mary Ann as she would have had her daughter Alice in 1879 and probably pregnant with Harry born 1881!
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(no, Bigamy didn't relate Margy, just an item which was seen!)
Chris :)
All very puzzling!, this 'Marriage'!.
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