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3 Aug 2017 16:33 |
(well just trying to make that easier to read!)...
(although I'm not sure on reference 'dame family' and 'Wright Family Tree', and how they relate, or where this all is!) (if Cambs. think I better get the 'pill bottle' out ready, lol)
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I have both certificates for Henry / Harry Blunt Thompson his name on these is Harry Blunt Thompson father down as Charles Blunt Thompson
list of Charles and Mary Ann's children as follows out of a bible I have.
Alice born Oct 24th 1879/ Henry 15th Feb 1881/ John march 29th 1882/ William 8th may 1883/ William 14th april 1884/ Elizabeth 10th Aug 1885/ William 24th Dec 1886/ Charles 23rd Feb 1888/ Banner 13 June 1889/ Mary Ann 17 Jan 1891/ John 2nd Aug 1892/ Hannah Oct 12th 1893 / Emily 13th April 1895/ Hannah 12th March / George 7th July 1896 / Fred Booth 1900
also have a print out from ancestry for a Wright family tree
dame family William is at the top it's so small he is either 1810 or 22 not sure wife's name can't make out but I think she married again as next to her is Shearsmith
I think Booth hope this helps it is of use
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3 Aug 2017 13:33 |
I have both certificates for Henry / Harry Blunt Thompson his name on these is Harry Blunt Thompson father down as Charles Blunt Thompson list of Charles and Mary Ann's children as follows out of a bible I have. Alice born Oct 24th 1879 /Henry 15th Feb 1881/Johnmarch 29th1882/William 8th may 1883/William 14th april1884/Elizabeth 10th Aug 1885/William24th Dec 1886/Charles 23rd Feb 1888/Banner 13 June 1889/Mary Ann 17 Jan 1891 /John 2nd Aug 1892/Hannah Oct 12th 1893 /Emily 13th April 1895/Hannah 12th March /George 7th July 1896 /Fred Booth 1900 also have a print out from ancestry for a Wright family tree dame family William is at the top it's so small he is either 1810 or 22 not sure wife's name can't make out but I think she married again as next to her is Shearsmith I think Booth hope this helps it is of use
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3 Aug 2017 07:41 |
(as said earlier, Fen a big area, Whittlesey, not far from Northants.)
(Another possible below)
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1851 (Find My Past) William Blunt Head Married Male 36 1815 Inn Keeper Whittlesey, Cambridgeshire, England Alice Blunt Wife Married Female 37 1814 - Whittlesey, Cambridgeshire, England William Blunt Son - Male 11 1840 - March, Cambridgeshire, England Thomas Blunt Son - Male 10 1841 - March, Cambridgeshire, England George Blunt Son - Male 9 1842 - March, Cambridgeshire, England Alice Blunt Daughter - Female 7 1844 - March, Cambridgeshire, England Charles Blunt Son - Male 6 1845 - March, Cambridgeshire, England Elizabeth Blunt Daughter - Female 3 1848 - March, Cambridgeshire, England John Blunt Son - Male 2 1849 - Whittlesey, Cambridgeshire, England House name (Horse Shoes) Parish Whittlesey County Cambridgeshire Registration district Whittlesey Archive reference HO107 Piece number 1765 Folio 244 Page 30
Marriages Jun 1839 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------- BLUNT William Whittlesey 14 189 WATSON Alice Whittlesey 14 189
Birth BLUNT, CHARLES (WATSON) GRO Reference: 1844 S Quarter in NORTH WITCHFORD UNION Volume 14 Page 125
https://www.cfhs.org.uk/searchsd.cfm
(Cambridgeshire Baptisms/Burials 1801/1837)
Baptism Subject BLUNT William Year 1814 Relationship s. of William & Alice Place Whittlesey, St.M
Baptism Subject BLUNT William Year 1814 Relationship s. of Thomas & Rebecca Place Whittlesey, St.M
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3 Aug 2017 07:03 |
So these look to be some of the births- Just putting these for my own reference. I'm at work today, but will take a look later.
Do you have any of the children's marriage certificates or birth certificates? Where is it listed that Charles BLUNT Thompson is their father?
Births:
THOMPSON, WILLIAM mmn: ILIFFE GRO Reference: 1883 J Quarter in SCULCOATES Volume 09D Page 182 (died Sculcoates 1883- 4 mths old)
THOMPSON, WILLIAM mmn: ILIFFE GRO Reference: 1884 J Quarter in SCULCOATES Volume 09D Page 178 (died Sculcoates 1885- 9 mths old)
THOMPSON, ELIZABETH mmn: ILIFFE GRO Reference: 1885 S Quarter in SCULCOATES Volume 09D Page 181
THOMPSON, WILLIAM mmn: ILIFFE GRO Reference: 1887 M Quarter in SCULCOATES Volume 09D Page 164
THOMPSON, HANNAH mmn: ILIFFE GRO Reference: 1889 S Quarter in HULL Volume 09D Page 261 (died 1890)
THOMPSON, JOHN mmn: ILIFFE GRO Reference: 1892 S Quarter in HULL Volume 09D Page 314
THOMPSON, EMILY mmn: ILIFFE GRO Reference: 1895 J Quarter in HULL Volume 09D Page 289
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3 Aug 2017 07:01 |
eh!...confusing here!...
"someone killed a policeman" (who?, Surname Blunt?, was this in Cambs?)
"William was Father of Charles" (would that be a William Blunt then?)
Taken from a Bible, are there no dates?...
Chris :)
(if Charles Death around 1900 as you say, and was Hull area, should perhaps be on below)
http://www.yorkshirebmd.org.uk/
Edits (not 1891 one (Mar. qtr.) as Census taken 5th April, he is on it)
? Deaths Jun 1897 (>99%) --------------------------------------------------------- Thompson Charles 47 Hull 9d 164 Thompson Charles 43 Sculcoates 9d 116
Yorkshire Death indexes for the years: 1897
THOMPSON Charles 43 Drypool Hull DRY/34/395 THOMPSON Charles 47 Myton Hull MYT/147/162
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2 Aug 2017 22:52 |
George Brewer replied · 6 Replies · 41 mins .
Margy Melles
Margy Melles I think it's gone through but if not a lot is correct My dad Harry Thompson born 1908 in Hull hi dad Henry Blunt Thompson born 1881 marries Beatrice McWilliam she dies he then marries Lilian Moore born north Frodingham married 1910 his farther Charles Blunt Thompson 1850 marries Mary Ann Iliffe 1860 Charles born Cambridge Mary Ann born Burton Latimer Northamptonshire children's names listed in a bible Alice\Henry \John\William\William\Elizabeth\William \Charles\Hanner\Mary Ann\John\Hannah\Emily\Hannah\George thanks everyone for your help also the death seems right 1933 maybe a marrIage may turn up soon William is Charles father don't know mother's name
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2 Aug 2017 22:08 |
Soun ds it Mary Ann's death thanks for the information and that's Mary Ann not wynn
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2 Aug 2017 21:54 |
:-):-)this is what I have my dad Harry Thompson born 1908 his dadHenry \HarryBlunt Thompson born 1881 marriesLilian Moore Charles Blunt Thompson born 1850 marries Mary Ann Iliffe born 1860Burton Larimer Northamptonshire Charles born Cambridge Lilian born north Frodingham Charles dies around 1900 Mary Ann marries Frank Booth1901children Alice\Henry\William\William\Elizabeth\William\Charles\Hanner\Mary Ann\ Jhon\Hannah\EmilyHannah\George\ allThompson then some Booths I don't know if this is true and maybe linked to the Blunt name was told they had to change the name as someone killed a policeman thanks to everyone for your help hopefully will get a marrIage for Charles and Mary Wynn
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2 Aug 2017 07:13 |
Hull Daily Mail - Monday 12 January 1931
BOOTH- January 10th at 70 Osborne Street. Frank, beloved husband of Mary Ann Booth, aged 72. Interred Hedon Road Cemetery, Tuesday 1pm
Hull Daily Mail - Friday 23 June 1933
BOOTH.—In loving memory of my dear mother, Mary Ann, died June 23rd 1931; and father, died Jan. 10th, 1931.—Not forgotten. —George, Doris, and grandson.
BOOTH. —In loving memory of our dear mother, Mary Ann Booth, died June 23rd, 1931 : also our dear father, Frank, died Jan. 10th 1931. Remembered always. —From the family. -----------------------------------------------
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2 Aug 2017 06:27 |
(probably not below!, but Fen area (near Peterborough) not far from Northants. County)
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England, Births & Baptisms 1538-1975 Transcription (Find My Past)
First name(s) Charles Last name Blunt Gender Male Birth year 1850 Baptism year 1858 Baptism date 1858 Baptism age 8 YEARS Residence Coates, Cambridgeshire, England Place Coates County Cambridgeshire Father's first name(s) James Father's last name Blunt Mother's first name(s) Alice
1851 (Find My Past) James Blunt Head Married Male 31 1820 Victualer Whittlesey, Cambridgeshire, England Alice Blunt Wife Married Female 32 1819 - Whittlesey, Cambridgeshire, England Ellen Blunt Daughter - Female 3 1848 - Whittlesey, Cambridgeshire, England Charles Blunt Son - Male 1 1850 - Whittlesey, Cambridgeshire, England William Speechly Wife's Brother Unmarried Male 25 1826 Cordwainer (Master) Whittlesey, Cambridgeshire, England Mary Fountain Servant - Female 14 1837 - Whittlesey, Cambridgeshire, England House name Eastrea Parish Whittlesey County Cambridgeshire Registration district Whittlesey Archive reference HO107 Piece number 1765 Folio 183 Page 2
(But, him below, by looks of t!)
1871 (Find My Past) Charles Blunt Head - Male 21 1850 - Cambridgeshire, England (Eastrea) Bricklaying Lab.) Martha A Blunt Wife - Female 22 1849 - Cambridgeshire, England Alice E Blunt Daughter - Female 0 1871 - Northamptonshire, England Street Pipe Lane Parish St John the Baptist City Peterborough County Northamptonshire Registration district Peterborough Archive reference RG10 Piece number 1517 Folio 36 Page 18
Marriages Jun 1870 (>99%) ----------------------------------------------- Blunt Charles N. Witchford 3b 921 Fuller Martha Ann N. Witchford 3b 921
(that Daughter Marriage)
County Northamptonshire Place Peterborough Church name St Mary Register type Parish Register Register entry number 447 Marriage date 30 Jun 1894 Groom forename William Smith Groom surname BAKER Groom age 22 Groom condition bachelor Groom abode St Johns Street Groom occupation Fitter Bride forename Alice Elizabeth Bride surname BLUNT Bride age 23 Bride condition spinster Bride abode St Marys Street Bride occupation Servant Groom father forename John Groom father surname BAKER Groom father occupation Plasterer Bride father forename Charles Bride father surname BLUNT Bride father occupation Labourer Witness William SHAW Witness Kate BAKER Register note Witness 1 signed with his x mark
https://www.freereg.org.uk/
(thrown in also!)
UK, Railway Employment Records, 1833-1956 (Ancestry)
Chas Thorman (Thomson?) Age 21 Birth Date: abt 1849 Residence Date: 16 Jun 1870 Company: London and North Western Description: AR series registers 1869 - 1870 (last Employer, Geo. Barker, Farmer, Mansfield, Notts.)
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1 Aug 2017 19:30 |
(awaits George, lol)
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1 Aug 2017 19:22 |
Nope- did wonder about this one:
THOMPSON, ALICE mmn:THOMPSON GRO Reference: 1878 D Quarter in NORTHAMPTON UNION Volume 03B Page 59
But if George has details from certificates, maybe he can share the details. Until we know where his information has come from, it's a bit of a guessing game.
Alice might be in the index under Thompson -mmn Iliffe or under surname Iliffe, but I can imagine Iliffe could be mistranscribed quite easily!
I'm done for today- got an early start tomorrow, but I'll take a look in the afternoon.
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1 Aug 2017 19:10 |
Has Alice Birth been found?...(apologies if above somewhere!)
(1881 says Burton Latimer, 1891 says Rugby)
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1 Aug 2017 19:04 |
I wonder where George's friend got the name Charles Blunt Thompson.
George, was it from Alice's marriage?
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1 Aug 2017 17:51 |
Did wonder the same 'Blunt' theory...
Chris :)
(Birthplace 'Fen', not giving a lot away, big area that covers Cambs. lol!)
(and looking for Mary Ann Iliffe (variants) Birth, Mother Maiden name Louth/Lowth (variants)
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1 Aug 2017 09:45 |
This needs some serious sorting. If the Henry in 1911 posted by Sylvia is the same Henry/ Harry, then this looks to be his marriage:
Marriages Sep 1910 Moore Lilian Hull 9d 534 Thompson Harry B Hull 9d 534
and Children births:
THOMPSON, HARRY mmn: MOORE GRO Reference: 1908 D Quarter in HULL Volume 09D Page 282
THOMPSON, CHARLES mmn:MOORE GRO Reference: 1911 J Quarter in HULL Volume 09D Page 289 -------------------------
But I wonder if he'd been married before:
Marriages Dec 1905 GLEW Lily Hull 9d 485 McWILLIAMS Beatrice Alice Hull 9d 485 NEALE Charles Hull 9d 485 S THOMPSON Harry Blunt Hull 9d 485
Death of first wife: Name: Beatrice Alice Thompson Estimated birth year: abt 1887 Registration Year: 1906 Registration Quarter: Jan-Feb-Mar Age at Death: 19 Registration district: Hull Inferred County: Yorkshire East Riding Volume: 9d Page: 163
So- where does the 'Blunt' come from- could this have been Charles surname?
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1 Aug 2017 08:54 |
Same family 1911
Name: Mary Ann Booth Age in 1911: 50 Estimated birth year: abt 1861 Relation to Head: Wife Gender: Female >>>>>>>Birth Place: Wales Civil Parish: Holy Trinity and St Mary Search Photos: Search for 'Holy Trinity and St Mary' in the UK City, Town and Village Photos collection County/Island: Yorkshire-East Riding Country: England Street address: 35 Lower Union St Hull Marital Status: Married Occupation: Dress In Ker Registration district: Hull Registration District Number: 522 Sub-registration district: Humber ED, institution, or vessel: 18 Piece: 28767 Household Members: Name Age Frank Booth 51 Mary Ann Booth 50 Mary Ann Thompson 20 John Thompson 18 Emily Thompson 16 George Thompson 14 Fred Booth 11 Fanny Booth 8
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1 Aug 2017 08:32 |
Did Mary marry again?:
1901:
Name: Mary A Booth Age: 42 Estimated birth year: abt 1859 Relation to Head: Wife Gender: Female Spouse: Frank Booth Birth Place: Burton Latimer, Northamptonshire, England Civil Parish: Holy Trinity St Mary Ecclesiastical parish: Holy Trinity County/Island: Yorkshire Registration district: Hull Sub-registration district: Humber ED, institution, or vessel: 31 Piece: 4500 Folio: 121 Page Number: 8 Household schedule number: 58
Name Age Frank Booth 41 Mary A Booth 42 William Thompson 14 son-in-law Mary Ann Thompson 10 daughter-in-law John Thompson 9 son-in-law Emily Thompson 6 daughter-in-law George Thompson 4 son-in-law Florie Booth 14 daughter Frank Booth 12 son Ernest Booth 9 son Fred Booth 1 son -------------------------------------
Marriages Sep 1901 BOOTH Frank Hull 9d 515 ELLIS Grace Hull 9d 515 Hall Thomas William Hull 9d 515 THOMPSON Mary Ann Hull 9d 515
birth: BOOTH, ELSIE mmn: ILIFFE GRO Reference: 1899 M Quarter in HULL Volume 09D Page 258 BOOTH, FREDERICK mmn: ILIFFE GRO Reference: 1900 J Quarter in HULL Volume 09D Page 270 BOOTH, FANNY mmn: ILIFFE GRO Reference: 1902 S Quarter in HULL Volume 09D Page 276
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1 Aug 2017 07:59 |
Possible Births- must be more than one couple:
THOMPSON, GEORGE mmn: ILIFFE GRO Reference: 1877 J Quarter in LEICESTER Volume 07A Page 296
THOMPSON, WILLIAM mmn: ILIFF GRO Reference: 1877 J Quarter in BURTON UPON TRENT Volume 06B Page 419
THOMPSON, HARRY LEONARD mmn: ILIFF GRO Reference: 1881 J Quarter in BURTON UPON TRENT Volume 06B Page 417
THOMPSON, WILLIAM mmn: ILIFFE GRO Reference: 1883 J Quarter in SCULCOATES Volume 09D Page 182
THOMPSON, WILLIAM mmn: ILIFFE GRO Reference: 1884 J Quarter in SCULCOATES Volume 09D Page 178
THOMPSON, WILLIAM HENRY mmn: ILIFFE GRO Reference: 1885 S Quarter in LEICESTER Volume 07A Page 256
THOMPSON, ELIZABETH mmn: ILIFFE GRO Reference: 1885 S Quarter in SCULCOATES Volume 09D Page 181
THOMPSON, CATHERINE EDITH mmn: ILIFFE GRO Reference: 1886 J Quarter in BLABY Volume 07A Page 52
THOMPSON, WILLIAM mmn: ILIFFE GRO Reference: 1887 M Quarter in SCULCOATES Volume 09D Page 164
THOMPSON, ANNIE mmn: ILIFFE GRO Reference: 1889 M Quarter in LEICESTER Volume 07A Page 282
THOMPSON, HANNAH mmn: ILIFFE GRO Reference: 1889 S Quarter in HULL Volume 09D Page 261
THOMPSON, JOHN mmn: ILIFFE GRO Reference: 1892 S Quarter in HULL Volume 09D Page 314
THOMPSON, EMILY mmn: ILIFFE GRO Reference: 1895 J Quarter in HULL Volume 09D Page 289 ----------------------------------
Also this possible marriage: Marriages Mar 1876 Brindley Mary Burton 6b 432 Fox Thomas Burton 6b 432 Iliff Mary Ann Burton 6b 432 <<<<<<<<<<<< THOMPSON William Burton 6b 432<<<<<<<<<<<<<
But this would appear to be this couple 1891:
Name: Mary A Thompson Age: 48 Estimated birth year: abt 1843 Relation: Wife Spouse's Name: William Thompson Gender: Female Where born: Uppingham, Rutland, England Civil Parish: Horninglow Ecclesiastical parish: Holy Trinity County/Island: Staffordshire Registration district: Burton Upon Trent ED, institution, or vessel: 35 Piece: 2205 Folio: 76 Page Number: 12 Household Members: Name Age William Thompson 50 Mary A Thompson 48 William Thompson 14 Emma Thompson 12 Harry Thompson 10 Kate Thompson 5 ---------------------------------------
So the above birth reg for Harry is not the Henry we are looking for.
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1 Aug 2017 07:02 |
(could be Shirley, out today, so having to go!, hope something turns up, lol)
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