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29 Jul 2017 23:27 |
Thanks for all that information Tiggit. I will look at all the dates but it will take me some time.
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29 Jul 2017 16:05 |
Possible baptism for Hannah recorded as Anna
First name(s) Anna Last name Colley Birth year - Baptism year 1862 Baptism date 12 Oct 1862 Baptism place Helmsley Denomination Anglican Father's first name(s) Jemmison Mother's first name(s) Jane County Yorkshire (North Riding) Country England Archive North Yorkshire County Record Office Archive reference PR/HEL 1/10 Page 108 Record set Yorkshire Baptisms Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records Subcategory Births & baptisms Collections from England, Great Britain
Possibly Hannah Colley's parents marriage??
First name(s) Jamison Last name Colley Age 22 Birth year 1831 Residence Helmsley Marriage year 1853 Marriage date 03 Dec 1853 Marriage place Helmsley Spouse's first name(s) Jane Spouse's last name Slater Spouse's age 23 Spouse's residence Helmsley Father's first name(s) - Spouse's father's first name(s) - County Yorkshire (North Riding) Country England Archive North Yorkshire County Record Office Archive reference N-PR-HEL1-15 Page 162 Record set Yorkshire Marriages Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records Subcategory Marriages & divorces Collections from England, Great Britain
1861 census: (father recorded as James)
Pockley Village, Pockley, Helmsley, Yorkshire, England
James Colley Head Married Male 30 1831 Agricultural Labourer Nawton, Yorkshire, England
Jane Colley Wife Married Female 31 1830 - Rosedale, Yorkshire, England
Annes Colley Daughter - Female 8 1853 Scholar Wombleton, Yorkshire, England
Mary Colley Daughter - Female 7 1854 Scholar Pockley, Yorkshire, England
Sarah Jane Colley Daughter - Female 4 1857 Scholar Pockley, Yorkshire, England
John Colley Son - Male 1 1860 - Pockley, Yorkshire, England
Ann Pearson Lodger - Female 62 1799 - Yorkshire, England
1871 census:
Village, Pockley, Helmsley, Yorkshire, England
James Colley Head - Male 39 1832 - Ag Lab Nawton Yorkshire, England
Jane Colley Wife - Female 41 1830 - Rosedale Yorkshire, England
Sarah J Colley Daughter - Female 14 1857 - Yorkshire, England
John Colley Son - Male 11 1860 - Yorkshire, England
Hannah Colley Daughter - Female 8 1863 - Yorkshire, England
Charlotte Colley Daughter - Female 4 1867 - Yorkshire, England
Eliza Colley Daughter - Female 2 1869 - Yorkshire, England
1881 census:
Heppy Head, Dale-Town, Helmsley, Yorkshire, England
Jammeison Colley Head Married Male 49 1832 Farmer Pockley, Yorkshire, England
Jane Colley Wife Married Female 51 1830 Farmers Wife Rosedale, Yorkshire, England
Eliza Colley Daughter Single Female 12 1869 Scholar Pockley, Yorkshire, England
George H Colley Son Single Male 7 1874 Scholar Pockley, Yorkshire, England
Ada Colley Daughter Single Female 5 1876 Child Pockley, Yorkshire, England
Mary M Wright Servant Single Female 24 1857 Gen Servant Domestic Kepwick, Yorkshire, England
Possible death for Jane Colley (nee Slater):
Deaths Dec 1888 Colley Jane Ages 60 Northallerton 9d 394
Jameson Colley remarried in 1890:
Marriages Sep 1890 BRECKON Mary Northallerton 9d 972 Colley Jameson Northallerton 9d 97<<<<<<<<<<<<<< Jobling Jane Northallerton 9d 972 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<< METCALFE Robert Northallerton 9d 972
1891 census Jameson with 2nd wifeJane and his youngest daughter Ada
1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription Farm Old Carr Grange, Kirby Sigston, Northallerton, Yorkshire, England
Jameison Colley Head Married Male 59 1832 Farmer Yorkshire, England
Jane Colley Wife Married Female 47 1844 - Durham, England
Ada Colley Daughter Single Female 15 1876 - Pockley, Yorkshire, England
Possible death for Jameson Colley:
Deaths Jun 1900 Colley Jameson Aged 69 Northallerton 9d 447
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29 Jul 2017 14:27 |
Perhaps ???
Birth reg:
CARTER, ANNIE ELIZA Mother's maiden name COLLEY GRO Reference: 1889 D Quarter in HELMSLEY Volume 09D Page 434
Baptism:
First name(s) Annie Eliza Last name Carter Birth year - Baptism year 1889 Baptism date 08 Dec 1889 Baptism place Hawnby Denomination Anglican Father's first name(s) William Mother's first name(s) Hannah County Yorkshire (North Riding) Country England Archive North Yorkshire County Record Office Archive reference PR/HAY 1/6 Page 25 Record set Yorkshire Baptisms Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records Subcategory Births & baptisms Collections from England, Great Britain
Marriage for parents:
First name(s) William Last name Carter Age 37 Birth year 1848 Residence Hawnby Marriage year 1885 Marriage date 18 Jul 1885 Marriage place Hawnby Spouse's first name(s) Hannah Spouse's last name Colley Spouse's age 22 Spouse's residence Hawnby Father's first name(s) Edmund Father's last name Carter Spouse's father's first name(s) Jemison Spouse's father's last name Colley County Yorkshire (North Riding) Country England Archive North Yorkshire County Record Office Archive reference PR/HAY 1/9 Page 119 Record set Yorkshire Marriages Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records Subcategory Marriages & divorces
Annie Eliza in 1891??
Shop, Jack Row, Hawnby, Helmsley, Yorkshire, England
William Carter Head Married Male 42 1849 Shop Keeper Grocer Yorkshire, England
Hannah Carter Wife Married Female 28 1863 - Yorkshire, England
Mary Jane Carter Daughter - Female 4 1887 - Yorkshire, England
Jammeison Wm Carter Son - Male 2 1889 - Yorkshire, England
Annie Eliza Carter Daughter - Female 1 1890 - Yorkshire, England<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Death for William Carter:
Deaths Jun 1899 Carter William Ages 50 Helmsley 9d 277
The in 1901 census:
Mill House, Hawnby & Scattered Houses, Hawnby, Helmsley, Yorkshire, England
Hannah Carter Head Widow Female 38 1863 Retail Grocer Pockley, Yorkshire, England
Mary Carter Daughter Single Female 14 1887 - Kirby Sigston, Yorkshire, England
William Carter Son Single Male 12 1889 - Hawnby, Yorkshire, England
Annie Carter Daughter Single Female 11 1890 - Hawnby, Yorkshire, England
Then in 1911 census living in MIDDLESBOROUGH (where Annie married Francis the same year)
209 Newport Road Middlesbrough, Middlesbrough, Yorkshire, England
Hannah Carter Head Widow Female Dressmaker 48 1863 Yorks Pockley
Annie Carter Daughter Single Female Assisting In Business 21 1890 Yorks Hawnby
Mary Jackson Visitor Widow Female Dressmaker 71 1840 Yorks Wombleton
Herbert Fostill Boarder Married Male Railway Porter 39 1872 Yorks Foxholes
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28 Jul 2017 15:02 |
I knew Francis was a master carpenter and had worked for Waring And Gillow at Lancaster but didn't know about the Royal Train. All very interesting.
Still sorting the dates out but thank you all for your input.
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28 Jul 2017 12:33 |
Another possible:
Name: Annie Elizabeth Carter Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1890 Registration district: Mullingar Birth Country: Ireland Volume: 3 Page: 240 FHL Film Number: 101063
EDIT: Not this one- she was born in March
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28 Jul 2017 12:29 |
AG- That's her death in 1979:
England & Wales, National Probate Calendar
WILSON, Annie Eliza of 6 Lymm Avenue Lancaster died 15 February 1979 Probate Liverpool 11 April ÂŁ13746
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28 Jul 2017 12:23 |
So - options for her birth - none in Middlesbrough in 1889:
Births Mar 1889 (>99%) Carter Annie Elizabeth Ecclesall B. 9c 375
Births Dec 1889 (>99%) Carter Annie Eliza Helmsley 9d 434 Carter Annie Elizabeth Dartford 2a 450 Carter Annie Ellen Epping 4a 298
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28 Jul 2017 12:18 |
If the DOB given in 1939 is correct, Annie can't be the 1895 Annie whose birth I posted earlier.
Francis died in Lancaster:
Francis S Wilson in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1916-2007 Name: Francis S Wilson Birth Date: abt 1887 Date of Registration: Dec 1967 Age at Death: 80 Registration district: Lancaster Inferred County: Lancashire Volume: 10c Page: 668
I wonder if this is Annie's death, with the month wrong? (Or maybe the month's wrong in 1939):
Annie Elizabeth Wilson in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1916-2007 Name: Annie Elizabeth Wilson Birth Date: 17 Nov 1889 Date of Registration: Mar 1979 Age at Death: 89 Registration district: Lancaster Inferred County: Lancashire Volume: 40 Page: 1999
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28 Jul 2017 12:17 |
I don't know the date of the arrival into US, but as Belgium was invaded 10 May 1940, it could be they were escaping but I don't think there would be a direct route to England?
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28 Jul 2017 11:48 |
Lucie from Ostend according to engagement annoucement:
Lancaster Guardian - Friday 07 March 1947
WILSON- VANDENBOSCH. The engagement is announced between S/Sgt. Reg. Wilson. 6 Lymm Avenue, Lancaster, and Lucie Vandenbosch of Ostend. -----------------------------
Lancaster Guardian - Friday 19 September 1947
WILSON—VANDENBOSCH: St. Luke's Skerton. by Rev. Moss, September 13th, Frank R. Wilson. Avenue, to Lucie Vandenbosch, of Ostend.
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28 Jul 2017 11:45 |
Lancaster Guardian - Friday 29 November 1946
LANCASTER EXPERTS TO THE FORE In Birmingham, work on the Royal train nearing completion. In about three weeks time it is expected that the job will be complete and the specialists who have been working on it can return to their homes. Returning home to Lancaster will be a contingent of employees from Waring and Gillows who have been responsible for all the woodwork in the principal rooms of seven coaches. At the Lancaster factory the planning and general designing has been in the hands of Mr. Frank Wilson, of 6, Lymm Avenue Scale Hail Lancaster, who for the past three months has been paying regular visits to Birmingham to supervise the work....
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Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it
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28 Jul 2017 11:40 |
Wilson Household (3 People) 6 Lymm Avenue , Lancaster M.B., Lancashire, England
First name(s) Last name(s) DOB Occupation Frances S Wilson 23 Sep 1887 Cabinet Maker (Asst Manager) Annie E Wilson 17 Mar 1889 Unpaid Domestic Duties Sorry, this record is officially closed. Check if you can open a closed record.
possibly Nora as cant find her on the 1839 reg or a marriage
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28 Jul 2017 10:06 |
1939 register (sorry I don't have access):
Wilson Household Lancaster M.B., Lancashire, England Frances S Wilson 1887 Annie E Wilson 1889 1 more person who is officially closed
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Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it
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28 Jul 2017 09:50 |
Births Dec 1914 Wilson Nora Carter Lancaster 8e 1186
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ArgyllGran
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28 Jul 2017 09:40 |
EDIT:
This may be wrong, given DOB in 1939, posted later.
??? (But would have been 16 at marriage.)
Births Jun 1895 (>99%) Carter Annie Elizabeth Middlesbro' 9d 562
~Wild guess - not an unusual name:
Annie Elizabeth Wilson in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1916-2007 Name: Annie Elizabeth Wilson Birth Date: 15 Jun 1895 Date of Registration: Dec 1977 Age at Death: 82 Registration district: Nuneaton Inferred County: Warwickshire Volume: 31 Page: 0105
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28 Jul 2017 09:37 |
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Francis S Wilson in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Marriage Index, 1837-1915 Name: Francis S Wilson Registration Year: 1911 Registration Quarter: Oct-Nov-Dec Registration district: Middlesbrough Inferred County: Yorkshire North Riding Volume: 9d Page: 1243 Records on Page: Name Annie E Carter <<<<<<<<<<<<< ??? Florence Hellyer Harry Leng Francis S Wilson
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28 Jul 2017 08:43 |
Frank Reginald Wilson was born in Lancaster. Lancashire in 1924. His father was Francis Samuel Wilson and his mother nee Carter but can't find a marriage.
Reg as he was know had 2 sisters. Norah 1914 and Eileen 1919, both born in Lancaster. Eileen died aged 15 in 1934 after being involved in a motor accident.
Maybe someone would be kind enough to look for the marriage. Thank you.
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Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it
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28 Jul 2017 07:07 |
Well the marriage cert will give her age and fathers name which may help
Apart from the daughters birth ,now found, what other info are you looking for ?
:-)
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Chris Ho :)
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28 Jul 2017 07:05 |
Reference...
Chris :)
Lancashire Marriage indexes for the years: 1947
WILSON Frank Reginald VANDERBOSCH Lucie Rose Vanden Lancaster, Skerton, St Luke
http://www.lancashirebmd.org.uk/index.php
Edits (also same (Surname) Van Den Bos Family on that Passenger Record)
Nicolass Gisjbertus Van den (43 Male) Commerce Leuntje Meuldyk Van den (43 Female)
Carle Van den (6 Female)
Hetty Van den (14 Female)
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27 Jul 2017 23:42 |
Thank you Kathleen. It could well be her. Certainly Dianne is right. Makes you wonder why Lucie would come from American to England especially when she originated from Holland. If she is the right one she must have only been about 17 when she married Reg. as he was known. She must have come with her parents.
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