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27 Jul 2017 02:36 |
I have a problem identifying my grandfather. My supposed great grandfather Thomas Charles Ewbank was the father of Ernest Charles Ewbank born 25/2/1876 (birth certificate), who seems to have morphed into Ernest Lewis Ewbank, definitely my grandfather, born about 1879, and who died in Alexandria in 1918. There is no more mention of Ernest Charles in our family tree. I suspect that Ernest Lewis Ewbank was actually the son of Emily Lewis, Thomas Charles' second wife Emily Lewis, m. 1885. Which would mean, of course, that I am really a "Lewis". Can anyone throw any light on this?
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Chris Ho :)
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27 Jul 2017 06:39 |
References...
Chris :)
EWBANK, ERNEST CHARLES (BARNES) GRO Reference: 1876 J Quarter in ST GILES Volume 01B Page 623
Marriages Dec 1854 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------- Barns Sarah Ann Pancras 1b 43 Ewbank Thomas Charles St Pancras 1b 43
First Name: Ernest Lewis Last Name: EWBANK Date of Death: 03/04/1918 Lived/Born In: Regent's Park Rank: Private Unit: Royal Army Service Corps 906Coy
http://www.everymanremembered.org/stories/?story=39037
(A 1st cousin to my husband, never known but not forgotton. Ernest Charles Lewis Ewbank was born in 1876 in St Giles, London to Thomas Charles and Sarah Ann Ewbank. Prior to enlisting, Ernest was a taxi cab driver. He married Maud Louisa Foakes in 1903 and they had 6 children. Ernest gave his life on 3 April 1918, the 8th birthday of his son Edward.)
All London, England, Church of England Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921 (Ancestry)
Ernest Lewis Ewbank abt 1880 6 Dec 1904 (1903) Maud Louisa Foakes St Mary Magdalene, St Pancras (Father, Thomas Ewbank (Deceased)
Thomas Charles Ewbank 19 Oct 1854 Sarah Ann Barns Parish Chapel, St Pancras (Father, George Ewbank (Dead)
Thomas Ewbank abt 1837 27 Apr 1885 Emily Lewis St George, Bloomsbury (Widower. Father, George Ewbank (Deceased) occ. Carpenter
Edits (below has some Burials)
https://www.deceasedonline.com/servlet/GSDOSearch
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ArgyllGran
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27 Jul 2017 11:12 |
Is this the family in 1891, with Emily calling herself Ewbank prior to marriage?
Ernest Ewbank in the 1891 England Census Name: Ernest Ewbank Age: 15 Estimated birth year: abt 1876 Relation: Son Father's name: Thomas Ewbank Mother's name: Emily Ewbank Gender: Male Where born: St Giles, Middlesex, England Civil Parish: Bloomsbury St George Ecclesiastical parish: Bloomsbury St George County/Island: London Country: England Street address: Registration district: St Giles ED, institution, or vessel: 7 Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 209 Folio: 9 Page Number: 13 Household Members: Name Age Thomas Ewbank 56 - plasterer Emily Ewbank 55 Ernest Ewbank 15 - son, plasterer's boy Kate Ewbank 16 - step-daughter
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27 Jul 2017 11:16 |
ArgyllGran,
The marriage was in 1885 so Thomas & Emily were already married by 1891 census.
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27 Jul 2017 11:18 |
On that 1891 census Kate is recorded as Stepdaughter but Ernest is recorded as SON so looks like he was definately Thomas Ewbank's son born Ernest Charles.
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ArgyllGran
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27 Jul 2017 11:26 |
Oh, yes, sorry - senior moment!
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27 Jul 2017 11:27 |
Possibly Emily in 1881 census:
1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription 21, Marchmont Place, St Giles in the Fields and St George Bloomsbury, St Giles, London, England
Frederick Lewis Head Married Male 50 1831 Pearl Cutter Goldsmith Paddington, Middlesex, England
Emily Lewis Wife Married Female 43 1838 - Middlesex,
Ellen Lewis Daughter Single Female 16 1865 Feather Maker Paddington, Middlesex, England
Frederick Lewis Son Single Male 11 1870 Scholar Middlesex, England
Minnie Lewis Daughter Single Female 8 1873 Scholar Middlesex, England
Kate Lewis Daughter Single Female 6 1875 Scholar Middlesex, England
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ArgyllGran
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27 Jul 2017 11:29 |
Thomas Ewbank in the 1881 England Census Name: Thomas Ewbank Age: 44 Estimated birth year: abt 1837 Relationship to Head: Head Spouse: Ann Ewbank Gender: Male Where born: St Pancras Civil Parish: St Andrews County/Island: London Country: England Street address: 21 Eagle St Marital Status: Married Occupation: Builder (Plaster) Registration district: Holborn Sub registration district: 1D ED, institution, or vessel: 9 Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 340 Folio: 9 Page Number: 15 Household Members: Name Age Thomas Ewbank 44 Ann Ewbank 45 George Ewbank 16 Ernest Ewbank 5
Emily would be the "mother" he knew best, possibly from a very young age, so he may have wanted to acknowledge her by taking her name.
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27 Jul 2017 11:35 |
If the right Emily Lewis???
Possible birth reg's for Minnie and Kate:
LEWIS, CATHERINE mother's maiden name YARNTON GRO Reference: 1875 J Quarter in ST GILES Volume 01B Page 567
LEWIS, MINNIE mother's maiden name YARNTON GRO Reference: 1872 D Quarter in ST. GILES Volume 01B Page 522
Possible Marriage:
Marriages Sep 1858 Lewis Frederick John St Giles 1b 591 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<< Mahoney James St Giles 1b 591 McCarthy Mary Ann St Giles 1b 591 Yaronton Emily Susan St Giles 1b 591 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
There is this possible death:
Deaths Jun 1885 Lewis Frederick 54 Kensington 1a 89
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ArgyllGran
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27 Jul 2017 11:37 |
LEWIS, ELLEN mms YARNTON GRO Reference: 1866 M Quarter in ST.GILES Volume 01B Page 483
LEWIS, CATHERINE mms YARNTON GRO Reference: 1875 J Quarter in ST GILES Volume 01B Page 567
LEWIS, FREDERICK WILLIAM mms YARNTON GRO Reference: 1870 M Quarter in ST GILES Volume 01B Page 529
I don't see a Yarnton /Lewis marriage. EDIT: Oh yes, you've found it, Tiggit.
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Edward
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27 Jul 2017 11:39 |
Thank you Chris. I am Edward Ernest Ewbank. None of the above is new to me except the name Ernest Charles Lewis Ewbank. I have a copy of the birth certificate of Ernest Charles Ewbank (1876) to Thomas Charles Ewbank, and census records of Ernest Lewis Ewbank (b~1878/79 by deduction of his age at the time of census), and the marriage certificate of Ernest Lewis Ewbank (to my grandmother) in 1903 with stated age of 24. I have not seen any document showing the name Ernest Charles Lewis Ewbank.. However, I do know that Ernest Lewis was my grandfather.
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ArgyllGran
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27 Jul 2017 11:53 |
Thomas had yet another wife by 1901. Ernest's age is edging nearer to 1879!
Ernest Ewbank in the 1901 England Census Name: Ernest Ewbank Age: 24 Estimated birth year: abt 1877 Relation to Head: Son Gender: Male Father: Thomas Ewbank Mother: Kate Ewbank Birth Place: St Giles, London, England Civil Parish: St Pancras Ecclesiastical parish: St Pancras County/Island: London Country: England Registration district: St Pancras Sub-registration district: Gray's Inn Lane ED, institution, or vessel: 03 Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 139 Folio: 100 Page Number: 31 Household schedule number: 217 Household Members: Name Age Thomas Ewbank 63 - plasterer Kate Ewbank 39 Ernest Ewbank 24 - plasterer George Jenkins 15 - grandson
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27 Jul 2017 11:57 |
Hi Edward,
Quote from above posted by ArgyallGran
Emily would be the "mother" he knew best, possibly from a very young age, so he may have wanted to acknowledge her by taking her name.
seems likely, does the occupation of Ernest Lewis Ewbank on the marriage certificate in 1903 match with the 1901 census and that of his dad Thomas?
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27 Jul 2017 12:01 |
Possible death for Emily??
Deaths Mar 1900 ) EWBANK Emily 61 Pancras 1b 60
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Edward
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27 Jul 2017 12:19 |
Yes, occupation plasterer on both counts.
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Edward
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27 Jul 2017 12:29 |
Thank you for all responses. I am satisfied now that Ernest Charles and Ernest Lewis are one and the same, especially after seeing the Lewis family link. Edward E Ewbank
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