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Alexander Macdonald, Stationmaster at Edderton

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rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 26 Jul 2017 21:50

I would think they would be working class but remember stone masons would be a skilled trade and often people would describe their occupation as Mason Journeyman as he would have served an apprenticeship.

Stationmaster, I'm not so sure about. I have an ancestor who had a career change from a hand loom weaver to Stationmaster.

alviegal

alviegal Report 26 Jul 2017 21:46


1871 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Coul Hill, Alness, Ross and Cromarty, Scotland

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Household Members
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
John Munro Head Widower Male 72 1799 Mason Ross & Cromarty, Scotland

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 26 Jul 2017 21:42

Can't see Christian / Christy's death.
Not in Inverness-shire, anyway.

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 26 Jul 2017 21:40

Middle-class, I would think. Certainly a station-master would be.

Anything less would be just "Labourer", probably.

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 26 Jul 2017 21:39

Annie McDonald ms Munro married in 1864 and we know from the marriage registration her mother was deceased. Her mother is on the 1861 census. So one of these deaths will be hers.


Surname Forename Age at death Year Ref RD Name Image View
MUNRO
ANNE
68
1864
057/ 21
Alness

MUNRO
ANN
61
1863
078/ 1
Nigg (Ross and Cromarty)

MUNRO
ANN
63
1863
060/ 12
Contin

MUNRO
ANNE
64
1863
057/ 9
Alness


Probably the last one as the age and district fit with the 1861 census. If you register with Scotlandspeople and buy credits, you can look at / download the death registration which will give you the name of her parents if the informant knew the details.

Janet

Janet Report 26 Jul 2017 21:35

Wow guys, that is fantastic, thank you.

Rootgatherer: I think you may be spot on the mark for Annie's death in Fochabers in 1910. I have a death certificate for her son, John, who was Town Clerk in Rhodesia and contracted TB and came to recuperate at his father's house in Fochabers. John died on the 30th August 1919, and on the death certificate his father (Alexander ex Stationmaster) is mentioned and his mother (Annie Munro) who is noted as deceased. If I have the correct census records for them in 1901, she was still alive then at 60 years of age. So it fits that she could have died in 1910 at Fochabers.

I am not familiar at all with Scottish certificates, I am a real beginner, but I am learning fast!! :) I am most grateful to you for sending that certificate.

Out of curiosity, knowing the strict social structure of the time, would the professions of stone mason and station master have been considered a working mans trade or middle class like teachers and the like?

Thank you so much you two, you have been a great blessing with your help.

Janet

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 26 Jul 2017 21:34

Alexander's father's death, judging by his YOB on censuses:

MCDONALD
ALEXANDER
74
1859
101/ 9
Kiltarlity

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 26 Jul 2017 21:25

I'll PM the certificate to you.

Mason would be a stone mason. Only Annie's father was alive at the time of the marriage.

I'm not sure how familiar you are with Scottish certificates but they do give more info than English ones. The index for female deaths can be searched using both married and maiden surnames. Scottish marriage and death certificates name parents including the mother's maiden surnames if known.

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 26 Jul 2017 21:20

Mason will mean stonemason, Janet.

It appears Annie's father was a mason, too. (From 1861 census.)

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 26 Jul 2017 21:19

Possible death for Annie, other surname MacDonald

Assuming they were living in Fochabers in 1910, I think it may come under Speymouth registration district.



MUNRO
ANNIE
72
1910
143/ 1
Speymouth

Janet

Janet Report 26 Jul 2017 21:18

Thank you so much Argyllgran & rootgatherer for this new insight. I do wish these ancestors of mine had been a little more creative with giving their kids names other than their own, it would have made things so much easier!!

Rootgatherer: "Had a look at the marriage certificate. You're spot on ArgyllGran with Alexander's parents. Father Alexander was a Mason. Both parents deceased".
When you had a look at Alexander's parents on the marriage certificate, was his mother called Christy? Did it mention when his parents died? And when it says Mason, do you think they meant mason as in brick layer or Free Mason?

Thanks for your insight,
Janet

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 26 Jul 2017 21:08

Donald Munro
in the 1841 Scotland Census
Name: Donald Munro
Age: 1
Estimated birth year: abt 1840
Gender: Male
Where born: Ross and Cromarty, Scotland
Civil Parish: Alness
County: Ross and Cromarty
Address: Hill Of Coul <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Parish Number: 57
Household Members:
Name Age
Ann Munro 40
Catherine Munro 10
Ann Munro 6
Bella Munro 4
Donald Munro 1
Margaret Fraser 60

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 26 Jul 2017 20:58

???

John Munro
in the 1861 Scotland Census
Name: John Munro
Age: 63
Estimated birth year: abt 1798
Relationship: Head
Spouse's name : Anne Munro
Gender: Male
Where born: Obsdale, Rossshire
Registration Number: 57
Registration district: Alness
Civil Parish: Alness
County: Ross and Cromarty
Address: Coulhill <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Occupation: Mason <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
ED: 4
Household schedule number: 16
LINE: 1
Roll: CSSCT1861_8
Household Members:
Name Age
John Munro 63
Anne Munro 62
Isabella Munro 24
Donald Munro 21

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 26 Jul 2017 20:54

Possibly Annie's birth, in that case - although a few years out from the marriage cert:

MUNRO
ANN
JOHN MUNRO/ANN MUNRO
0
21/02/1835
057/
20 70
Alness
Possible siblings of Annie ??

MUNRO
CATHERINE
JOHN MUNRO/ANN MUNRO
0
29/06/1830
057/
20 55
Alness


MUNRO
JOHN
JOHN MUNRO/ANN MUNRO
0
09/12/1831
057/
20 62
Alness


MUNRO
ISABELL
JOHN MUNRO/ANN MUNRO
0
15/07/1833
057/
20 67
Alness


MUNRO
ISABELL
JOHN MUNRO/ANN MUNRO
0
09/12/1836
057/
20 74
Alness


MUNRO
DONALD
JOHN MUNRO/ANN MUNRO
0
30/11/1838
057/
20 80
Alness

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 26 Jul 2017 20:21

Had a look at the marriage certificate. You're spot on ArgyllGran with Alexander's parents. Father Alexander was a Mason. Both parents deceased.

Ann's parents were John Munro, Mason and Ann Munro ms Munro (deceased). Both witnesses were named Donald Munro (very helpful!).

Alexander's abode is only given as Inverness and Ann's Alness.

Alexander aged 24 and Annie 26.

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 26 Jul 2017 19:10

Maybe?

Age at death Year Ref RD Name Image View
MCDONALD
ANN
75
1915
081/ 24
Rosskeen


Other surname of above is Munro


EDIT

Not that one, her married name was Munro and maiden name McDonald

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 25 Jul 2017 21:57

Alexander's parents' marriage??


MCDONALD
ALEXANDER
CHRISTIAN SUTHERLAND/
07/01/1830
038/
30 30
Latheron


Actually, I'm not at all sure about that. It's the only marriage on SP with the right names -
BUT Alexander's sister Ann was born c1827, and Margaret (listed in 1841 census above) was born 1820.

Here's Margaret's birth:

MCDONALD
MARGARET
ALEXANDER MCDONALD/CHRISTIAN SUTHERLAND FR323 (FR323)
0
10/06/1820
101/
20 4
Kiltarlity


Also the marriage is in Caithness, not Inverness-shire.

Eringobragh1916

Eringobragh1916 Report 25 Jul 2017 20:32

Edderton Station just in case you haven't seen it.




https://www.railscot.co.uk/locations/E/Edderton/

safc

safc Report 25 Jul 2017 20:14

janet

you will need

scotlandspeople.gov.uk

it is a pay per view site
for marriage and births

Janet

Janet Report 25 Jul 2017 19:27

Thank you so very much Andy, Abby, Argyll Gran and everyone else who has replied with leads. I am so excited to finally have something to go on. I have found some genealogy sites to be so confusing and gone around in circles for month - I can't believe you found some information so quickly. I think your records may have hit it on the nail.

If any of you can give any direction on how I can move to the next level of finding Annie & Alexanders respective parents bmd details, I would be indebted to you.