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Lynnedee

Lynnedee Report 17 Jul 2017 10:34

I am looking for Charles Phillip Baker born in 1877 in Halifax, Yorkshire. I found him at Ardingley College, Cuckfield, Sussex aged 13 in 1891. His parents and siblings were living in Hammersmith at that time. Where was he after - what was his job. He married marie turner in 1900 but where did he go to then?
I did find a Charles Baker who died in Halifax in 1924 but not sure if its the same one as I don't think marie and the family moved there. Any information would be good - I have tried the 'hot matches' but non of them ever do

Andrew

Andrew Report 17 Jul 2017 10:52

Census 1901

Name: Charles P Baker
Age: 24
Estimated birth year: abt 1877
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Male
Spouse: Marie Baker
Birth Place: Halifax, Yorkshire, England
Civil Parish: Croydon
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Ecclesiastical parish: Thornton Heath St Paul
Town: Croydon
County/Island: Surrey
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

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Registration district: Croydon
Sub-registration district: Croydon
ED, institution, or vessel: 74
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 646
Folio: 187
Page Number: 51
Household schedule number: 357
Household Members:
Name Age
Charles P Baker 24 Occ Insurance Agent
Marie Baker 25
Vera P Baker 3/12

Andy

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 17 Jul 2017 10:54

Why not Haifax he was born there

Andrew

Andrew Report 17 Jul 2017 10:54

1911 census

Name: Charles Baker
Age in 1911: 33
Estimated birth year: abt 1878
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Halifax, Yorkshire, England
Civil Parish: Croydon
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County/Island: Surrey
Country: England
Street address: 76 Burlington Rd, Thornton Heath, Surrey
Occupation: Furnishing Salesman
Registration district: Croydon
Registration District Number: 39
Sub-registration district: North Croydon
ED, institution, or vessel: 30
Household schedule number: 46
Piece: 3397
Household Members:
Name Age
Charles Baker 33
Mary Baker 35
Vera Phyllis Baker 10
Edna Adah Baker 8
Charles Roelogg Baker 6
Dora Muriel Baker 5
Philip Ernest Baker 2

Married 11 years, 5 children born all living


Andy

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 17 Jul 2017 10:57

Here they are in 1911 with lots more children

1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
76 Burlington Road Thornton Heath Surrey, Croydon, Surrey, England
Charles Baker Head - Male Furnishing Salesman 33 1878 Halifax Yorks
Mary Baker Wife Married Female - 35 1876 Clapham S W
Vera Phyllis Baker Daughter - Female - 10 1901 Thornton Heath Surrey
Edna Adah Baker Daughter - Female School 8 1903 Tulse Hill S E
Charles Roeloff Baker Son - Male School 6 1905 Chiswick W
Dora Muriel Baker Daughter - Female School 5 1906 Streatham S W
Philip Ernest Baker Son - Male - 2 1909 Streatham S W

Andrew

Andrew Report 17 Jul 2017 10:57

Another possible child after census

Births Dec 1911 (>99%)
Baker Daphne B F Turner Croydon 2a 565

Andy

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 17 Jul 2017 11:07

Wonder on this one. Maybe the enumerator misheard P for E
1939 register


Baker Household (2 People)
38 Tudor Way , Uxbridge U.D., Middlesex, England
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FIRST NAME(S) LAST NAME(S) DOB OCCUPATION
Marie Baker 22 Oct 1875 Unpaid Domestic Duties
Charles E Baker 20 Oct 1877 Clerk-Civil With Raf
Ref: RG101/0940E/015/29 Letter Code: BVAO
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MARIE
Last name BAKER
Gender Female
Birth day -
Birth month -
Birth year 1876
Age 67
Death quarter 2
Death year 1943
District Uxbridge
County Middlesex
Volume 3A
Page 62
Country England
Record set England & Wales Deaths 1837-2007


Age all ties up with 1911 census

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 17 Jul 2017 11:13

Still Charles E though

First name(s) CHARLES E
Last name BAKER
Gender Male
Birth day -
Birth month -
Birth year 1878
Age 71
Death quarter 3
Death year 1949
District Uxbridge
County Middlesex
Volume 5F
Page 80
Country England
Record set England & Wales Deaths 1837-2007
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Deaths & burials
Collections from Great Britain, England
© Findmypast

Maybe the marriage of one of the children will indicate if he was still alive then

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 17 Jul 2017 11:29

1939 reg
Household (4 People)
45 Burmester Road , Wandsworth, London, England
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FIRST NAME(S) LAST NAME(S) DOB OCCUPATION
Daphne B F Scandling (Pocock,Baker) 03 Sep 1911 Book Keeper Typist
Sorry, this record is officially closed. Check if you can open a closed record.
Florence H Armitage 08 Jun 1907 Unpaid Domestic Duties
Thomas R Armitage 09 Aug 1905 Electrician Small Motor
Ref: RG101/0603J/009/22 Letter Code: AXTU
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Daphne B F Scandling
Birth Date: abt 1912
Date of Registration: Mar 1967
Age at Death: 55
Registration district: Bath
Inferred County: Somerset
Volume: 7c
Page: 90

Not seeing the marriage though

First marriage
Marriages Dec 1939
Baker Daphne B F Pocock Wandsworth 1d 1651
Pocock Albert E Baker Wandsworth 1d 1651

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 17 Jul 2017 11:34

Another daughter but doesn't seem to have married

Edna Ada Baker
Birth Date: 6 Oct 1903
Date of Registration: Mar 1994
Age at Death: 90
Registration district: Bristol
Inferred County: Gloucestershire
Register Number: D17C
District and Subdistrict: 3011D
Entry Number: 125

Maybe not as the birth year is wrong


Name: Edna Adah Baker
Registration Year: 1902
Registration Quarter: Oct-Nov-Dec
Registration district: Lambeth
Parishes for this Registration District: View Ecclesiastical Parishes associated with this Registration District
Inferred County: London
Volume: 1d
Page: 493

Lynnedee

Lynnedee Report 17 Jul 2017 12:54

Thanks to both of you - sorry delay in replying. The one piece of information I have is that marie re-married and didn't actually die until she was at the end of her 90's - in fact I think she nearly made it to 100.
So not sure about the Uxbrige information.
I have found out that marie remarried in 1928
Thanks for the look-ups.

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 17 Jul 2017 12:54

This is the probate of the Charles who died in 1949


Charles Edwin Baker in the England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations), 1858-1966, 1973-1995
Name: Charles Edwin Baker
Death Date: 11 Jul 1949
Death Place: Middlesex, England
Probate Date: 19 Sep 1949
Registry: Wakefield

Of 38 Tudor Way, Hillingdon, Middlesex.........at Hillingdon Hospital Uxbridge.

To Violet Laurie Baker.....Spinster

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 17 Jul 2017 12:57

so the 1928 marriage cert should say if she widow of or previously married to

who did she marry as not seeing a 1928 one on freebmd

Lynnedee

Lynnedee Report 17 Jul 2017 13:07

she married Percy Wicks in Lymington not sure if she referred to herself as marie or mary

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 17 Jul 2017 13:17

The marriage was in 1929.......

Marriages Dec 1929 (>99%)
BAKER Marie Wicks Lymington 2b 1695
Wicks Percy Baker Lymington 2b 1695

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 17 Jul 2017 13:18

it was 1929

Marriages Dec 1929
BAKER Marie Wicks Lymington 2b 1695
Wicks Percy Baker Lymington 2b 1695


1939 register
Wicks Household (4 People) Niton Milford Road , Lymington M.B., Hampshire, England

Marie Wicks 20 Nov 1875 Unpaid Domestic Duties
Percy Wicks 28 Nov 1877 Service Royal Navy & Retired Coastguard

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 17 Jul 2017 13:20

Marie Wicks on the 1939 Register

Wicks Household (4 People) Niton Milford Road , Lymington M.B., Hampshire, England

Marie Wicks 20 Nov 1875 Unpaid Domestic Duties
Percy Wicks 28 Nov 1877 Service Royal Navy & Retired Coastguard
Sorry, this record is officially closed.
Sorry, this record is officially closed.


Marie Wicks in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1916-2007
Name: Marie Wicks
Birth Date: 20 Nov 1874
Date of Registration: Dec 1973
Age at Death: 99
Registration district: Exmoor
Inferred County: Somerset
Volume: 7c
Page: 1068

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 17 Jul 2017 13:27

the informant had her birth year one year out

First name(s) MARIE
Last name WICKS
Gender Female
Birth day 20
Birth month 11
Birth year 1874
Age -
Death quarter 4
Death year 1973
District Exmoor
County Devon
Volume 7C
Page 1068
Country England


Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 17 Jul 2017 13:28

think you need the marriage cert for her marital status at the time

Lynnedee

Lynnedee Report 17 Jul 2017 13:55

Thank you again.
On the 1939 Register where it states : Sorry, record officially closed - does that mean the other folk may still be living or just that they may have been out of the country when they died and therefore not registered here?