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1 Jul 2017 08:21 |
I am helping a colleague research Alfred Victor Castle who died in the war in 1916. I found a Albert Victor Castle of the 2nd Battalion ( Royal Fusiliers )died 16th August 1916 at Flanders but was unable to find a Alfred Victor Castle. I have been told he could possibly be the Uncle of my Cecilia Eveline Castle born 1889 at Cardiff died 1st April 1930 in Western Australia,she married Austin George Godfrey Snashall in 1950 at Perth. Her parents were Henry Castle abt 1864 Bowerchalke Wiltshire & Annie Elizabeth Webb born 1864 Cardiff died 1st April 1933 in Perth Western Australia,. They married in 1882 in Aston Warwickshire. I have no other children for Albert Edward Marshall & Cecilia Eveline Castle or Henry Castle & Annie Elizabeth Webb to check if there is a connection Any suggestions of where I can go from here?
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Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it
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1 Jul 2017 08:45 |
how could she have died in 1930 but married in 1950 ??
CASTLE, CECILIA EVELINE CRIDLAND GRO Reference: 1889 D Quarter in CARDIFF Volume 11A Page 357
looks like he is Albert
CASTLE, ALBERT VICTOR CRIDLAND GRO Reference: 1899 M Quarter in WILTON Volume 05A Page 189
so a brother not an uncle
CASTLE, ALBERT VICTOR
Rank: Private Service No: 2128 Date of Death: 29/07/1916 Regiment/Service: Australian Infantry, A.I.F. 28th Bn. Panel Reference: Memorial: VILLERS-BRETONNEUX MEMORIAL
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1 Jul 2017 08:54 |
with Albert Edward Marshal
Name: Cecilia Evelyn Marshall Gender: Female Electoral Year: 1925 Subdistrict: North Perth State: Western Australia District: Perth Country: Australia 8 Moir Street
Name: Albert Edward Marshall Age: 19 Birth Date: 26 Mar 1890 Event Date: 18 Mar 1910 Event Place: Western Australia, Australia Title: Record of Service passed exam to become a railway guard
so had gone to australia before the uk 1911 census albert is a railway guard
Name: Cecilia Evelyn Marshall Gender: Female Electoral Year: 1913 Subdistrict: Hannans State: Western Australia District: Kalgoorlie Country: Australia Residence Address: 366 Piccadilly street Occupation: Home Duties
with Albert Edward occ railway duties
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Chris Ho :)
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1 Jul 2017 09:01 |
Confusing?...
(can't stay but there was below)
Chris :)
Evening Express 30th May 1906
Parents at Sixteen. PRECOCIOUS CARDIFF COUPLE. The, love affairs of a pretty girl and an industrious apprentice came before the stipendiary (Mr. T. W. Lewis) at Cardiff Police-court this afternoon. The children had attained the age of sixteen. They were Cecilia Castle and Albert- Edward Marshall, who is acquiring the art and mystery of a French polisher. Master Marshall earns as much…
http://newspapers.library.wales/view/4163870/4163874/126/
CASTLE, ALBERT EDWARD MARSHALL - GRO Reference: 1906 J Quarter in CARDIFF Volume 11A Page 379
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1 Jul 2017 09:09 |
CASTLE, ALBERT EDWARD MARSHALL - GRO Reference: 1906 J Quarter in CARDIFF Volume 11A Page 379
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Ellen
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1 Jul 2017 09:13 |
Sorry Shirley got my Cecilia's mixed up here she was born 1889, married Albert Edward Marshall in 1911 in Perth died 28 February 1930 Their daughter Cecilia Evelyn born 1924 married Austin George Godfrey Snashall in 1950 she died 8th November 2000. What I really am after is the parents of Albert or Alfred Victor Castle who died in 1916 to see if he connects with my Castles Thank You
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1 Jul 2017 09:39 |
Albert E Marshall
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Name: Albert E Marshall Age in 1901: 11 Estimated birth year: abt 1890 Relation: Son Father: Albert E Marshall Mother: Clara E Marshall Gender: Male Where born: Cardiff, Glamorgan, Wales Civil Parish: St Mary Search Photos: Search for 'St Mary' in the UK City, Town and Village Photos collection Town: Cardiff Ecclesiastical parish: St Dyfrig County/Island: Glamorgan Country: Wales Street address: View image Condition as to marriage: View image Education: View image Employment status: View image Occupation: View image Registration district: Cardiff Sub-registration district: Central Cardiff ED, institution, or vessel: 27 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 256 Piece: 4981 Folio: 113 Page Number: 37 Household Members: Name Age Albert E Marshall 36 Clara E Marshall 31 Albert E Marshall 11 Mary A E Marshall 9 William J Marshall 6 Alfred W Marshall 2
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1 Jul 2017 09:41 |
there is the Albert Castle who is Cecilia s brother as posted above
he hasnt been claimed on the CWGC site maybe because his army records havent survived
when did Cecilia go to Australia and did she go with her parents
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Choccy
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1 Jul 2017 09:42 |
National Archives Australia
http://tinyurl.com/yagwpj6j
Castle Albert Victor : SERN 2128 : POB Wiltshire England : POE Kalgoorlie WA : NOK M Castle AnnieContents rangecirca1914 - circa1920 Series numberB2455 Control symbolCASTLE A V Access statusOpen Barcode3219275
Killed in action - 29th July 1916
NOK - Annie Elizabeth Castle, 35 Havelock Street, Cardiff
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1 Jul 2017 09:47 |
1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
35 Havelock Street Cardiff, Cardiff, Glamorganshire, Wales
Mary Castle Head Widow Female Dressmaker 53 1858 Glormays Cardiff >>>>>>Annie Castle Sister Widow Female Charwoman 48 1863 Glormays Cardiff Cissie Castle Daughter Single Female Cashier 20 1891 Glormays Cardiff Bertie Castle Son Single Male School 12 1899 Glormays Cardiff Albert Castle Son Single Male School 5 1906 Glormays Cardiff Joe Bird Lodger Single Male Carpenter 50 1861 Glormays Cardiff
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Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it
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1 Jul 2017 09:49 |
well done Choccy thats the mum of cecilia too
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Ellen
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1 Jul 2017 09:50 |
That's a very interesting story Chris Ho I just found a son born Albert Edward M ((could this stand for Marshall) Castle 1906 at Cardiff possibly their baby?
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ArgyllGran
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1 Jul 2017 09:56 |
Ellen -
As Shirley has shown, Albert Victor was the brother of Cecilia 1889. But their mother's surname was Cridland, not Webb.
This will be their parents' marriage:
Marriages Dec 1887 (>99%) Castle Harry Cardiff 11a 519 CRIDLAND Annie Cardiff 11a 519
Are you sure you've got the right Annie?
A Cardiff marriage seems much more likely than the Warwickshire one you mentioned. Quite apart from the fact of the mms quoted on GRO!
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1 Jul 2017 09:59 |
Name: Harry Castle Registration Year: 1887 Registration Quarter: Oct-Nov-Dec Registration district: Cardiff Parishes for this Registration District: View Ecclesiastical Parishes associated with this Registration District Inferred County: Glamorgan Volume: 11a Page: 519 Records on Page: Name Harry Castle Annie Cridland
so he married as Harry
Henry Castle
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Name: Henry Castle Age: 16 Estimated birth year: abt 1865 Relationship to Head: Son Father: George Castle Mother: Selina Castle Gender: Male Where born: Bower Chalke, Wiltshire, England Civil Parish: Sixpenny Handley County/Island: Dorset Country: England Street address: Village Chaple Education:
Employment status: View image Occupation: Ag Lab Registration district: Wimborne ED, institution, or vessel: 15 Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 2091 Folio: 63 Page Number: 25 Household Members: Name Age George Castle 51 Selina Castle 50 Henry Castle 16 Frederick Castle 13 Sarah Castle 12 Emily M. Castle 9 Frank Castle 4 (not transcribed)
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ArgyllGran
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1 Jul 2017 10:12 |
I can't see an Annie Cridland in Wales in 1881, although there are a couple of Cridland families in Cardiff.
However, there were a number of Annie Cridlands in various places in 1881, so she could have been anywhere then.
You might need to buy their marriage cert, to see her age and father's name, to help identify her.
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Choccy
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1 Jul 2017 10:14 |
All with mother's maiden name of CRIDLAND
Births Dec 1889 Castle Cecilia Eveline Cardiff 11a 357
Births Dec 1891
Castle Beatrice Mabel Wilton 5a 197
Births Mar 1899
Castle Albert Victor Wilton 5a 189
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Ellen
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1 Jul 2017 10:18 |
Yes I think you are correct Annie Elizabeth Cridland, I originally had that from someone else then thought it was Webb I have corrected my tree again. Thanks everyone, once again you have solved my queries,it is the best site for obtain help Regards Ellen
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1 Jul 2017 10:29 |
How sure are you of Annie's year of birth?
The only Annie Cridland born 1863-5 was born in Kensington:
Births Jun 1864 (>99%) CRIDLAND Annie Kensington 1a 98
But it's not her - that one's still unmarried in 1901:
Annie Cridland in the 1901 England Census Name: Annie Cridland Age: 36 Estimated birth year: abt 1865 Relation to Head: Sister-in-law Gender: Female Birth Place: Kesington, Middlesex, England Civil Parish: Parkstone Ecclesiastical parish: Parkstone St Peter County/Island: Dorset Country: England Street address: Registration district: Poole Sub-registration district: Poole ED, institution, or vessel: 15 Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 1981 Folio: 53 Page Number: 26 Household schedule number: 155 Household Members: Name Age Alfred Mathew Balter 41 Florence Balter 38 Annie Cridland 36 Edith Frances Doney 19
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1 Jul 2017 10:46 |
it may be her birth wasnt registered
you need the marriage cert for her dads name
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1 Jul 2017 10:49 |
1871 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Quay Street, Cardiff (St Mary), Cardiff, Glamorganshire, Wales John M Cridland Head - Male 48 1823 - Gloucestershire, England Elizabeth Cridland Wife - Female 36 1835 - Glamorgan, Wales >>>>Cecelia M Cridland Daughter - Female 13 1858 - Glamorgan, Wales Ellen L Cridland Daughter - Female 11 1860 - Glamorgan, Wales >>>>Elizabeth A Cridland Daughter - Female 7 1864 - Glamorgan, Wales
Did two sisters marry two brothers (or two relatives)?
Wiltshire, England, Church of England Births and Baptisms, 1813-1916
Name: Beatrice Mabel Castle
Baptism Date: 15 Nov 1891
Baptism Place: Ebbesbourne Wake, Wiltshire, England
Parish as it Appears: Ebbesbourne Wake
>>>>Father: John Castle
>>>>Mother Cecilia Mary Castle
GRO
CASTLE, BEATRICE MABEL CRIDLAND GRO Reference: 1891 D Quarter in WILTON Volume 05A Page 197
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