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Alfred Victor Castle Australia

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Ellen

Ellen Report 1 Jul 2017 08:21

I am helping a colleague research Alfred Victor Castle who died in the war in 1916.
I found a Albert Victor Castle of the 2nd Battalion ( Royal Fusiliers )died 16th August 1916 at Flanders but was unable to find a Alfred Victor Castle.
I have been told he could possibly be the Uncle of my Cecilia Eveline Castle born 1889 at Cardiff died 1st April 1930 in Western Australia,she married Austin George Godfrey Snashall in 1950 at Perth.
Her parents were Henry Castle abt 1864 Bowerchalke Wiltshire & Annie Elizabeth Webb born 1864 Cardiff died 1st April 1933 in Perth Western Australia,.
They married in 1882 in Aston Warwickshire. I have no other children for Albert Edward Marshall & Cecilia Eveline Castle or Henry Castle & Annie Elizabeth Webb to check if there is a connection
Any suggestions of where I can go from here?

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 1 Jul 2017 08:45

how could she have died in 1930 but married in 1950 ??

CASTLE, CECILIA EVELINE CRIDLAND
GRO Reference: 1889 D Quarter in CARDIFF Volume 11A Page 357


looks like he is Albert


CASTLE, ALBERT VICTOR CRIDLAND
GRO Reference: 1899 M Quarter in WILTON Volume 05A Page 189

so a brother not an uncle


CASTLE, ALBERT VICTOR

Rank:
Private
Service No:
2128
Date of Death:
29/07/1916
Regiment/Service:
Australian Infantry, A.I.F.

28th Bn.
Panel Reference:

Memorial:
VILLERS-BRETONNEUX MEMORIAL

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 1 Jul 2017 08:54

with Albert Edward Marshal

Name: Cecilia Evelyn Marshall
Gender: Female
Electoral Year: 1925
Subdistrict: North Perth
State: Western Australia
District: Perth
Country: Australia
8 Moir Street


Name: Albert Edward Marshall
Age: 19
Birth Date: 26 Mar 1890
Event Date: 18 Mar 1910
Event Place: Western Australia, Australia
Title: Record of Service passed exam to become a railway guard

so had gone to australia before the uk 1911 census
albert is a railway guard

Name: Cecilia Evelyn Marshall
Gender: Female
Electoral Year: 1913
Subdistrict: Hannans
State: Western Australia
District: Kalgoorlie
Country: Australia
Residence Address: 366 Piccadilly street
Occupation: Home Duties

with Albert Edward occ railway duties

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 1 Jul 2017 09:01

Confusing?...

(can't stay but there was below)

Chris :)

Evening Express 30th May 1906

Parents at Sixteen.
PRECOCIOUS CARDIFF COUPLE. The, love affairs of a pretty girl and an industrious apprentice came before the stipendiary (Mr. T. W. Lewis) at Cardiff Police-court this afternoon. The children had attained the age of sixteen. They were Cecilia Castle and Albert- Edward Marshall, who is acquiring the art and mystery of a French polisher. Master Marshall earns as much…

http://newspapers.library.wales/view/4163870/4163874/126/


CASTLE, ALBERT EDWARD MARSHALL -
GRO Reference: 1906 J Quarter in CARDIFF Volume 11A Page 379

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 1 Jul 2017 09:09

CASTLE, ALBERT EDWARD MARSHALL -
GRO Reference: 1906 J Quarter in CARDIFF Volume 11A Page 379

Ellen

Ellen Report 1 Jul 2017 09:13

Sorry Shirley got my Cecilia's mixed up here she was born 1889, married Albert Edward Marshall in 1911 in Perth died 28 February 1930
Their daughter Cecilia Evelyn born 1924 married Austin George Godfrey Snashall in 1950 she died 8th November 2000.
What I really am after is the parents of Albert or Alfred Victor Castle who died in 1916 to see if he connects with my Castles
Thank You

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 1 Jul 2017 09:39

Albert E Marshall

in the 1901 Wales Census
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Name: Albert E Marshall
Age in 1901: 11
Estimated birth year: abt 1890
Relation: Son
Father: Albert E Marshall
Mother: Clara E Marshall
Gender: Male
Where born: Cardiff, Glamorgan, Wales
Civil Parish: St Mary
Search Photos: Search for 'St Mary' in the UK City, Town and Village Photos collection
Town: Cardiff
Ecclesiastical parish: St Dyfrig
County/Island: Glamorgan
Country: Wales
Street address: View image
Condition as to marriage: View image
Education: View image
Employment status: View image
Occupation: View image
Registration district: Cardiff
Sub-registration district: Central Cardiff
ED, institution, or vessel: 27
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 256
Piece: 4981
Folio: 113
Page Number: 37
Household Members:
Name Age
Albert E Marshall 36
Clara E Marshall 31
Albert E Marshall 11
Mary A E Marshall 9
William J Marshall 6
Alfred W Marshall 2

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 1 Jul 2017 09:41

there is the Albert Castle who is Cecilia s brother as posted above

he hasnt been claimed on the CWGC site maybe because his army records havent survived

when did Cecilia go to Australia and did she go with her parents

Choccy

Choccy Report 1 Jul 2017 09:42


National Archives Australia

http://tinyurl.com/yagwpj6j


Castle Albert Victor : SERN 2128 : POB Wiltshire England :
POE Kalgoorlie WA :
NOK M Castle AnnieContents
rangecirca1914 - circa1920
Series numberB2455
Control symbolCASTLE A V
Access statusOpen
Barcode3219275

Killed in action - 29th July 1916

NOK - Annie Elizabeth Castle, 35 Havelock Street, Cardiff


Choccy

Choccy Report 1 Jul 2017 09:47



1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription

35 Havelock Street Cardiff, Cardiff, Glamorganshire, Wales


Mary Castle Head Widow Female Dressmaker 53 1858 Glormays Cardiff

>>>>>>Annie Castle Sister Widow Female Charwoman 48 1863 Glormays Cardiff

Cissie Castle Daughter Single Female Cashier 20 1891 Glormays Cardiff

Bertie Castle Son Single Male School 12 1899 Glormays Cardiff

Albert Castle Son Single Male School 5 1906 Glormays Cardiff

Joe Bird Lodger Single Male Carpenter 50 1861 Glormays Cardiff

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 1 Jul 2017 09:49

well done Choccy thats the mum of cecilia too

Ellen

Ellen Report 1 Jul 2017 09:50

That's a very interesting story Chris Ho I just found a son born Albert Edward M ((could this stand for Marshall) Castle 1906 at Cardiff possibly their baby?

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 1 Jul 2017 09:56

Ellen -

As Shirley has shown, Albert Victor was the brother of Cecilia 1889.
But their mother's surname was Cridland, not Webb.

This will be their parents' marriage:

Marriages Dec 1887 (>99%)
Castle Harry Cardiff 11a 519
CRIDLAND Annie Cardiff 11a 519

Are you sure you've got the right Annie?


A Cardiff marriage seems much more likely than the Warwickshire one you mentioned. Quite apart from the fact of the mms quoted on GRO!


Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 1 Jul 2017 09:59

Name: Harry Castle
Registration Year: 1887
Registration Quarter: Oct-Nov-Dec
Registration district: Cardiff
Parishes for this Registration District: View Ecclesiastical Parishes associated with this Registration District
Inferred County: Glamorgan
Volume: 11a
Page: 519
Records on Page:
Name
Harry Castle
Annie Cridland

so he married as Harry


Henry Castle

in the 1881 England Census
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Name: Henry Castle
Age: 16
Estimated birth year: abt 1865
Relationship to Head: Son
Father: George Castle
Mother: Selina Castle
Gender: Male
Where born: Bower Chalke, Wiltshire, England
Civil Parish: Sixpenny Handley
County/Island: Dorset
Country: England
Street address: Village Chaple
Education:

Employment status:

View image
Occupation: Ag Lab
Registration district: Wimborne
ED, institution, or vessel: 15
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 2091
Folio: 63
Page Number: 25
Household Members:
Name Age
George Castle 51
Selina Castle 50
Henry Castle 16
Frederick Castle 13
Sarah Castle 12
Emily M. Castle 9
Frank Castle 4
(not transcribed)

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 1 Jul 2017 10:12

I can't see an Annie Cridland in Wales in 1881, although there are a couple of Cridland families in Cardiff.

However, there were a number of Annie Cridlands in various places in 1881, so she could have been anywhere then.

You might need to buy their marriage cert, to see her age and father's name, to help identify her.

Choccy

Choccy Report 1 Jul 2017 10:14

All with mother's maiden name of CRIDLAND


Births Dec 1889

Castle Cecilia Eveline Cardiff 11a 357


Births Dec 1891

Castle Beatrice Mabel Wilton 5a 197


Births Mar 1899

Castle Albert Victor Wilton 5a 189


Ellen

Ellen Report 1 Jul 2017 10:18

Yes I think you are correct Annie Elizabeth Cridland, I originally had that from someone else then thought it was Webb I have corrected my tree again.
Thanks everyone, once again you have solved my queries,it is the best site for obtain help
Regards
Ellen

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 1 Jul 2017 10:29

How sure are you of Annie's year of birth?

The only Annie Cridland born 1863-5 was born in Kensington:

Births Jun 1864 (>99%)
CRIDLAND Annie Kensington 1a 98

But it's not her - that one's still unmarried in 1901:

Annie Cridland
in the 1901 England Census
Name: Annie Cridland
Age: 36
Estimated birth year: abt 1865
Relation to Head: Sister-in-law
Gender: Female
Birth Place: Kesington, Middlesex, England
Civil Parish: Parkstone
Ecclesiastical parish: Parkstone St Peter
County/Island: Dorset
Country: England
Street address:
Registration district: Poole
Sub-registration district: Poole
ED, institution, or vessel: 15
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 1981
Folio: 53
Page Number: 26
Household schedule number: 155
Household Members:
Name Age
Alfred Mathew Balter 41
Florence Balter 38
Annie Cridland 36
Edith Frances Doney 19

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 1 Jul 2017 10:46

it may be her birth wasnt registered

you need the marriage cert for her dads name

Choccy

Choccy Report 1 Jul 2017 10:49



1871 England, Wales & Scotland Census

Quay Street, Cardiff (St Mary), Cardiff, Glamorganshire, Wales

John M Cridland Head - Male 48 1823 - Gloucestershire, England

Elizabeth Cridland Wife - Female 36 1835 - Glamorgan, Wales

>>>>Cecelia M Cridland Daughter - Female 13 1858 - Glamorgan, Wales

Ellen L Cridland Daughter - Female 11 1860 - Glamorgan, Wales

>>>>Elizabeth A Cridland Daughter - Female 7 1864 - Glamorgan, Wales


Did two sisters marry two brothers (or two relatives)?


Wiltshire, England, Church of England Births and Baptisms, 1813-1916

Name: Beatrice Mabel Castle

Baptism Date: 15 Nov 1891

Baptism Place: Ebbesbourne Wake, Wiltshire, England

Parish as it Appears: Ebbesbourne Wake

>>>>Father: John Castle

>>>>Mother Cecilia Mary Castle


GRO

CASTLE, BEATRICE MABEL CRIDLAND

GRO Reference: 1891 D Quarter in WILTON Volume 05A Page 197