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Thomas and Mary were married in Prescot, Liverpool area in 1912. They had two daughters but when were Thomas and Mary born and who were their parents.
I would be grateful of any help.

did Thomas and mary have middle names w ere they born in prescot?

Marriages Dec 1912  
Higginson

 Thomas
 McGuire1267
  
McGuire
 Mary A
 Higginson
 Prescot
 Prescot
 8b

 8b
1267

That's the right marriage but I don't know where they were born. Think Thomas would be born in the Liverpool area but I don't know about .Mary.
There is a Mary Ann born in Prescot 1892 and a Mary Agnes born in Prescot 1893 but I don't know which married Thomas

it will be hard to find when they were born unless you can find their deaths
you will have to send for the marriage cert it will give ages

there are 6 births for Higginson/McGuire marriage in preston so could be their children

The best way is for you to buy the marriage certificate. That will tell you the ages of the Thomas and Mary when they married (or the ages they claimed to be :-D ), the addresses they were living at, the names of their fathers and their occupations, and the names of witnesses may help in tracing them.


The certificate will cost you £9.25, incl. p&p, from GRO

Possible:

1939 register:
Higgenson Household 88 Midwood Street , Widnes M.B., Lancashire, England

Thomas Higgenson 15 Apr 1886 Male Iron Foundry Labourer Heavy Worker Single
Mary Higgenson 10 Dec 1886 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married
John Higgenson 19 May 1917 Male Furnace Man Ferro Alloy Single
Mary Higgenson 26 Mar 1913 Female Incapacitated Single
Closed Record
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John McGuire (widowed) born 1863 living at 92 Midwood Street.
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Births of children on 1939 register possibly fit with:

Births Jun 1913
Higginson Mary McGuire Prescot 8b 1402

Births Jun 1917
Higginson John McGuire Prescot 8b 1201

1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
25, Cross Street, Widnes, Prescot, Lancashire, England

John McGuire Head Married Male 37 1864 Labourer Copper Wks Ireland
Bridget McGuire Wife Married Female 34 1867 - Ireland
John McGuire Son Single Male 15 1886 Labourer Copper Wks Widnes, Lancashire
Mary A McGuire Daughter Single Female 13 1888 - Widnes, Lancashire
Maggie McGuire Daughter Single Female 11 1890 - Widnes, Lancashire,
Joseph T McGuire Son Single Male 9 1892 - Widnes, Lancashire, England
Eddy McGuire Son Single Male 7 1894 - Widnes, Lancashire, England
Agnes McGuire Daughter Single Female 0 1901 - Widnes, Lancashire, England
Mark Coyle Uncle Single Male 50 1851 Labourer Copper Wks Ireland
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Same family 1911:

1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
92 Midwood Street Widnes, Widnes, Lancashire, England

John McGuire Head Married Male Chemical 45 1866 Co Cavan Ireland
John McGuire Son Single Male Chemical 24 1887 Widnes Lankshire
Mary McGuire Daughter Single Female - 20 1891 Widnes Lankshire
Agnes McGuire Daughter Single Female - 9 1902 Widnes Lankshire
Eddy McGuire Son Single Male Clogger 16 1895 Widnes Lankshire
Bridget McGuire Wife Married Female - 44 1867 Co Cavan Ireland

There's no initial on the marriage, but this looks likely for Thomas and family- note same street/ area as Mary's family:

1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
18, Cross Street, Widnes, Prescot, Lancashire, England

John C Higginson Head Married Male 39 1862 Chemical Labourer Frodsham, Cheshire
Charlotte A Higginson Wife Married Female 41 1860 - Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Thomas W Higginson Son Single Male 15 1886 Soap Works Labourer Widnes, Lancashire,
Georgina Higginson Daughter Single Female 13 1888 - Widnes, Lancashire,
Alfred Higginson Son Single Male 11 1890 - Widnes, Lancashire,
Emily E Higginson Daughter Single Female 9 1892 - Widnes, Lancashire, England
Charlotte A Higginson Daughter Single Female 7 1894 - Widnes, Lancashire,
Margaret Higginson Daughter Single Female 4 1897 - Widnes, Lancashire,
John C Higginson Son Single Male 0 1901 - Widnes, Lancashire,
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1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
18 Cross St Widnes, Widnes, Lancashire, England

John Charles Higginson Head Married Male Chemical Labourer 51 1860 Cheshire Frodsham
Charlotte Ann Higginson Wife Married Female - 52 1859 Liverpool Lancs
Thomas William Higginson Son Single Male Chemical Labourer 24 1887 Widnes Lancs
Georgina Higginson Daughter Single Female General Servant Domestic 22 1889 Widnes Lancs
Alfred Higginson Son Single Male Chemical Labourer 19 1892 Widnes Lancs
Margaret Higginson Daughter Single Female - 12 1899 Widnes Lancs
John Charles Higginson Son Single Male - 10 1901 Widnes Lancs
John Mc Guire Higginson Grandson - Male - 5 1906 Widnes Lancs

Looks like Mary's brother, John, married Thomas sister, Georgina:

Marriages Mar 1918
Higginson Georgina McGuire Prescot 8b 1058
McGuire John Higginson Prescot 8b 1058
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1939
McGuire Household 98 Greenway Road , Widnes M.B., Lancashire,

John McGuire 01 May 1885 Male Chemical Labourer (Heav Wo Married
Georgina McGuire 17 Oct 1889 Female Unapid Domestic Du? Married
Patrick J McGuire 01 Aug 1922 Male Biel Po?ter Single
Winifred Rutledge (Mcguire) 19 Aug 1923 Female Clerk In W S Offi Single
Mary Ridgeway (Mcguire) 16 Jan 1925 Female Domestic Servant Single
George H McGuire 07 Oct 1911 Male Teellow Melter Married

Looks like a 'possible' additional child born before their marriage?

HIGGINSON, GEORGE MCGUIRE - Order
GRO Reference: 1911 D Quarter in PRESCOT Volume 08B Page 1380

Dea x

There is also the John Mcguire Higginson on the 1911:

First name(s) JOHN MCGURIE
Last name HIGGINSON
Birth year 1906
Birth quarter 1
District Prescot
County Lancashire
Volume 8B Page 760

I suspect his mother was Georgina- although initial of mother was given as E on the record below, the address was the same as Georgina's was in 1939:

Royal Artillery attestations 1883-1942
First name(s) John Mcguire
Last name Higginson
Age 18
Birth year 1905
Birth place Widnes
Attestation year 1923
Service number 750216
Mother: E Mcg 98 Greenway Road, Widnes

I think George Mcguire Higginson born 1911 was also possibly a son of Georgina- he's on the 1939 register with Georgina (listed as George H Mcguire)

Thank you all for your input. Such a lot to look at and make a decision. First of all I'm going to apply for the marriage certificate of Thomas and Mary so I know what their fathers names are and then I can look at the above.
Patsy.

Patsy- what were the names of their daughters?

Mary born 1913 Prescot Liverpool and Margaret 1914 also born in Prescot.
No marriage for Mary but Margaret married Joseph Goulbourne 03/09/1938.

Using http://www.lancashirebmd.org.uk
Lancashire Marriage indexes for the years: 1912
Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference
HIGGINSON Thomas MCGUIRE Mary A Prescot Register Office or Registrar Attended Prescot R/96/14

[Pre-1898, only C of E, jews and quakers (and registrara) were authorized to keep official marr rego's.
After 1898, non-conformist could apply to be authorized, but the RCs chose not to aplly until 1980-ish.
So if this were a non-conformist marr in a church not authorized to keep an official marr reggo, the registrar would have to attend with his official marr rego for the couple to sign to complete the marr ceremony.
There is nothing to prevent the church from keeping its own record of such a marr, and this record could well contain difft info from the official marr rego entry. E.g., RC marr records typically latinize the names of the participants.]


Using https://www.freebmd.org.uk/cgi/search.pl
Births Jun 1913 (>99%)
Higginson Mary McGuire Prescot 8b 1402

Births Jun 1914 (>99%)
HIGGINSON Margaret McGuire Prescot 8b 1447

Births Jun 1917 (>99%)
Higginson John McGuire Prescot 8b 1201

Births Mar 1920 (>99%)
Higginson Agnes McGuire Prescot 8b 1791

Births Jun 1924 (>99%)
HIGGINSON Winifred McGUIRE Prescot 8b 1295

Births Mar 1926 (>99%)
Higginson Thomas McGuire Prescot 8b 1231



Deaths Jun 1920 (>99%)
HIGGINSON Agnes 0 Prescot 8b 784

HIGGINSON, AGNES 4 Order
GRO Reference: 1920 J Quarter in PRESCOT Volume 08B Page 784
[The new GRO index gives the age at death for infants under 2 y.o. in months]


I wonder if Tom & Mary's siblings also wed:

Marriages Mar 1918 (>99%)
Higginson Georgina McGuire Prescot 8b 1058
McGuire John Higginson Prescot 8b 1058