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Hi Pauline,

Ann/Annie Keen born JAS 1842 Manchester (mothers name Smith) was the daughter of William Mossop Keen and Harriet Smith. Harriet Smith was originally married to William Senior and they had two children named Harriet and William (cannot find them). I believe Ann/Annie married a Franklin and hence the name of her daughter Emily Edith Franklin born AMJ 1872 Manchester (mothers name Keen). The FindMyPast Manchester Cemetery Records show a William Mossop Keen as grave owner of grave 2365 at Cheetham Hill Wesleyan Cemetery. Ann/Annie had an elder brother John, and a younger brother William who died 1845 (of Teething??) and buried in the above grave. So assuming a Wesleyan connection, maybe Ann/Annie married in a Wesleyan Church and that's maybe why we can find no record...

Best wishes,
Paul.

Thanks Paul
I was just trying to find out about Ralph Mosoph, as he appears to have no birth. There is some mystery about him, which the family tried to find, but sadly not found.
P

Hi Pauline,
I've done some previous research on this family and others as I'm distantly related to the Parks. Just checking my notes, I found this info:

1894 FreeBMD M Search: AMJ 1894 Salford 8d 167 an Emily Edith Franklin M John Watson at Salford Register Office or Registrar Attended (Confirmed on Lancs BMD).

Her son William Mosoph was baptized in 1895 as William Watson (Lancs OPC):
1895 Baptism: 16 Oct 1895 Christ Church, Salford, Lancashire, England
William Watson - [Child] of John Watson & Emily Edith
Born: 9 Dec 1889
Abode: 10 Bernsley [Bemsley] St.
Occupation: Labourer
Baptised by: Fred. Knight
Register: Baptisms 1892 - 1898, Page 161, Entry 1286.

I've not yet found how she became a Franklin...

Richard Parks/Park was married in 1860 to Alice Dillicate 1836-1873 and then married? Annie Unknown (marriage not found). Annie died in 1919 and Richard in 1907. So maybe Annie was Annie Franklin? Emily Watson died in 1908.

I have a lot of info on the Delicate/Dillicate family.

I'll take another look into this early next week and see what I find.

Best wishes,
Paul.

Thank you Chris for the reminder. Had lost track of the previous findings!!
Will put all this together if I can , though the real query re Ralph. will remain a mystery I think now.

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1334440?d=asc

(some William on above, relating)

Chris :)

John died as a baby
First name(s) JOHN EDWARD
Last name MOSOPH
Gender Male
Birth day -
Birth month -
Birth year 1878
Age 0
Death quarter 4
Death year 1878
District Manchester
County Lancashire
Volume 8D
Page 234
Country England

good find Mary!

That fits with the 1861 whichs shows Ann with mother Harriat.

Andy

BUT

Name: John Edward Mosoph
Birth Date: 31 May 1878
Baptism Date: 7 Jul 1878
Parish: Manchester, St Mary, St Denys and St George
Father's name: John Mosoph - Warehouseman
Mother's name: Ann Mosoph
Archive Roll: 774


Andy

Ann Keen baptised 24/9/1842 by William Mossop Keen a servant and wife Harriett.
John keen baptised 23/9/1840,

off ancestry.co.uk
William Mossop keen 1814 died 1877 son of John married Harriett Seonion/Senior/Smith dad John Smith in 24/11/1839
Harriett was a widow.

Maryb.

I've had a look at all the Ann/ie Keen marriages I can find in Lancashire 1861-1881 and Richard Park/e/s marriages 1873 -1900. and nothing fits at all. Where the name Mosoph comes from I have no idea - maybe foreign.

All I can suggest at he moment is to purchase the birth cert for John Edward Mosoph posted above and see what info that contains.

Andy

Andy Yes that makes sense Annie Married Richard by 18881 census

Safc any marriage to Mosoph? Please?

I can't see Richard Park and Alice in 1871 at the moment, but there is a death for Alice Park of approx correct age in salford in 1873

Surname First name(s) Age District Vol Page
Deaths Jun 1873 (>99%)
Park Alice 36 Salford 8d 58

Andy

In 1871 Annie is a Vest maker. From the records I've found it would seem her maiden name was Keen.

Possible 1861

She is a Tailoress

Name: Annie Keen
Age: 18
Estimated birth year: 1843
Relation: Daughter
Mother's name: Harriat Keen
Gender: Female
Where born: Manchester, Lancashire, England
Civil Parish: Salford
Ecclesiastical parish: St Stephen
Town: Salford
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

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Registration district: Salford
Sub-registration district: Greengate
ED, institution, or vessel: 5
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 267
Piece: 2911
Folio: 26
Page Number: 45
Household Members:
Name Age
Harriat Keen 54
Annie Keen 18

Andy

Annie Mosoph
England and Wales Census, 1871
Name Annie Mosoph
Event Type Census
Event Date 1871
Event Place Little Bolton, Lancashire, England
Enumeration District 25
Gender Female
Age 28
Marital Status Married
Occupation Vest Maker
Relationship to Head of Household Visitor
Birth Year (Estimated) 1843
Birthplace Manchester, Lancashire
Entry Number 21
Affiliate Image Identifier GBC/1871/3935/0287
Household

Role

Sex

Age

Birthplace
Jane Lees Head F 41 Salford, Lancashire
Robert W Lees Son M 22 Saddleworth, Yorkshire
Elizabeth A W Lees Daughter F 18 Saddleworth, Yorkshire
Annie Mosoph Visitor F 28 Manchester, Lancashire
Citing this Record

"England and Wales Census, 1871", database with images, FamilySearch

Andrew can you find Annie/ int he 1861 census.? I found the 91 census, in which Annie has married Richard Park I am trying to find Annie before her marriage to Mosoph, as she is married? in the 71 you found. What is her occupation in 1871 please? This is a very mysterious family, considering the unusual name!
Thanks

Annie 1871??

Name: Annie Mosoph
Age: 28
Estimated birth year: abt 1843
Relation: Visitor
Gender: Female
Where born: Manchester, Lancashire, England
Civil Parish: Little Bolton
Ecclesiastical parish: St George
Town: Bolton
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Registration district: Bolton
Sub-registration district: Little Bolton
ED, institution, or vessel: 25
Household schedule number: 16
Piece: 3935
Folio: 141
Page Number: 3
Household Members:
Name Age
Jane Lees 41
Robert W Lees 22
Elizabeth A W Lees 18
Annie Mosoph 28 Married

Andy

Try to follow Richard park forwards

1861

Name: Richard Park
Age: 29
Estimated birth year: 1832
Relation: Lodger
Spouse's Name: Alice Park
Gender: Male
Where born: Kendal, Westmorland, England
Civil Parish: Manchester
Ecclesiastical parish: St George
Town: Manchester
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

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Registration district: Manchester
Sub-registration district: St George
ED, institution, or vessel: 7
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 17
Piece: 2956
Folio: 62
Page Number: 4
Household Members:
Name Age
John Swittenham 54
Dinah Swittenham 54
Thomas Swittenham 17
John W Swittenham 15
Mary Swittenham 10
Dinah Swettenham 23
Richard Park 29 Tailor
Patience Park 2/12
Alice Park 23

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
Marriages Jun 1860 (>99%)
Dillicat Alice Liverpool 8b 95
Dillicate Alice Liverpool 8b 95
Parks Richard Liverpool 8b 95


1881

Richard Park 48
Annie Park 38
James W. Park 18
Mary J. Park 10
Emily E. Park 8
Sarah Goodchild 59


Andy

Connected???

MOSOPH, JOHN EDWARD KEEN
GRO Reference: 1878 J Quarter in MANCHESTER Volume 08D Page


Deaths Dec 1878 (>99%)
MOSOPH John Edward 0 Manchester 8d 234


Andy

PARK, THERESA KEEN
GRO Reference: 1882 D Quarter in SALFORD Volume 08D Page 162


Andy

MOSOPH, WILLIAM -
GRO Reference: 1890 M Quarter in SALFORD Volume 08D Page 153

1891 for ref

Name: Emily Moseph
Age: 18
Estimated birth year: abt 1873
Relation: Stepdaughter
Mother's name: Annie Park
Gender: Female
Where born: Manchester, Lancashire, England
Civil Parish: Salford
Ecclesiastical parish: Christchurch
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

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Registration district: Salford
Sub registration district: Regent Road
ED, institution, or vessel: 16
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 3221
Folio: 127
Page Number: 1
Household Members:
Name Age
Richard Park 58
Annie Park 48
Theresa Park 8 Daughter
Emily Moseph 18 Step Daugther
William Moseph 1
James Ross 21 Son in Law
Mary J Ross 20 Daugther
Georgine Graham 24


Andy