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7 Jun 2017 16:46 |
Trying to help a friend trace the Mosoph family William Mosoph b 1889 in salford mother Emily Mosoph B1873 (appears as unmarried 1891 census Emily Mother appears to be Annie Park 1843 Was annie married prior to Richard Park, I believe maybe Mosoph was her married name Can't find a marriage for her Only interested in the Mosoph side Thanks
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7 Jun 2017 17:31 |
MOSOPH, WILLIAM - GRO Reference: 1890 M Quarter in SALFORD Volume 08D Page 153
1891 for ref
Name: Emily Moseph Age: 18 Estimated birth year: abt 1873 Relation: Stepdaughter Mother's name: Annie Park Gender: Female Where born: Manchester, Lancashire, England Civil Parish: Salford Ecclesiastical parish: Christchurch County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Street address:
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Condition as to marriage:
Education:
Employment status: View image Registration district: Salford Sub registration district: Regent Road ED, institution, or vessel: 16 Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 3221 Folio: 127 Page Number: 1 Household Members: Name Age Richard Park 58 Annie Park 48 Theresa Park 8 Daughter Emily Moseph 18 Step Daugther William Moseph 1 James Ross 21 Son in Law Mary J Ross 20 Daugther Georgine Graham 24
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7 Jun 2017 17:45 |
PARK, THERESA KEEN GRO Reference: 1882 D Quarter in SALFORD Volume 08D Page 162
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7 Jun 2017 17:46 |
Connected???
MOSOPH, JOHN EDWARD KEEN GRO Reference: 1878 J Quarter in MANCHESTER Volume 08D Page
Deaths Dec 1878 (>99%) MOSOPH John Edward 0 Manchester 8d 234
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7 Jun 2017 19:00 |
Try to follow Richard park forwards
1861
Name: Richard Park Age: 29 Estimated birth year: 1832 Relation: Lodger Spouse's Name: Alice Park Gender: Male Where born: Kendal, Westmorland, England Civil Parish: Manchester Ecclesiastical parish: St George Town: Manchester County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Street address:
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Condition as to marriage: View image Registration district: Manchester Sub-registration district: St George ED, institution, or vessel: 7 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 17 Piece: 2956 Folio: 62 Page Number: 4 Household Members: Name Age John Swittenham 54 Dinah Swittenham 54 Thomas Swittenham 17 John W Swittenham 15 Mary Swittenham 10 Dinah Swettenham 23 Richard Park 29 Tailor Patience Park 2/12 Alice Park 23
Surname First name(s) District Vol Page Marriages Jun 1860 (>99%) Dillicat Alice Liverpool 8b 95 Dillicate Alice Liverpool 8b 95 Parks Richard Liverpool 8b 95
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Richard Park 48 Annie Park 38 James W. Park 18 Mary J. Park 10 Emily E. Park 8 Sarah Goodchild 59
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7 Jun 2017 19:46 |
Annie 1871??
Name: Annie Mosoph Age: 28 Estimated birth year: abt 1843 Relation: Visitor Gender: Female Where born: Manchester, Lancashire, England Civil Parish: Little Bolton Ecclesiastical parish: St George Town: Bolton County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Registration district: Bolton Sub-registration district: Little Bolton ED, institution, or vessel: 25 Household schedule number: 16 Piece: 3935 Folio: 141 Page Number: 3 Household Members: Name Age Jane Lees 41 Robert W Lees 22 Elizabeth A W Lees 18 Annie Mosoph 28 Married
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7 Jun 2017 19:59 |
Andrew can you find Annie/ int he 1861 census.? I found the 91 census, in which Annie has married Richard Park I am trying to find Annie before her marriage to Mosoph, as she is married? in the 71 you found. What is her occupation in 1871 please? This is a very mysterious family, considering the unusual name! Thanks
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7 Jun 2017 20:48 |
Annie Mosoph England and Wales Census, 1871 Name Annie Mosoph Event Type Census Event Date 1871 Event Place Little Bolton, Lancashire, England Enumeration District 25 Gender Female Age 28 Marital Status Married Occupation Vest Maker Relationship to Head of Household Visitor Birth Year (Estimated) 1843 Birthplace Manchester, Lancashire Entry Number 21 Affiliate Image Identifier GBC/1871/3935/0287 Household Role Sex Age Birthplace Jane Lees Head F 41 Salford, Lancashire Robert W Lees Son M 22 Saddleworth, Yorkshire Elizabeth A W Lees Daughter F 18 Saddleworth, Yorkshire Annie Mosoph Visitor F 28 Manchester, Lancashire Citing this Record
"England and Wales Census, 1871", database with images, FamilySearch
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7 Jun 2017 20:51 |
In 1871 Annie is a Vest maker. From the records I've found it would seem her maiden name was Keen.
Possible 1861
She is a Tailoress
Name: Annie Keen Age: 18 Estimated birth year: 1843 Relation: Daughter Mother's name: Harriat Keen Gender: Female Where born: Manchester, Lancashire, England Civil Parish: Salford Ecclesiastical parish: St Stephen Town: Salford County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Street address:
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Condition as to marriage: View image Registration district: Salford Sub-registration district: Greengate ED, institution, or vessel: 5 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 267 Piece: 2911 Folio: 26 Page Number: 45 Household Members: Name Age Harriat Keen 54 Annie Keen 18
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7 Jun 2017 20:53 |
I can't see Richard Park and Alice in 1871 at the moment, but there is a death for Alice Park of approx correct age in salford in 1873
Surname First name(s) Age District Vol Page Deaths Jun 1873 (>99%) Park Alice 36 Salford 8d 58
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7 Jun 2017 21:02 |
Andy Yes that makes sense Annie Married Richard by 18881 census
Safc any marriage to Mosoph? Please?
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7 Jun 2017 21:17 |
I've had a look at all the Ann/ie Keen marriages I can find in Lancashire 1861-1881 and Richard Park/e/s marriages 1873 -1900. and nothing fits at all. Where the name Mosoph comes from I have no idea - maybe foreign.
All I can suggest at he moment is to purchase the birth cert for John Edward Mosoph posted above and see what info that contains.
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7 Jun 2017 21:18 |
Ann Keen baptised 24/9/1842 by William Mossop Keen a servant and wife Harriett. John keen baptised 23/9/1840,
off ancestry.co.uk William Mossop keen 1814 died 1877 son of John married Harriett Seonion/Senior/Smith dad John Smith in 24/11/1839 Harriett was a widow.
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7 Jun 2017 21:20 |
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Name: John Edward Mosoph Birth Date: 31 May 1878 Baptism Date: 7 Jul 1878 Parish: Manchester, St Mary, St Denys and St George Father's name: John Mosoph - Warehouseman Mother's name: Ann Mosoph Archive Roll: 774
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7 Jun 2017 21:27 |
good find Mary!
That fits with the 1861 whichs shows Ann with mother Harriat.
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Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it
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8 Jun 2017 07:54 |
John died as a baby First name(s) JOHN EDWARD Last name MOSOPH Gender Male Birth day - Birth month - Birth year 1878 Age 0 Death quarter 4 Death year 1878 District Manchester County Lancashire Volume 8D Page 234 Country England
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Chris Ho :)
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8 Jun 2017 08:05 |
http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1334440?d=asc
(some William on above, relating)
Chris :)
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8 Jun 2017 10:32 |
Thank you Chris for the reminder. Had lost track of the previous findings!! Will put all this together if I can , though the real query re Ralph. will remain a mystery I think now.
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16 Jun 2017 23:01 |
Hi Pauline, I've done some previous research on this family and others as I'm distantly related to the Parks. Just checking my notes, I found this info:
1894 FreeBMD M Search: AMJ 1894 Salford 8d 167 an Emily Edith Franklin M John Watson at Salford Register Office or Registrar Attended (Confirmed on Lancs BMD).
Her son William Mosoph was baptized in 1895 as William Watson (Lancs OPC): 1895 Baptism: 16 Oct 1895 Christ Church, Salford, Lancashire, England William Watson - [Child] of John Watson & Emily Edith Born: 9 Dec 1889 Abode: 10 Bernsley [Bemsley] St. Occupation: Labourer Baptised by: Fred. Knight Register: Baptisms 1892 - 1898, Page 161, Entry 1286.
I've not yet found how she became a Franklin...
Richard Parks/Park was married in 1860 to Alice Dillicate 1836-1873 and then married? Annie Unknown (marriage not found). Annie died in 1919 and Richard in 1907. So maybe Annie was Annie Franklin? Emily Watson died in 1908.
I have a lot of info on the Delicate/Dillicate family.
I'll take another look into this early next week and see what I find.
Best wishes, Paul.
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20 Jun 2017 10:11 |
Thanks Paul I was just trying to find out about Ralph Mosoph, as he appears to have no birth. There is some mystery about him, which the family tried to find, but sadly not found. P
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