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Looking for any information on James E Francis believed to have married
Lucy Ann Wright in 1917 & had a soon also called James E Francis born 1918
Lucy Ann already had a daughter Charlotte born 1913 no father was named on Charlotte's birth certificate what is confusing Is, if we have the correct James E Francis he was born 1871 which would make him 25 years older than Lucy Ann
Lucy Ann died in 1971 But every body always new her as Lucy Ann Wright she was buried under the name Lucy Ann Wright we are not sure if James died soon after marriage or if they devioced all we know is James E Francis junior moved to
New Zeeland & had 4 children who don't know anything about the family or if they do know anything won't part with the information Regards Poodles

The marriage cert will give his age and fathers name If known

Just to locate them

Births Sep 1918
Francis James E Wright Basford 7b. 458

When was Lucy ann born. You say James senior was born 1871 so was 25 years older than her but that would make her born c 1896 so was she only 17 when she had Charlotte???

Do you have her actual birthdate??

Is this her on the 1939 register she is down as single

Clark Household (4 People)
604 Derby Road , Nottingham C.B., Nottinghamshire, England
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FIRST NAME(S) LAST NAME(S) DOB OCCUPATION
Lucy A Wright 30 Jun 1896 Paid Domestic Servant
Elizabeth W Clark 18 Dec 1907 Unpaid Domestic Duties
Ethel C Brown 28 Oct 1883 Unpaid Domestic Duties
Florence Foelwell 02 Oct 1913 Paid Domestic Servant
Ref: RG101/6175E/004/31 Letter Code: RMFE
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Name: Lucy A Wright
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1917
Registration district: Basford
Inferred County: Nottinghamshire
Spouse: James E Francis
Volume Number: 7b
Page Number: 321

Her death was registered under the name of Francis

Name: Lucy Ann Francis
Birth Date: 13 Feb 1896
Date of Registration: Sep 1971
Age at Death: 75
Registration district: Nottingham
Inferred County: Nottinghamshire
Volume: 3c
Page: 780

From a tree on ancestry

James Edwin Francis
1896–1951

BIRTH 17 MAY 1896 • Baschurch, Shropshire, England
DEATH 31 JULY 1951 • Leicester, Leicestershire, England

........so not born 1871, if this is correct.


Parents
George R. Francis
1862–

Sophia Jones
1865–1896

Same tree gives a second wife and children



Spouse & Children

Dorothy Gwendoline Astle
1905–1968
Gwendoline Victoria Astle 1925–1994

Dorothy Miriam Astle 1926–1993

Edwin Harvey Francis 1929–1981
Doreen patricia Francis 1932–1997

Muriel Eva Francis 1935–2008
Constance Nora Francis 1937–2015

David Francis 1940–1969
Private
Private

What happened to Charlotte ??

Not seeing her birth on freeebmd

Edit. Ok she was born 1915 not 1913

Is this her marriage

First name(s) CHARLOTTE
Last name WRIGHT
Marriage quarter 3
Marriage year 1934
Registration month -
MarriageFinder™ CHARLOTTE WRIGHT married
George E Perrin
Spouse's last name Perrin
District Basford
District number -
County Nottinghamshire
Country England
Volume 7B
Page 691
Record set England & Wales Marriages 1837-2005
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Marriages & divorces
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This is the above James on 1939:

Francis Household (4 People) 16 Sileby Road , Barrow-upon-Soar R.D., Leicestershire, England
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First name(s) Last name(s) DOB Occupation
James E Francis 17 May 1896 Gardener
Dorothy G Shaughter (Astle,Francis) 24 Jan 1904 Unpaid Domestic Duties
6 closed records here.............
Muriel E Francis 15 Aug 1935 Under School Age
Constance N Geary (Slaughter,Frances) 29 Apr 1937 Under School Age
1 closed record here...................

Dea x

this 1939 would fit with above:-

16 Sileby Road , Barrow-upon-Soar R.D., Leicestershire, England

FIRST NAME(S) LAST NAME(S) DOB SEX OCCUPATION MARITAL STATUS SCHEDULE SCHEDULE SUB NUMBER

James E Francis 17 May 1896 Male Gardener Married 265 1
Dorothy G Shaughter (Astle,Francis) 24 Jan 1904 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married 265 2
Muriel E Francis 15 Aug 1935 Female Under School Age Single 265 9
Constance N Geary (Slaughter,Frances) 29 Apr 1937 Female Under School Age Single 265 10

there is a charlotte born 1915 mother looks unmarried

WRIGHT, CHARLOTTE    
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GRO Reference: 1915  D Quarter in BASFORD  Volume 07B  Page 458

oops,1939 already posted.

????

Bingham Household (2 People) 35 Willersley Street , Nottingham C.B., Nottinghamshire, England
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First name(s) Last name(s) DOB Sex Occupation Marital status Schedule Schedule Sub Number
Lucy (Ann) Francis (Bingham) 13 Feb 1896 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married 167 2
William Bingham 10 May 1899 Male Florist Married 167 1

So Lucy should be on the 1939 register as Francis not Wright then ????

That death doesn't look right because this is the lady on the 1939 register


Bingham Household (2 People)
35 Willersley Street , Nottingham C.B., Nottinghamshire, England
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FIRST NAME(S) LAST NAME(S) DOB OCCUPATION
Lucy (Ann) Francis (Bingham) 13 Feb 1896 Unpaid Domestic Duties
William Bingham 10 May 1899 Florist
Ref: RG101/6180G/013/26 Letter Code: RMGX
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there is a tree on ancestry which as James born 1896

Married to Lucy Ann Wright child James E

however

it is followed by 2 children with Gwendoline Victoria Astle (surname Astle) and 6 more with Francis surname.

I can't find a marriage between James & Gwen so maybe he just left Lucy and never divorced her

SORRY - info submitted by others while I was typing

this is the only james e francis born 1871

Births Sep 1871   (>99%)

FRANCIS
 James Ellis S
 
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James E Francis
United States Border Crossings from Mexico to United States, 1903-1957
birth:

London
immigration:
4 March 1926

other:
4 March 1926

England & Wales deaths 1837-2007 Transcription
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First name(s) LUCY ANN
Last name BINGHAM
Gender Female
Birth day 13
Birth month 2
Birth year 1896
Age -
Death quarter 3
Death year 1971
District Nottingham
County Nottinghamshire
Volume 3C
Page 780
Country England
Record set England & Wales Deaths 1837-2007
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Deaths & burials
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Deaths Sep 1971 (>99%)
BINGHAM Lucy Ann 13Fe1896 Nottingham 3c 780

FRANCIS Lucy Ann 13Fe1896 Nottingham 3c 780