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23 May 2017 14:45 |
Hi All, Could kind person please look at the following record on ancestry or find my past please to see if John is down as married, I got this from familysearch and he is with his 3 sisters but doesn't say if married and no wife with him, I found a possible marriage in 1900 to a Catherine Steele but not sure if its him.
John A Wallace Event Type Census Event Date 31 Mar 1901 Event Place South Manchester, Lancashire, England County Lancashire Civil Parish South Manchester Ecclesiastical Parish Gorton St Marks Sub-District Ardwick Registration District Chorlton Residence Note Hampden Street Gender Male Age 25 Occupation RAILWAY SHUNTER Relationship to Head of Household Head Birth Year (Estimated) 1876 Birthplace Manchester, Lancashire Schedule Type 215 Page Number 33
thank you for any help given on this.
Wendy
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23 May 2017 14:48 |
1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription 14, Hampden Street, South Manchester, Chorlton, Lancashire, England
Learn more Print transcription View image Household Members First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place John A Wallace Head Married Male 25 1876 Railway Shunter Manchester, Lancashire, England Transcription Lilian M Wallace Sister Single Female 19 1882 Machinist Corsets Manchester, Lancashire, England Transcription Annie H Wallace Sister Single Female 16 1885 Machinist Waterproof Manchester, Lancashire, England Transcription Martha J Wallace Sister Single Female 11 1890 - Manchester, Lancashire, England
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23 May 2017 14:55 |
Hi safc,
Thank you sooooooo much that comfirms it, wonder where is wife Catherine was?
All the best
Wendy
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ArgyllGran
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23 May 2017 14:56 |
This is the same John in 1891.
What does the marriage cert say is his father's name?
John A Wallis in the 1891 England Census Name: John A Wallis Age: 15 Estimated birth year: abt 1876 Relation: Son Father's name: Thomas Wallis Mother's name: Mary Jane Wallis Gender: Male Where born: Cheetham, Lancashire, England Civil Parish: Chorlton on Medlock Ecclesiastical parish: St Saviour County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Registration district: Chorlton ED, institution, or vessel: 25 Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 3185 Folio: 36 Page Number: 26 Household Members: Name Age Thomas Wallis 48 Mary Jane Wallis 45 Thomas W Wallis 17 John A Wallis 15 Lilian M Wallis 9 Anne H Wallis 6 Martha J Wallis 1
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23 May 2017 14:57 |
This looks like him in 1911, with wife Catherine:
John A Wallis in the 1911 England Census Name: John A Wallis Age in 1911: 35 Estimated birth year: abt 1876 Relation to Head: Head Gender: Male Birth Place: Manchester Civil Parish: Arlecdon County/Island: Cumberland Country: England Street address: 5 George St Frizington Marital Status: Married Occupation: Engine Man Registration district: Whitehaven Registration District Number: 577 Sub-registration district: Harrington ED, institution, or vessel: 11 Piece: 31485 Household Members: Name Age John A Wallis 35 Catherine E Wallis 30 Elizabeth A Wallis 8 Martha Jane Wallis 4
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Maddie
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23 May 2017 15:07 |
1911 Name: John A Wallis Age in 1911: 35 Estimated birth year: abt 1876 Relation to Head: Head Gender: Male Birth Place: Manchester Civil Parish: Arlecdon Search Photos: Search for 'Arlecdon' in the UK City, Town and Village Photos collection County/Island: Cumberland Country: England Street address: 5 George St Frizington Marital Status: Married Occupation: Engine Man Registration district: Whitehaven Registration District Number: 577 Sub-registration district: Harrington ED, institution, or vessel: 11 Piece: 31485 Household Members: Name Age John A Wallis 35 engine man Catherine E Wallis 30 Elizabeth A Wallis 8 Martha Jane Wallis 4
married 10 years
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Maddie
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23 May 2017 15:09 |
WALLIS, MARTHA JANE STEELE Order GRO Reference: 1907 J Quarter in WHITEHAVEN Volume 10B Page 720
WALLIS, ELIZABETH ANN STEELE Order GRO Reference: 1903 M Quarter in WHITEHAVEN Volume 10B Page 681
Name: Alfred E Wallis Mother's Maiden Surname: Stoele Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1919 Registration district: Whitehaven Inferred County: Cumberland Volume Number: 10b Page Number: 1034
1939 Wallis Household (4 People) 29 Solway Road, Moresby Park , Ennerdale R.D., Cumberland, England
First name(s) Last name(s) DOB Sex Occupation Marital status Schedule Schedule Sub Number John A Wallis 24 Jan 1876 Male Colliery Electric Haulage Hand Below Married 170 1 Catherine E Wallis 23 Dec 1880 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married 170 2 Alfred E Wallis 02 Apr 1919 Male Colliery Rope Hand Below Single 170 3 Lenora M Preckett 02 Jul 1915 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married 170 5
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ArgyllGran
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23 May 2017 15:09 |
Here's Catherine in 1891 - surname is Steele on image.
The Ancestry transcription is a mess. They have mixed up the Connors at 3 George Street, with Thomas Corlett and the three Steeles at 4 George Street. They've also included a family of Baileys at 5 George Street, calling them all Connor in the transcription, but I've missed them out here.
Cathrine E Connor in the 1891 England Census
Name: Cathrine E Connor [Cathrine E Steele] Age: 10 Estimated birth year: abt 1881 Relation: Daughter Father's name: Michael Connor (No - not her father!) Gender: Female Where born: Frizington, Cumberland, England Civil Parish: Arlecdon Ecclesiastical parish: Arlecdon Town: Frizington County/Island: Cumberland Country: England Street address: 4 George Street Occupation: Registration district: Whitehaven ED, institution, or vessel: 9 Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 4312 Folio: 36 Page Number: 2 Household Members: Name Age Michael Connor 54 - NO, he's at 3 George Street Margaret Connor 70 - NO, she's at 3 George Street Thomas E Corlett 38 - single Elizabeth Steele 35 - servant Sarah E Steele 18 - servant Cathrine E Connor 10 - daughter [Steele]
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Maddie
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23 May 2017 15:15 |
fmp version of above Steele Bank, Arlecdon, Whitehaven, Cumberland, England
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place Elizabeth A Steele Head Single Female 25 1856 Dressmaker Maryport, Cumberland, England Transcription Mary Steele Sister Single Female 17 1864 - Whitehaven, Cumberland, England Transcription Sarah E Steele Daughter Single Female 7 1874 Scholar Frizington, Cumberland, England Transcription Catherine E Steele Daughter Single Female 0 1881 Infant Frizington, Cumberland, England
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23 May 2017 15:21 |
1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription 4, George Street, Arlecdon, Whitehaven, Cumberland, England
Learn more Print transcription View image Household Members First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place Elizabeth A Steel Head Single Female 45 1856 Dress Maker Maryport, Cumberland, England Transcription Cathrin E Wallace Visitor Married Female 20 1881 - Frizington, Cumberland, England Transcription Nora C Steel Daughter Single Female 8 1893 - Frizington, Cumberland, England Transcription Thomas H Steel Adopted Son Single Male 9 1892 - Frizington, Cumberland, England
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Maddie
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23 May 2017 15:25 |
SARAH ELIZA Last name STEEL Birth year 1873 Birth quarter 3 Registration month - Mother's last name - District Whitehaven County Cumberland Country England Volume 10B Page 578
CATHERINE ELIZABETH Last name STEEL Birth year 1881 Birth quarter 1 Registration month - Mother's last name - District Whitehaven County Cumberland Country England Volume 10B Page 588
STEELE, NORA CORLETT - Order GRO Reference: 1893 J Quarter in WHITEHAVEN Volume 10B Page 663
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Maddie
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23 May 2017 15:28 |
Results: Name: Mother's Maiden Surname: STEEL, CATHERINE ELIZABETH - Order GRO Reference: 1881 M Quarter in WHITEHAVEN Volume 10B Page 588
STEEL, SARAH ELIZA RUSSELL Order GRO Reference: 1873 S Quarter in WHITEHAVEN Volume 10B Page 578
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23 May 2017 15:59 |
1939 for mother elizabeth 39 Mill Street, Frizington , Ennerdale R.D., Cumberland, England First name(s) Last name(s) DOB Sex Occupation Marital status Schedule Schedule Sub Number Elizabeth A Steele 05 May 1856 Female Unpaid Domestic Dutie Single 223 1
1911 39 Mill St Frizington, Arlecdon, Cumberland, England First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Occupation Age Birth year Birth place Thomas E Carlett Head Single Male Miner Below 60 1851 Kirkmanghold I of Man Transcription Elizabeth Ann Steele Housekeeper Single Female - 55 1856 Maryport Cumberland Transcription Thomas Steele Nephew Single Male Groom Domestic 18 1893 Frizington Cumberland Transcription Robert Hooper Nephew - Male - 14 1897 Whitehaven Cumberland
1861 : Elizabeth A Steel Age: 4 Estimated birth year: 1857 Relation: Daughter Father's name: Henry Steel Mother's name: Mary C Steel Gender: Female Where born: Maryport, Cumberland, England Civil Parish: St Bees Ecclesiastical parish: Holy Trinity Town: Whitehaven County/Island: Cumberland Country: England Street address:
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Condition as to marriage: View image Registration district: Whitehaven Sub-registration district: Whitehaven ED, institution, or vessel: 1 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 115 Piece: 3946 Folio: 15 Page Number: 24 Household Members: Name Age Henry Steel 31 Mary C Steel 27 Elizabeth A Steel 4 Sarah Steel 3
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ArgyllGran
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23 May 2017 17:22 |
Births Jun 1856 (>99%) STEEL Elizabeth Ann Cockermouth 10b 461
Thomas H Steele, "nephew" in 1911 and "adopted son" in 1901:
STEEL, THOMAS HENRY - (no mms) GRO Reference: 1892 S Quarter in WHITEHAVEN Volume 10B Page 643
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Nottsgirl
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23 May 2017 17:30 |
Hi All. Sorry something came up and had to go off line.
Wow Thank you all so much for all that info that's brilliant :-D you are all star's :-D
All the best
Wendy
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mgnv
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23 May 2017 19:40 |
Using http://www.lancashirebmd.org.uk/ Lancashire Marriage indexes for the years: 1900[q4] Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference WALLIS John A STEELE Catherine E Chorlton-on-Medlock Register Office or Registrar Attended Archives+, Manchester Central Library CHO_RM/143/143
Although from 1898, non-conformists could apply to become authorized to keep official marr rego's, even by 1900q4 a sizable fraction of those who wished had not yet been authorized (RCs chose not to apply until 1980-ish - but often a fair bit earlier in Lancs). So one might find an unofficial non-conformist marr rego entry for this marr, but my guess is that it's a rego office marr and there's no other record.
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Nottsgirl
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24 May 2017 07:17 |
Hi mgnv,
Thank you , yes that's what I was thinking it was a Register Office marriage. It is the Wallis side of the family I'm doing and I know John's sister Martha Jane was in Qourn Leicestershire in 1911 and that's where their parents Thomas Wallis and Mary Jane Ball married.
Wendy
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