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18 May 2017 16:13 |
Ok thanks maybe them .....
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Maddie
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18 May 2017 16:12 |
just supposition Name: William Collins Baptism Date: 27 Jul 1740 Parish: All Hallows, Tottenham County: Middlesex Borough: Haringey Parent(s): William Collins, Mary Collins Record Type: Baptism Register Type: Parish Register
maybe a connection Name: Mary Collins Record Type: Burial Age: 83 Estimated birth year: abt 1740 Death Date: abt 1823 Burial Date: 23 Mar 1823 Burial Place: St Andrew, Enfield, England Parish or Poor Law Union: St Andrew, Enfield Borough: Enfield Register Type: Parish Register widow of samuel
Name: Anne Collins Record Type: Burial Age: 81 Estimated birth year: abt 1743 Death Date: abt 1824 Burial Date: 14 Mar 1824 Burial Place: St Andrew, Enfield, England Parish or Poor Law Union: St Andrew, Enfield Borough: Enfield Register Type: Parish Register
widow of william a labourer
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18 May 2017 15:37 |
Yes that's correct
Stuck trying to find records about William and Anne ......
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18 May 2017 15:35 |
Thank you :) This is where I hit a brick wall Cannot find any info about William + Anne Collins in Enfield anywhere :( .....??
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Maddie
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18 May 2017 15:34 |
is this right george's parents Joseph born 1806 who married matilda baber
His parents Joseph born 1773 who married sara m cock
His parents William and Mary
from above baptisms
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Maddie
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18 May 2017 15:25 |
Name: Matilda Barker Spouse: Joseph Collins Record Type: Marriage Event Date: 15 Feb 1835 Parish: West Hackney Borough: Hackney Register Type: Parish Register
WITNESSES JOHN COLLINS AND ANN MANSFIEL COLLINS
Name: Joseph Collins Baptism Date: 23 Nov 1806 Parish: All Hallows, Tottenham County: Middlesex Borough: Haringey Parent(s): Joseph Collins, Sarah Maria Collins Record Type: Baptism Register Type: Parish Register
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18 May 2017 15:14 |
just copied this over Joseph's sisters and brothers
Chrysostomus 1770 Charles 1771 Mary 1775 Susanna 1776 David 1778 ----------------- Thomas 1782
Name: David Collins Baptism Date: 7 Feb 1779 Parish: St Andrew County: Middlesex Borough: Enfield Parent(s): William Collins, Anne Collins Record Type: Baptism Register Type: Parish Register
Name: Charles Collins Baptism Date: 27 Oct 1771 Parish: St Andrew County: Middlesex Borough: Enfield Parent(s): William Collins, Anne Collins Record Type: Baptism
Name: Joseph Collins ------------------- Baptism Date: 14 Feb 1773 Parish: St Andrew County: Middlesex Borough: Enfield Parent(s): William Collins, Anne Collins Record Type: Baptism Register Type: Parish Register
Name: Mary Collins Baptism Date: 26 Mar 1775 Parish: St Andrew County: Middlesex Borough: Enfield Parent(s): William Collins, Anne Collins Record Type: Baptism Register Type: Parish Register
Name: Susanna Collins Baptism Date: 13 Dec 1776 Parish: St Andrew County: Middlesex Borough: Enfield Parent(s): William Collins, Anne Collins Record Type: Baptism Register Type: Parish Register
Name: Susanna Collins Baptism Date: 7 Feb 1779 Parish: St Andrew County: Middlesex Borough: Enfield Parent(s): William Collins, Anne Collins Record Type: Baptism Register Type: Parish Register
Name: Mary Collins Baptism Date: 29 Apr 1781 Parish: St Andrew County: Middlesex Borough: Enfield Parent(s): William Collins, Anne Collins Record Type: Baptism Register Type: Parish Register
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18 May 2017 14:48 |
Name: Frederick Collins Record Type: Baptism Baptism Date: 10 May 1818 Father's name: Joseph Collins Mother's name: Sdarah Maria Collins Parish or Poor Law Union: All Hallows, Tottenham Borough: Haringey Register Type: Parish Registers
abode Tottenham, fathers occupation chandler
Name: Frederick Collins ---- wheelwright Spouse: Matilda Johnson Record Type: Marriage Event Date: 14 May 1842 Parish: West Hackney Borough: Hackney Father Name: Joseph Collins ---- corn chandler Register Type: Parish Register
Name: Ann Manfield Collins Record Type: Baptism Baptism Date: 26 Mar 1815 Father's name: Joseph Collins Mother's name: Sarah Maria Collins Parish or Poor Law Union: All Hallows, Tottenham Borough: Haringey Register Type: Parish Registers
Name: Joseph Collins Baptism Date: 23 Nov 1806 Parish: All Hallows, Tottenham County: Middlesex Borough: Haringey Parent(s): Joseph Collins, Sarah Maria Collins Record Type: Baptism Register Type: Parish Register
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18 May 2017 13:49 |
The children were baptized at St Andrews church , Enfield town
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17 May 2017 14:18 |
Be great to find more records :)
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16 May 2017 22:06 |
Those other names are Joseph's brothers and sisters Joseph was born in 1772 as well He went in to marry Sarah Maria Cock
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16 May 2017 21:49 |
Simon, I'm not sure that helps! Those must surely be the siblings of the Joseph that we can't prove is the father of your Joseph who married Matilda.
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16 May 2017 19:24 |
Joseph's sisters and brothers
Chrysostomus 1770 Charles 1771 Mary 1775 Susanna 1776 David 1778 Thomas 1782
He had two other sisters who died very young , another Mary and Sussana ( when they died the next two girls were named after them )
Hope this helps find there father
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16 May 2017 15:33 |
Ok I see Joseph had a lot of sisters and brothers
I will send you there names with dates a bit later today
Once again thank you very much for your time and help
It would be great to find his fathers name
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16 May 2017 15:23 |
Yes. That's what I was thinking but the problem is that Your Joseph married before civil registration began in 1837 so we don't know who his father was and the chances are that the same would apply to any possible siblings. Without finding any baptismal records we can't even be sure he had any siblings.
I really have to go and get ready as I am due to go out shortly but will look back later tonight or tomorrow. Perhaps Maddie will find some more to go by then.
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16 May 2017 15:06 |
Maybe Sarah Wright was Joseph's sister ?
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16 May 2017 15:01 |
That's great information about Sarah :)
Yes let me know about Sarah Wright connection to Joseph
Thank you again
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16 May 2017 14:55 |
Registrar's surname was maybe Ross - old fashioned way of writing a double s looked like fs.
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16 May 2017 14:53 |
So, looks like Mary Cropley was Sarah Maria's sister?
JOHN Last name CROPLEY Marriage year 1812 Marriage day 8 Marriage month Nov Place TOTTENHAM Groom's first name(s) John Groom's last name CROPLEY Bride's first name(s) Mary Bride's last name COCK County Middlesex Country England Record set West Middlesex Marriage Index Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records Subcategory Marriages & divorces Collections from Great Britain West Middlesex Family History Society
Still doesn't give us a connection with your Joseph to Sarah's husband Joseph.
Let's see if we can identify Sarah Wright and her connection to Joseph (1773)
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16 May 2017 13:41 |
Sarah Maria Last name Cock Residence St Margaret Westminster Marriage year 1802 Parish St Margaret, Westminster Spouse's first name(s) Joseph Spouse's last name Collins Spouse residence St Margaret Westminster County Middlesex Country England Archive City of Westminster Archives Centre Record set Westminster Marriages Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records Subcategory Marriages & divorces Collections from Great Britain
a maybe Name: Sarah Maria Cock Baptism Date: 29 Aug 1773 Parish: All Saints, Edmonton County: Middlesex Borough: Enfield Parent(s): John Cock, Ann Cock Record Type: Baptism Register Type: Parish Register
Name: Sarah Maria Collins Record Type: Burial Age: 65 Estimated birth year: abt 1774 Death Date: abt 1839 Burial Date: 13 Jan 1839 Burial Place: All Hallows, Tottenham, England Parish or Poor Law Union: All Hallows, Tottenham Borough: Haringey Register Type: Parish Register
Name: Joseph Collins EDIT --- SEE PAGE 3 FOR BAPTISM Record Type: Burial Age: 84 Estimated birth year: abt 1774 Death Date: abt 1858 Burial Date: 31 Dec 1858 Burial Place: All Hallows, Tottenham, England Parish or Poor Law Union: All Hallows, Tottenham Borough: Haringey Register Type: Parish Register
1841 First name(s) Last name Gender Age Birth year Birth place Joseph Collins Male 68 1773 Middlesex, England Transcription Frederick Collins Male 23 1818 Middlesex, England Transcription Ann Mantfield Female 25 1816 Middlesex, England Transcription Joannah Tibbitt Female 85 1756 Middlesex, England
1851 King Street, Tottenham, Edmonton, Middlesex, England
Learn more Print transcription View image Household Members First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place John Cropley Head Married Male 78 1773 Shoemaker Journey Man Pauper Ely, Cambridgeshire, England Transcription Mary Cropley Wife Married Female 69 1782 Wife Of Shoemaker Journey Man Pauper Edmonton, Middlesex, England Transcription Joseph Collins Lodger Widower Male 78 1773 Formerly & Corn & Coal Dealer Seambler's Pensioner Enfield, Middlesex, England Transcription Henry Drane Lodger Unmarried Male 37 1814 Stage Coachman Bury St Edmunds, Suffolk, England
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John Last name Cock Gender Male Birth year 1745 Birth place - Baptism year 1746 Baptism date 13 Apr 1746 Place Shoreditch County London Country England Father's first name(s) John Father's last name Cock Mother's first name(s) Ann Mother's last name - Record set England Births & Baptisms 1538-1975 Record set England Marriages 1538-1973 Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records Subcategory Marriages & divorces Collections from Great Britain
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John Last name Cock Name note - Marriage year 1772 Marriage date 26 Apr 1772 Marriage place London Spouse's first name(s) Ann Spouse's last name Manfield ---- see 1841 census childs middle name County London Country England Record set England Marriages 1538-1973 Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records Subcategory Marriages & divorces Collections from Great Britain
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