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George Collins family inTottenham , 1800-1900

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Simon

Simon Report 16 May 2017 08:44

Hello,
I'm tracing my Collins family from Tottenham
George Collins born 1838 married Emma Fuller in 1869

They lived in Moselle street and Whitehall street

Does anyone have any more names and dates going further back please

Thank you

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 16 May 2017 09:56

Good morning Simon. Welcome to the boards.

If you can give us a wee bit information on what you have and tell us where your "blanks" are, we can perhaps help you. There is no point to us "finding" what you already have. Give us some names and dates please and let us know if you wish to work forward or back from them.

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 16 May 2017 10:04

Loads of Collins families in Tottenham on census records. When did your family live in the streets you have named please?

Simon

Simon Report 16 May 2017 10:04

Hi
Thanks for the reply
My great , great grandfather George Collins was born in 1838 and he married Emma Fuller in 1869

I want to work backwards from them please

Thank you
Simon

Simon

Simon Report 16 May 2017 10:08

They lived in Moselle street

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 16 May 2017 10:14

George Collins in the London, England, Church of England Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921
Name: George Collins (Bachelor) Carman....West Hackney
Spouse: Emma Fuller (Spinster) West Hackney
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 28 Feb 1869
Parish: West Hackney
Borough: Hackney
Father Name: Joseph Collins (Gardener)
Spouse Father: Robert Fuller (Lighterman)
Witnesses: Daniel???? Robins and Fanny Clark
Register Type: Parish Register

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 16 May 2017 10:24

Thank you Simon. I'm sure you have this but just to get us started

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1871 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Moselle Street, Tottenham, Edmonton, Middlesex, England

George Collins Head - Male 32 1839 - Middlesex, England
Emma Collins Wife - Female 26 1845 - Middlesex, England


George's occupation on the image is Gardener.


PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 16 May 2017 10:25

George Collins in the London, England, Church of England Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906
Name: George Collins
Record Type: Baptism
Baptism Date: 21 Oct 1838
Father's name: Joseph Collins (Coal Merchant)
Mother's name: Matilda Collins
Parish or Poor Law Union: All Hallows, Tottenham
Borough: Haringey
Register Type: Parish Registers


rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 16 May 2017 10:26


1841 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Kings Road, Tottenham, Edmonton, Middlesex, England

Joseph Collins Male 30 1811 Middlesex, England
Matilda Collins Female 30 1811 Middlesex, England
Hannah Collins Female 4 1837 Middlesex, England
George Collins Male 2 1839 Middlesex, England
Charles Collins Male 0 1841 Middlesex, England
James Steel Male 30 1811 Middlesex, England

Simon

Simon Report 16 May 2017 10:26

Thank you for that :)

Would like to go further back

I think Joseph Collins was born in 1806 and married Matilda Barber in 1834/5

I had this info given to me many many years ago but don't know if it's correct ...?

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 16 May 2017 10:29

Maybe?

COLLINS, GEORGE BARBER
GRO Reference: 1838 D Quarter in EDMONTON Volume 03 Page 103

Simon

Simon Report 16 May 2017 10:29

Possible parents of Joseph according to my very old piece of paper ...??

Joseph and Sarah Maria , married 1802

Thank you

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 16 May 2017 10:31

Joseph Collins in the 1841 England Census
Name: Joseph Collins
Age: 30
Estimated birth year: abt 1811
Gender: Male
Where born: Middlesex, England
Civil Parish: Tottenham
Hundred: Edmonton
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

View image
Registration district: Edmonton
Sub-registration district: Tottenham
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 654
Book: 23
Folio: 28
Page Number: 34
Household Members:
Name Age
Joseph Collins 30 (Coal Merchant)
Matilda Collins 30
Hannah Collins 4
George Collins 2
Charles Collins 5 Mo


George Collins in the 1851 England Census
Name: George Collins
Age: 12
Estimated birth year: abt 1839
Relation: Son
Father's name: Joseph Collins
Mother's name: Matilda Collins
Gender: Male
Where born: Tottenham, Middlesex, England
Civil Parish: Tottenham
Ecclesiastical parish: Allhallows
Phillimore Ecclesiastical Parish Maps:
View related Ecclesiastical Parish
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability:

View image
Registration district: Edmonton
Sub-registration district: Hornsey
ED, institution, or vessel: 2b
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 73
Piece: 1702
Folio: 327
Page Number: 18
Household Members:
Name Age
Joseph Collins 44
Matilda Collins 50
George Collins 12
Charles Collins 10
Matilda Collins 8

Simon

Simon Report 16 May 2017 10:32

I would be very grateful if we can go even further back

Thank you

Simon

Simon Report 16 May 2017 10:35

I think they were from Enfield .....

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 16 May 2017 10:43

Joseph is consistent on the census records giving his birthplace as Tottenham but I don't see a baptism records for him.

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 16 May 2017 10:51

Looks like they married in Matilda's parish as she gives her birthplace as Hackney on some of the census records.

Joseph
Last name Collins
Birth year -
Marriage year 1835
Spouse's first name(s) Matilda
Spouse's last name Barber
Place Hackney St Barnabas
County Middlesex
Country England
Source Boyd's marriage index, 1538-1850
Record set England, Boyd's Marriage Indexes, 1538-1850
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Marriages & divorces
Collections from Great Britain
Society of Genealogists

Simon

Simon Report 16 May 2017 11:04

If anyone finds records of Joseph Collins and Sarah Maria's marriage ( 1802 ) ??
please let me know
Think her maiden name was Cock

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 16 May 2017 11:09

Is this the Joseph that you think may be your Joseph's father please?

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1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
King Street, Tottenham, Edmonton, Middlesex, England

John Cropley Head Married Male 78 1773 Shoemaker Journey Man Pauper Ely, Cambridgeshire, England
Mary Cropley Wife Married Female 69 1782 Wife Of Shoemaker Journey Man Pauper Edmonton, Middlesex, England
Joseph Collins Lodger Widower Male 78 1773 Formerly & Corn & Coal Dealer Seambler's Pensioner Enfield, Middlesex, England
Henry Drane Lodger Unmarried Male 37 1814 Stage Coachman Bury St Edmunds, Suffolk, England


Without a paper trail, there's no certainty unless your Joseph was the informant on the death registration of the above Joseph.


rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 16 May 2017 11:13


COLLINS, JOSEPH 84
GRO Reference: 1857 D Quarter in EDMONTON Volume 03A Page 88