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Member Since: February 2006 Posts: 36,149 Send Message	Rambling	Report	15 May 2017 14:42
	Just because I came across it, and might be relevant to not appearing on the 1901? William Howarth in the UK, Military Deserters, 1812-1927 Name: William Howarth Age: 26 Birth Year: Abt 1874 Birth Place: West Derby, Lancashire Desertion Date: 1900 Publication Date: 20 Feb 1900
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Member Since: August 2007 Posts: 10,049 Send Message	safc	Report	15 May 2017 15:00
	???? BOYLE, ELIZABETH - Order GRO Reference: 1892 D Quarter in TOXTETH PARK Volume 08B Page 228
	Researching: Abby says please do not send messages to safc, always reply on your thread, as Abby is just a paying member of genes reunited. helping other members. thank you.
Member Since: June 2007 Posts: 31,288 Send Message	PricklyHolly	Report	15 May 2017 16:32
	Thank you again everyone. I've not found anything that convinces me enough to purchase a birth certificate. :-( Prickles. x
	Researching: "If I don't see you through the week.........I will see you through the window". :o))
Member Since: September 2015 Posts: 5,278 Send Message	AustinQ	Report	15 May 2017 16:37
	Hello PH- Short on time, but thought this might be of interest (note witness): Marriage: Name: Henry Howarth Gender: Male Age: 22 Birth Year: abt 1897 Marriage Date: 21 Dec 1919 Marriage Place: Liverpool, St Philip, Lancashire, England Father: William Lawrence Howarth (Labourer) Spouse: Rebecca Elizabeth Rowson Witnesses: Thomas Reynolds & Isabella Peters
Member Since: June 2007 Posts: 31,288 Send Message	PricklyHolly	Report	15 May 2017 17:32
	Oh yes...........that is interesting Austin thank you. Will see what i can find. Ah, that is the William Lawrence Howarth who married ...Mary Talbot. Marriages Jun 1894 (>99%) Howarth William Lawrence Liverpool 8b 22 Talbot Mary Liverpool 8b 22
	Researching: "If I don't see you through the week.........I will see you through the window". :o))
Member Since: June 2007 Posts: 31,288 Send Message	PricklyHolly	Report	15 May 2017 17:50
	This is the family in 1911..............with the daughter Lizzie i mentioned earlier 1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription 14 Dee Street Liverpool, West Derby, Lancashire, England William Howarth Head Married Male Mill Hand 37 1874 Liverpool Transcription Mary Howarth Wife Married Female - 34 1877 Liverpool Transcription Lizzie Howarth Daughter Single Female - 17 1894 Liverpool Transcription Henry Howarth Son Single Male - 13 1898 Liverpool Transcription Jane Howarth Daughter Single Female - 10 1901 Liverpool Transcription Richard Howarth Son Single Male - 5 1906 Liverpool Transcription Alfred Howarth Son Single Male - 2 1909 Liverpool Transcription Lilian Howarth - Single Female - 0 1911 Liverpool Transcription Jas Law Lodger Married Male Labourer 49 1862 Liverpool Transcription Bridget Finertyser Servant Widow Female - 74 1837 Killkemey HOWARTH, ELIZABETH MMN TALBOT GRO Reference: 1894 D Quarter in WEST DERBY Volume 08B Page 598 I am not seeing a birth for a Jane Howarth MMN Talbot.
	Researching: "If I don't see you through the week.........I will see you through the window". :o))
Member Since: June 2007 Posts: 31,288 Send Message	PricklyHolly	Report	15 May 2017 18:07
	Just looking to see if i can spot the parents on the 1939 Register.
	Researching: "If I don't see you through the week.........I will see you through the window". :o))
Member Since: September 2015 Posts: 5,278 Send Message	AustinQ	Report	15 May 2017 18:10
	Possible? Sorry PH, I don't have time to follow this at the moment 4 Ash Grove , Liverpool C.B., Lancashire, England William T Haworth 12 Jul 1873 Male General Labourer Married Mary Haworth 08 May 1877 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married Closed Record Marie Fitzsimmons (Haworth) 14 Sep 1919 Female Factory Hand - Sweep Single Closed record ------------------------------ William's initial is L on original Births Dec 1919 Howarth Marie Talbot W. Derby 8b 1167 off out- will try and pop back tomorrow :)
Member Since: June 2007 Posts: 31,288 Send Message	PricklyHolly	Report	15 May 2017 18:24
	Thank you Austin FMP is in *Go Slow" mode at the moment so it's taking me forever.
	Researching: "If I don't see you through the week.........I will see you through the window". :o))
Member Since: June 2007 Posts: 31,288 Send Message	PricklyHolly	Report	15 May 2017 18:34
	The is no Elizabeth/Lizzie with her parents on the 1901 census William Laurina (Lawrence on the image) Howarth in the 1901 England Census Name: William Laurina Howarth Age: 25 Estimated birth year: abt 1876 Relation to Head: Head Gender: Male Spouse: Mary Howarth Birth Place: Liverpool, Lancashire, England Civil Parish: West Derby Registration district: West Derby Sub-registration district: West Derby, Eastern Household Members: William Laurina Howarth 25 Mary Howarth 23 Henry Howarth 3
	Researching: "If I don't see you through the week.........I will see you through the window". :o))
Member Since: February 2006 Posts: 36,149 Send Message	Rambling	Report	15 May 2017 19:51
	Prickly Holly Do you think Jane on that 1911 census might be Mary (Jane) HOWARTH, MARY TALBOT Order GRO Reference: 1900 M Quarter in WEST DERBY Volume 08B Page 682
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Member Since: June 2007 Posts: 31,288 Send Message	PricklyHolly	Report	15 May 2017 20:29
	Hi Rose Sorry i had an unexpected visitor. I found Mary.........how very odd. I was trying to see if i could find a parish marriage record for Jane to see who the witnesses were. Perhaps i will give Mary a go. :-S
	Researching: "If I don't see you through the week.........I will see you through the window". :o))
Member Since: June 2007 Posts: 31,288 Send Message	PricklyHolly	Report	15 May 2017 20:59
	I have come to the conclusion that even if i purchase a copy of the birth certificate for Elizabeth Howarth born 1894 MMN Talbot..........it wont help with the details given on her marriage record. My eyes have turned inside out. :-S Prickles, x
	Researching: "If I don't see you through the week.........I will see you through the window". :o))
Member Since: August 2007 Posts: 10,049 Send Message	safc	Report	15 May 2017 21:35
	PricklyHolly does it say what elizabeth howards occupation is?
	Researching: Abby says please do not send messages to safc, always reply on your thread, as Abby is just a paying member of genes reunited. helping other members. thank you.
Member Since: February 2006 Posts: 36,149 Send Message	Rambling	Report	15 May 2017 22:08
	I am sorry if I am repeating, but you did notice that on the marriage of Henry the witness was Thomas Reynolds? VIEW Liverpool, England, Church of England Marriages and Banns, 1813-1921 Name: Henry Howarth Gender: Male Age: 22 Birth Year: abt 1897 Marriage Date: 21 Dec 1919 Marriage Place: Liverpool, St Philip, Lancashire, England Phillimore Ecclesiastical Parish Map: View this parish Father: William Lawrence Howarth Spouse: Rebecca Elizabeth Rowson
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Member Since: June 2007 Posts: 31,288 Send Message	PricklyHolly	Report	15 May 2017 22:28
	No Occupation given for Elizabeth Saf. Yes i did notice the witness Thomas Reynolds Rose. A wee glimmer of hope. That's why i tried to search for a parish marriage record for Jane or Mary............to see who the witnesses were.
	Researching: "If I don't see you through the week.........I will see you through the window". :o))
Member Since: September 2015 Posts: 5,278 Send Message	AustinQ	Report	16 May 2017 12:21
	I'm still short on time but wanted to add- I'm not sure the Mary birth in 1900 is correct for Jane. I think that Mary possibly died. I can't find Jane's birth at the moment, but on her Father's service record from Jan 1915 the children listed at home are: Jane- 31st July 1901 (she's crossed out with 'over age' written next to her) William Lawrence 21st February 1904 Richard 16th April 1906 Alfred 6th January 1909 Lilian 14th December 1910 --------------------------------------------- William married Amy Ashton 1925 Richard married Sarah Rowson 1929 (sister of Rebecca who married Henry) Lilian married John P Geoghegan 1933
Member Since: January 2003 Posts: 13,478 Send Message	rootgatherer	Report	16 May 2017 12:36
	Maybe the witness? Not seeing her in 1911 1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription 23, Kensington View, West Derby, Lancashire, England Edward Mutch Head Married Male 40 1861 Skewer Maker Birkenhead, Cheshire, England Esther Mutch Wife Married Female 42 1859 - Liverpool, Lancashire, England Esther Mutch Daughter - Female 11 1890 - Liverpool, Lancashire, England Florence Mutch Daughter - Female 9 1892 - Liverpool, Lancashire, England Agnes Mutch Daughter - Female 7 1894 - Liverpool, Lancashire, England Edward Mutch Son - Male 5 1896 - Liverpool, Lancashire, England Grace Mutch Daughter - Female 2 1899 - Liverpool, Lancashire, England Henry Fenimore Boarder Single Male 55 1846 General Labourer Taunton, Oxfordshire, England Edward Lee Boarder Single Male 29 1872 General Labourer Liverpool, Lancashire, England
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Member Since: January 2003 Posts: 13,478 Send Message	rootgatherer	Report	16 May 2017 12:45
	Maybe the other witness? Back 1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription 125 Radcliffe St Liverpool, Everton, Lancashire, England Peter Reynolds Head Married Male Dock Turncock Water Dept Municipal 29 1882 Liverpool Marion Reynolds Wife Married Female - 26 1885 Liverpool Marion Reynolds Daughter - Female - 4 1907 Liverpool Agnes Reynolds Daughter - Female - 3 1908 Liverpool Peter Reynolds Son - Male - 1 1910 Liverpool James Harrison Father - In - Law Widower Male Foundry Labourer 52 1859 Resident Antrim Ireland James Harrison Brother - In - Law Single Male Dock Labourer 23 1888 Liverpool Helen Harrison Sister - In - Law Single Female - 14 1897 Liverpool
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Member Since: December 2009 Posts: 13,418 Send Message	Maddie	Report	16 May 2017 13:00
	i think this is jane Johanna Hawarth in the Liverpool, England, Catholic Baptisms, 1802-1906 View Liverpool, England, Catholic Baptisms, 1802-1906 Name: Johanna Hawarth Birth Date: 31 Jul 1901 Baptism Date: 10 Aug 1901 Parish: St Michael, Lancashire, England Father's name: Galielmi Laurenti Howarth Mother's name: Mariae Howarth alim Salbot ---------------- image says talbot matrina fuit ---- elizabeth howarth patrinus fuit ------ blank

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